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Called it. CDC is now recommending that all wastewater surveillance groups develop and implement protocols to specifically test for H5N1.

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"These results indicate that PB2 Q591R or D701N, but not the other substitutions tested here, act in a similar manner to E627K and specifically enable the viral polymerase to utilize human ANP32A or -B proteins as a cofactor."
link; https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/jvi.00213-23 or https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/jvi.00213-23 

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"First, an update on #H5N1 avian influenza. Last week, the United States reported a fourth human case of H5N1 following exposure to infected dairy cows. Cambodia also reported two cases in children who had contact with sick or dead chickens. For the moment, no human-to-human transmission has been reported, which is why WHO continues to assess the risk to the general public as low. However, our ability to assess and manage that risk is compromised by limited surveillance for influenza viruses in animals globally. Understanding how these viruses are spreading and changing in animals is essential for identifying any changes that might increase the risk of outbreaks in humans, or the potential for a pandemic"-

DJ, The WHO is "not a front running organization" it needs funding by governments...
Very likely there is a lot of mammal-to-mammal spread already in lots of places...(mice, rats...cows ???) 

So in my NON EXPERT view it is just a matter of time before we see H5N1 going H2H = Human to Human...

Increase of CoViD -decreasing immunity- does not help. The CoViD pandemic is NOT !!!! over ! It is even getting worse...

It is impossible to get even a basic idea of how widespread H5N1 is in "wild animals"...but lots of species can catch H5N1, most of them can spread it...and some species may not develop symptoms...

How bad H5N1 will be in humans is unclear...it may develop as a "bad flu"...However co-infections may result in worse outcomes. "Flu-Rona" -H5N1 and CoViD - on a large scale will be to much for most public health care...
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https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/55-symptomatic-poultry-farmworkers-possibly-infected-with-h5n1-in-colorado-3-already-confirmed-via-lab-testing or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/55-symptomatic-poultry-farmworkers-possibly-infected-with-h5n1-in-colorado-3-already-confirmed-via-lab-testing 

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For anyone following this: Colorado says they have tested 55 symptomatic workers for #H5N1 #birdflu in connection to this outbreak as of Friday. The results from 48 samples collected today will be tested this weekend.


DJ, A link; https://www.denver7.com/news/state-news/3-colorado-poultry-workers-identified-as-potential-bird-flu-cases-after-outbreak-at-commercial-egg-facility or https://www.denver7.com/news/state-news/3-colorado-poultry-workers-identified-as-potential-bird-flu-cases-after-outbreak-at-commercial-egg-facility 

With also Cambodia recent detection of (another clade) of H5N1 in children...how far are we from an early stage pandemic ? 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Human_cases or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Human_cases - good overview;

2003 China 1 case, Vietnam 3 cases of (Human) H5N1-all died-CFR (based on tested patients) was 100%...

2024 Australia 1 (imported) case, Cambodia 7, US also 7 reported,tested H5N1 human cases...Vietnam 1. Only 1 Cambodian died...(makes CFR 1 in 16 of this list...12,5%)

However Colorado now has 55 cases of poultry farm workers involved in culling infected poultry...All those 55 have symptoms...(eye, respitory-in general mild)...

In 2015 Egypt had 136 reported cases, 9 other cases (total 145) 42 cases/infected persons died...

In 2006 worldwide 115 cases reported (55 from Indonesia) 79 died (CFR 68,7%)

For 2024 the Australian child with H5N1 would have imported it from India. SE Asia has 8 cases...if indeed the US now has dozens of cases one may see "a global problem"...

However NOT all H5N1 types are the same...several subtypes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Timeline or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Timeline 

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932024_H5N1_outbreak or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932024_H5N1_outbreak 

DJ-CoViD "is opening doors" for more spread of H5N1...however CFR likely is "low" (just above "normal" flu ? ) -at least for now...

Risks are;
-The virus mutates into a more dangerous variant
-Flu-Rona co-infection resulting in more serious healthissues
-Healthcare overrun...even mild infections become problematic...

DJ-I am NOT any kind of expert-just trying to make some sense...
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Very important #H5N1 trial from #H5N1 is spread between cattle by both the #respiratory and #mammary route.

link;https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.07.12.603337v1 or https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.07.12.603337v1 


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Highly pathogenic avian influenza H5 detected in a southern elephant seal in Antarctica: the carcass was found on Robert Island, part of the South Shetland Islands. #vogelgriep

DJ, in lots of species H5N1 is spread by eating infected animal(products). H5N1 is widespread in birds...soon may reach Australia/New Zealand-then becomes a global problem. 

H5N1 is also in lots of mammals. Some of those mammals may die FROM it, others WITH it...a third group may spread the virus without any (major) symptoms themselves...

This week we will learn more on the Colorade-USA spread in (infected) poultry culling workers...It looks like they did not use masks/eyeprotection ? 
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https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/paho-public-health-risk-assessment-on.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/paho-public-health-risk-assessment-on.html ;

Yesterday PAHO (Pan American Health Organization), in conjunction with the WHO, released a public health risk assessment on the zoonotic spread of H5N1 in the Americas.  These types of assessments - while they can be useful - are only as good as the data used to make them. 

And unfortunately, surveillance and reporting continues to erode, both in the United States, and around the globe (see No News Is . . . Now Commonplace). 

Yesterday we learned that Oklahoma had become the 13th state to detect HPAI H5 in dairy cows, but this was based on samples collected last April, and only recently submitted to the USDA for testing. 

Testing of livestock remains largely voluntary (except for interstate transport of cattle), and no one really knows how widespread the virus is in cattle across the nation. 

Nearly every WHO DON or disease Situation Report contains diplomatic reminders to member nations of their `duty to reportthese types of cases under the IHR 2005 agreement, but compliance remains spotty at best. 

Just over 18 months ago, in Flying Blind In The Viral Stormwe looked at the increasing willingness of many countries to delay, downplay, or hide reports of emerging infectious disease events, and it is arguably even more pervasive today. 

Last week, the Director-General of WHO made another in a long list of appeals to nations to take the H5N1 threat seriously, and to immediately report any outbreak of zoonotic influenza.

Last week, the United States reported a fourth human case of H5N1 following exposure to infected dairy cows.

Cambodia also reported two cases in children who had contact with sick or dead chickens.

For the moment, no human-to-human transmission has been reported, which is why WHO continues to assess the risk to the general public as low. 

However, our ability to assess and manage that risk is compromised by limited surveillance for influenza viruses in animals globally.

Understanding how these viruses are spreading and changing in animals is essential for identifying any changes that might increase the risk of outbreaks in humans, or the potential for a pandemic.

  • WHO calls on all countries to strengthen influenza surveillance and reporting in animals and humans;
  • To share samples of influenza viruses with WHO Collaborating Centres;
  • To share genetic sequences of human and animal flu viruses with publicly accessible databases;
  • To provide protection for farm workers who may be exposed to infected animals;
  • To accelerate research on avian influenza; 
  • And to encourage closer cooperation between the animal and human health sectors. 

Despite the risks to public health, `don't test, don't tell' remains an attractive option for many countries, and industries.  `Bad news', if it is released at all, is often done so strategically or belatedly. 

It is against this backdrop of limited data that we get the following risk assessment from PAHO, which cites only `moderate confidence' in available information in making their determination. 

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The overall risk in the general population of this event for the Region of the Americas to human health is classified as “Low” with a level of confidence in the available information of “Moderate”, for the following reasons:

Epidemiological and virological factors: 

Current epidemiological data indicate localized occurrences of avian influenza A(H5N1) clade 2.3.4.4b in dairy cattle herds within the United States of America, with spillover into humans and other mammals in direct contact. Virologically, the virus remains predominantly bound to avian-type receptors, limiting its transmissibility to humans via respiratory droplets or fomites, as demonstrated by recent studies. A substantial component of the risk of spread throughout the Region of Americas has, and will continue to be, predominantly from wild birds however, after introduction in cattle, the continuous transmission between the different states in the United States has evidenced other mechanisms of transmission (e.g., movement of cattle). Even with no further change in the virus there are likely to be additional outbreaks in mammals, and sporadic cases reported in humans. The recent global risk, given the same parameters, has been considered to be low by the World Health Organization (WHO), but requiring vigilance and ongoing monitoring (1-3).

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The risk assessment of  “low” for the general population and low-to-moderate” for occupationally exposed individuals seems reasonable, at least based on currently available information. 

But, as the WHO warns: their ability to assess the risks is compromised by limited surveillance.

So while the risks are currently deemed to be `low', we can't afford to be lulled into complacency.  

DJ, I am NOT any kind of expert but two ways of spread may be missing;
-Humans can get H5N1 by drinking raw milk
-Cats, rats, mice...other mammals (then cattle) can spread H5N1 (both via droplets/aerosols (!!!) and via droppings (so contaminated surfaces). 

H5N1 is a ticking time bomb !
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DJ, Also from the FluDiary link in the last post;

Capacity for surveillance and response: 

The Region of the Americas benefits from robust pandemic preparedness initiatives led by Pan American Health Organization (PAHO), including the WHO Pandemic Influenza Preparedness (PIP) Framework and Preparedness and Resilience for Emerging Threats (PRET) initiative. PIP and PRET strengthens regional capacities for early detection, surveillance, vaccine deployment and response to zoonotic influenza outbreaks thereby mitigating the potential impact of localized influenza outbreaks and enhancing the region’s readiness to manage any potential spread (4).


 However, it is prudent for countries to enhance event-based surveillance mechanisms at the animal-human interface and continue to monitor influenza through its network of influenza-like illness (ILI) and severe acute respiratory infections (SARI) surveillance sites.


The available evidence supports a coordinated regional risk assessment of “low” for the general population and “low-to-moderate” for occupationally exposed individuals.

The rapid risk assessment will be reviewed should further epidemiological or virological information become available


Again-I am NOT any kind of expert-but H5N1 most likely also is a "STD" Sexually Transmitted Disease...

A basic problem is do you want to see the problem or ignore it for economic reasons ? 

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-zealand-reports-2640-new-covid-19-cases-and-30-deaths-while-flu-infections-are-now-starting-to-rise or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-zealand-reports-2640-new-covid-19-cases-and-30-deaths-while-flu-infections-are-now-starting-to-rise 

TMN also mentioned an increase of CoViD in both Colorado and the US...

Are we moving towards "Flu-Rona"? TMN-link https://www.esr.cri.nz/digital-library/respiratory-illness-dashboard/ or https://www.esr.cri.nz/digital-library/respiratory-illness-dashboard/ for New Zealand (winter in the south part of the globe !); H1 and H3 types of flu-last days H3 type of flu increasing.

DJ, Australia did see an-imported from India???-H5N1 case. Again H5N1 did NOT reach Australia/New Zealand but flu seems to be high this present winter in that region...

It may indicate H5 may be a growing risk for humans in the "global north". 

Another question has to be how bad H5N1 is...It may be a bit worse then "normal" flu types...So far however in the US most cases were mild. It-however-will further evolve...

Co-infections very likely mean more severe disease. 
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🔥BREAKING📷: FIVE FARMWORKERS reported positive for bird flu at a Colorado farm. Gov @jaredpolis has declared a disaster emergency & experts warn of "turning point', call for urgent action... #pandemic #BirdFlu #influenza https://shorturl.at/wguQ3

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cdc-statement-on-4-confirmed-hpai-h5.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cdc-statement-on-4-confirmed-hpai-h5.html ;

The CDC has posted the following statement - which confirms much of what we learned earlier today from the State of Colorado - on the (now 4) confirmed human H5 infections among poultry workers from Weld County. 

A fifth presumed positive case will likely be confirmed later today. 

There are still no details provided on whether the workers wore PPEs, or have received antivirals, both of which should be standard procedure. 

CDC Confirms Human Cases of H5 Bird Flu Among Colorado Poultry Workers

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For Immediate Release: July 14, 2024
Contact: Media Relations
(404) 639-3286


July 14, 2024 – Four human cases of highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) A(H5) (“H5 bird flu”) virus infection in the state of Colorado have been confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). This includes all three presumptive-positive cases reported by that state on Friday, July 12 and a fourth specimen that was later found to be presumptive-positive by the state on Friday. CDC also is aware of an additional (fifth) presumptive-positive case in Colorado that will be confirmed at CDC once the specimen arrives. All cases were in farm workers who were involved in the depopulation of poultry at a poultry facility experiencing an outbreak of HPAI H5N1 virus. 

A CDC team is on the ground in Colorado, supporting their assessment of the poultry outbreak and associated human cases. Given current information, CDC believes that the risk to the public from this outbreak remains low. These cases again underscore the risk of exposure to infected animals. There are no unexpected increases in flu activity otherwise in Colorado, or in other states affected by H5 bird flu outbreaks in cows and poultry.

DJ, In fact the CDC is still downplaying the risks of H5N1 for humans...

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-4-human-cases-probably-3-more?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-4-human-cases-probably-3-more?view=stream latest;

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Bird flu snapshot: As the number of infected dairy herds mount, so too does pessimism about driving H5N1 out of cows​There are more human cases of H5N1 bird flu infection, and another state has joined the list of those with infected dairy cow herds.

Colorado announced Sunday night that five workers involved in the culling of chickens at an H5N1-infected poultry operation had tested positive for the virus. Four of the cases have been confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; the fifth is currently deemed “presumptive” positive because the individual’s test sample hasn’t yet reached the CDC. All five had mild symptoms — conjunctivitis and minor respiratory complaints. None required hospitalization.

Additional testing by the CDC is needed to fully characterize the viruses responsible for these infections. But assuming they are the same as the one circulating in cows (which has occasionally spilled over into poultry operations), these cases will bring to nine the number of human infections recorded since this outbreak was first detected in late March. The CDC, at the request of the state, is helping investigate the new human cases in Colorado.

And on Friday came news that another state had discovered a bird flu-infected herd. Oklahoma announced that a sample collected in April that was only recently tested was found to be positive. No explanation was given for the remarkably slow turnaround in the testing of the sample. Oklahoma called itself the 13th state to find H5N1 in dairy cattle, but in reality its place on the list should be lower, as several states only discovered positive herds in May and June.
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These new human and animal developments support a blunt risk assessment from the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, which gave voice to a rising sense of pessimism about the prospects for containing the H5N1 outbreak in cows in a recent report.

“There are no clear signs that the outbreak is or is about to come under control,” the 26-page document on the public health risks associated with the ongoing spread states plainly.

DJ, With lots of other mammals likely infected with H5N1, a likely link with-increasing-CoViD cases the outlook-in my non expert view-is BAD !!!

It should be a high priority to get H5N1 in humans under control ! For now-JUST FOR NOW !!!!!!!!-symptoms might be mild...But it is developing...A mix with other diseases is very unwelcome...
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https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/michigan/988628-michigan-avian-flu-in-mammals-and-livestock-2024?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/michigan/988628-michigan-avian-flu-in-mammals-and-livestock-2024?view=stream ;

DJ, Three feral cats and a racoon found dead near an infected Michigan farm testing positive for H5N1....

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cmaj-practice-five-things-to-know-about.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cmaj-practice-five-things-to-know-about.html ; (from Canada)

While human infection with HPAI H5N1 is still believed to be rare, it is plausible that some (likely small)  number of cases have gone unrecognized here in the United States - and in other countries - which has led to calls for clinicians to adopt a heightened index of suspicion for avian flu (see ECDC Call For Increased Vigilance Against Avian Flu).
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1. Highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) H5N1 virus is spread globally by wild birds

The circulating H5N1 clade (2.3.4.4b) has caused outbreaks on poultry farms and among backyard flocks, and die-offs among wild birds. Infections in mammals, including cattle and humans, triggered by viral spillover from birds highlights the potential for a pandemic, but the mechanisms of transmission are not fully known.1,2 Evidence exists of viral reassortment and mammalian adaptation,3 resulting in increased risk of transmission and disease among mammals.

2. As of June 12, 2024, no reported human cases of H5N1 have been acquired in Canada

Nearly 900 human cases of H5N1 have been reported globally since 2003, with a case fatality rate of 52%.4 The clinical presentation may vary from mild to severe influenza. Dairy workers in the United States who recently became infected presented with hemorrhagic conjunctivitis.2

3. Clinicians should ask about animal exposures in people presenting with influenza-like illness, conjunctivitis or, less commonly, meningoencephalitis

People with substantial exposure to livestock or wildlife may be at risk for infection. Currently, the risk to the general population is low, with no evidence of sustained person-to-person transmission.3

4. Conventional laboratory-based testing may identify H5N1 HPAI as influenza A virus

Confirmatory testing is conducted at a provincial or national reference laboratory for suspected infections, which underscores the need to identify patients with exposure histories as soon as possible.4 Nasopharyngeal and conjunctival swabs, if the patient has eye symptoms, should be collected, and public health should be informed of cases under investigation.

5. No vaccine currently exists for human use in Canada

Oseltamivir is the recommended antiviral for treatment and prophylaxis of HPAI infection. Oseltamivir should be administered as soon as possible to a person with a suspected infection, or after close contact with a confirmed case of HPAI.

DJ, also masks/eyeprotection do work !!!
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We’ve progressed from counting infected cows to now counting infected people. “I have never felt that we were as close as we are now to an outbreak of avian influenza among humans.” We need to broaden testing practices now, not later. Waiting for more clusters of infection to appear is an open invitation to mass spread. The handful of cases that have been documented are potentially the tip of the iceberg. Bird flu outbreak at Colorado farm as 5 workers reported positive: Experts warn of ‘turning point,’ call for urgent action https://fortune.com/2024/07/15/bird-flu-outbreak-colorado-farm-5-workers-test-positive-experts-warn-turning-point-urgent-action-health/?abc123

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Rick is not wrong here. This is unfolding more slowly than Covid did, but in the exact same manor. Lack of testing and visibility into the depth of spread, media and Congress focused on other issues so no coverage, and a feeling that we’re waiting for a dam to break…🤦🏽‍♂️

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Farm workers & their families are on frontline of protecting us all from the next pandemic. We owe them every level of protection we have to keep them safe & informed of risk they take every day just to put milk & eggs on our table. #H5N1 is a deadly virus, BSL3+ select agent. We cannot continue to put people in harms way w/o full protection & healthcare coverage & compensation. It’s unethical & inhumane.

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US: Experts warn of ‘turning point’ for H5N1 outbreak, call for urgent action Total bird flu cases in humans more than double in one day after five Colorado infections reported.
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US: Colorado H5N1 outbreak in humans says: Symptoms include "coughing and sore throat" First U.S. poultry worker cases since 2022 Sequencing attempts underway

DJ, we are now passed case-case...first "cluster" so another cluster and then "boom"?
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Thanks So people working on poultry farm w/ huge #H5N1 outbreak, were infected w/ virus containing clear marker for virus from dairy cows. Either workers also work on dairy farm & got infected there, or massive 1.8M poultry outbreak likely caused by virus from dairy cows, then infected humans. H/t to fast work by in sharing uncloaked data w/ . More sequence data from could help find missing links.

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#H5N1 #AvianFlu updates Quick Analysis of the sequence of H5N1 (clade 2.3.4.4b) #Colorado human case uploaded to PB2 mutations: T58A, V109I, V139I, E249G, E362G, K389R, D441N, V478I, V495I, M631L*, V649I, M676A * Dairy cattle outbreak signature
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🚨Breaking news. 1st sequence of the #H5N1 viruses from Colorado human cases reported over weekend posted in by (in only 3 days is very fast). See link below for trees. Interestingly, the virus appears to cluster w/ viruses from dairy cows & cow milk and NOT with previous wild bird or poultry viruses. might be able to do a detailed analysis. This is concerning. It would be helpful if would share virus sequences from birds on the same farm & nearby. Huge thanks to for rapid work & data sharing. Hoping the other 4 virus data are shared soon, too. https://gisaid.org/resources/gisaid-in-the-news/highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-outbreak-in-the-united-states/

DJ; https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/357195/land-grant-universities-greenwashing-climate-methane-factory-farming or https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/357195/land-grant-universities-greenwashing-climate-methane-factory-farming ;

Americans are eating more meat than ever, but livestock giants still see plenty of room to grow. As pressure mounts for meat producers to improve their treatment of animals and environmental footprints, they’re turning to a tried-and-true strategy — used in the past by the tobacco and oil industries — to expand their markets and shore up the public’s trust in their products: funding favorable research from university scientists.
So -again- if profits/money is all that matters-politics/science for sale-we move from one disaster to the other...
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