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Topic: H5N1/flu (other types)
Posted By: Dutch Josh
Subject: H5N1/flu (other types)
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2024 at 12:29am
DJ, CoViD very likely killing hundreds of people worldwide each day...Mpox -for now- most a problem in Africa...

H5N1 however is "global" -both in birds and mammals...

In the US H5N1 keeps spreading in cows and cats...Due to lack of testing (and symptoms ?) so far human H5N1 cases -in the US- seems limited...

One of the reasons why H5N1 keeps spreading in the US is trade in infected cows is still ongoing...

"Poultry litter" to feed cows is NOT stopped...In the US cows ear bird "droppings"...birds eat cow "droppings"...so H5N1 may be "pumped around"....

A level of insanity I can not comprehend...The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) is NOT stopping H5N1 spread in the US...

We live in the age of insanity !



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2024 at 2:24am

The US supreme court has overturned Chevron,now any agency’s regulations or guidance (cdc,usda) can be challenged in court and negated by a judge.Say a mechanic of an airline says three bolts instead the  standard five would hold an engine on a wing it, they can challenge that in court and and possibly win. With this country so divided, this can wreak havoc in all of American life. .



Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2024 at 2:33am
Hi Pixie, 

Implications of legal/ "political" fight on pandemic (response) indeed looks terrible...

One way of looking at it-cynical- is "ignoring the risks" may "deal with those that ignore the risk"...

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So H5 is showing up in wastewater in CA. Is it from cows or people? San Francisco and Palo Alto don't strike me as cattle country.

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H5N1 bird flu virus detected at 3 Bay Area wastewater sites in the past 2 weeks: SF x 2, Richmond, Palo Alto. CA appears to be the only state reporting H5N1 in wastewater that has yet to report H5N1 infected cattle. "Urban origin" is concerning. May be from wild poultry markets.

DJ-the "good news" is the US at least has some level of H5N1 testing...Most countries may do even less...Mexico does import (infected ?) cattle from the US...has a higher consumption of "raw milk"...

"no testing = no cases" has its limits...


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2024 at 2:44am
They have found it in waste water around milk processing plants and pork processing plants.Both release thousands of gallons of water into the system,nowhere near an infected dairy farm. Running out the door now,I’ll link later.


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2024 at 2:02am
Feeding raw milk-products to pigs may be spreading H5N1 into pigs... https://www.farmanddairy.com/columns/feeding-weaning-pigs-waste-milk-lowers-feed-costs-improves-efficiency/254040.html - https://www.farmanddairy.com/columns/feeding-weaning-pigs-waste-milk-lowers-feed-costs-improves-efficiency/254040.html or https://www.farmanddairy.com/columns/feeding-weaning-pigs-waste-milk-lowers-feed-costs-improves-efficiency/254040.html ;

The Northeast region of the United States has more than 15,000 working dairies, each producing non-saleable waste milk.

Waste milk contains excess colostrum, transition milk, mastitic milk, or antibiotics. Many dairy producers feed waste milk to dairy calves, however, sometimes the amount of waste milk is in excess of what can be used resulting in it being disposed. Feeding waste milk to other species provides a viable option for dairy producers to use the product rather than waste it.

Option for pigs

For a pig, weaning is thought to be the most stressful time of its life, as it transitions from a completely liquid diet to a completely dry diet. Waste milk may serve to ease this transition to dry feed while keeping the pig hydrated.

DJ, If no one is stopping this practice it may continue...H5N1 in pigs may mix with other types of flu...

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/colorado-reports-male-infected-with-h5n1-from-dairy-cattle-fourth-case-in-united-states-more-cases-expected - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/colorado-reports-male-infected-with-h5n1-from-dairy-cattle-fourth-case-in-united-states-more-cases-expected or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/colorado-reports-male-infected-with-h5n1-from-dairy-cattle-fourth-case-in-united-states-more-cases-expected ...

There are less than 2 million H5-flu tests available in the US...unclear who decides who gets tested and who will pay for that testing...


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Notice no mention of when the case occurred, how long the
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The adult male had mild symptoms, reporting only conjunctivitis (pink eye). 
He reported his symptoms to state health officials, who tested him for influenza at the State Public Health Laboratory. 
Specimens forwarded to CDC for additional testing were positive for avian flu. CDPHE gave the individual antiviral treatment with oseltamivir in accordance with CDC guidance. 
He has recovered. 
This case is an employee at a dairy farm in northeast Colorado who had direct exposure to dairy cattle infected with avian flu. 
To protect patient privacy, additional details are not being provided.
DJ...they are NOT protecting privacy but they are hiding a timeline...


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2024 at 11:52pm
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Three key issues with https://x.com/hashtag/H5N1?src=hashtag_click - #H5N1 1) mild disease means likely under detection. Severe disease shows up to hospitals; mild not so much 2) ongoing spillovers mean continuous chance for mutations/ human adaptation 3) human flu season gets closer by the day; human or animal w/ co-infection means risk of viral reassortment —> higher pandemic risk

DJ https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/flutrackers-high-pathogenic-h5n1-h1n08-h5n8-h5n6-h5n3-tracking-outbreaks-spread/749462-flutrackers-2016-global-h5n1-human-cases-list?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/flutrackers-high-pathogenic-h5n1-h1n08-h5n8-h5n6-h5n3-tracking-outbreaks-spread/749462-flutrackers-2016-global-h5n1-human-cases-list?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/flutrackers-high-pathogenic-h5n1-h1n08-h5n8-h5n6-h5n3-tracking-outbreaks-spread/749462-flutrackers-2016-global-h5n1-human-cases-list?view=stream latest;

In 2024 different H5N1 clades in humans;

-Cambodia 6 human cases
-US had 4
-Australia 1
Vietnam 1

So the first half-more or less-of 2024 did see 12 H5N1 human cases in 4 countries...

In 2023-all of it !- we had 10 human cases;

-Cambodia 6
-UK 2
-China 1
-Chile 1

Since H5N1 OFTEN !!!! is mild it may be very easy to miss ! The Case Fatality Ratio is not very realistic...The "killing potential" however may be very serious !

It is the background that matters ! H1N1-"Spanish Flu" had World War One -chaos-as a background...CoViD-immunity destruction-may give H5N1 (mixed with lots of other diseases and "politics gone stupid") all the room it needs !




Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2024 at 7:34am
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Cambodia: Two Takeo boys confirmed infected by H5N1 bird flu - two boys, ages 3 & 5 (3yo may already have been announced yesterday) - 29 others are still waiting for test results - 600 chickens culled (not clear how connected)

link to https://www.khmertimeskh.com/501519079/two-takeo-boys-confirmed-infected-by-h5n1-bird-flu/ - https://www.khmertimeskh.com/501519079/two-takeo-boys-confirmed-infected-by-h5n1-bird-flu/ or https://www.khmertimeskh.com/501519079/two-takeo-boys-confirmed-infected-by-h5n1-bird-flu/ 

(May refer to case 6 & 7 this year from Cambodia...). 

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/cambodia/cambodia-h5n1-tracking/984877-cambodia-reports-7-human-cases-of-bird-flu-h5n1-in-2024-july-8th-2024?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/cambodia/cambodia-h5n1-tracking/984877-cambodia-reports-7-human-cases-of-bird-flu-h5n1-in-2024-july-8th-2024?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/cambodia/cambodia-h5n1-tracking/984877-cambodia-reports-7-human-cases-of-bird-flu-h5n1-in-2024-july-8th-2024?view=stream latest;

Cambodia detects another H5N1 bird flu case in human
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The Cambodian Ministry of Health on July 8 announced that another human case of H5N1 bird flu has been confirmed on a 5-year-old girl in Takeo province, bringing the number of the infections to seven since the start of 2024.

According to the ministry, the patient has a fever and is the cousin of a 3-year-old boy, who tested positive for the virus on July 5. The two children live in the same house in Kiri Vong district's Pou village.
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Among the seven human cases of H5N1 bird flu so far this year were six children, one of whom died, and an adult. All patients reportedly had a history of recent exposure to sick or dead poultry prior to their illness.
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From 2003 to date, there were 69 cases of human infection with H5N1 influenza, including 42 deaths in the Southeast Asian country, according to the ministry./.

DJ, https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/national-international-government-ngo-preparation-response/eu-statements-european-centre-of-diseases-control-and-prevention-ecdc-updates-statements-news/993242-ecdc-avian-flu-increased-vigilance-recommended-july-8-2024 - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/national-international-government-ngo-preparation-response/eu-statements-european-centre-of-diseases-control-and-prevention-ecdc-updates-statements-news/993242-ecdc-avian-flu-increased-vigilance-recommended-july-8-2024 or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/national-international-government-ngo-preparation-response/eu-statements-european-centre-of-diseases-control-and-prevention-ecdc-updates-statements-news/993242-ecdc-avian-flu-increased-vigilance-recommended-july-8-2024 ;

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8 Jul 2024

Avian influenza viruses continue to circulate, albeit at low levels, among wild bird populations across the European Union and the European Economic Area (EU/EEA).

In the United States, transmission of highly pathogenic avian influenza HPAI A(H5N1) viruses has recently been observed in dairy cattle and four cases of human avian influenza have been reported among farm workers exposed to cattle since April 2024.

Whilst transmission from infected animals to humans remains a rare event, avian influenza viruses can spill over to wild, farm and domestic animals, leading to infection and outbreaks in poultry, and occasionally in mammals.
As we closely monitor the current situation on avian influenza, both in the EU and globally, there is reason for increased awareness but not for increased concern. ECDC remains committed in our support of the actions taken by national authorities in EU Member States. This threat to human health should not be underestimated, and it is important that we stay alert and proactive in our joint collaboration.” says Pamela Rendi-Wagner, Director of ECDC.



While currently no infection with the avian influenza A(H5N1) virus in humans has been recorded in the EU/EEA, ECDC advises on the importance of continuing to raise awareness among healthcare professionals, both at primary and secondary care level, regarding the possibility of encountering human cases of infection.

As part of its ongoing commitment to public health, ECDC is implementing a comprehensive strategy to support the early detection and containment of potential human cases in the EU.


simply means the ECDC thinks there could be -possible- limited spread of H5N1 in humans in Europe. (There is no point in "extra vigilance" if they did think 0% of human cases...). 

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/993248-swine-industry-responds-to-h5n1-outbreak-in-dairy-cattle - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/993248-swine-industry-responds-to-h5n1-outbreak-in-dairy-cattle or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/993248-swine-industry-responds-to-h5n1-outbreak-in-dairy-cattle ;

“The swine industry already has extensive knowledge and experience when it comes to flu management and monitoring. We have multiple programs that can be quickly deployed should H5N1 be detected in swine,” Rotolo observed. Existing programs combined with intentional preparedness efforts equip the pork industry to deploy an effective response to H5N1 in the U.S. swine herd if needed.

DJ, A problem could be in H5N1 as a co-infection in swine/pigs...


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link https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07766-6 - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07766-6 or https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07766-6 


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2024 at 7:56am
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/ecdc-call-for-increased-vigilance.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/ecdc-call-for-increased-vigilance.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/ecdc-call-for-increased-vigilance.html ; 

Not quite 3 weeks ago the ECDC issued a guidance document (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/ecdc-enhanced-influenza-surveillance-to.html - Enhanced Influenza Surveillance to Detect Avian Influenza Virus Infections in the EU/EEA During the Inter-Seasonal Period ) urging member nations to step up surveillance for potential human avian flu infections over the summer. 

As was reported in last year's analysis from the UKHSA (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/ttd-time-to-detect-revisited.html - TTD (Time to Detect): Revisited ), there could be dozens of undetected cases of human H5N1 infection before public health would likely detect them, perhaps even hundreds. 

While the ECDC may only present  https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/ECDCStrategy-2024update2_0.pdf - non-binding recommendations  to member states, yesterday they reiterated the need for increased vigilance in the months ahead. 

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In recently updated surveillance guidance for the summer period, ECDC recommends lowering the threshold for testing for avian influenza in humans, including using a risk-based approach for exposed asymptomatic individuals. We also recommend testing for influenza all cases hospitalised due to symptoms compatible with avian influenza and to further investigate those influenza A-positive samples that are negative for seasonal influenza virus. Biosafety and personal protective measures in place at occupational and recreational sites with an increased risk of avian influenza remain crucial to minimise the risk of spillover events to humans. These protective measures should be complied with to the greatest extent possible.

Furthermore, ECDC has strengthened its support to EU countries on laboratory activities on zoonotic avian influenza, including support on laboratory preparedness to detect and characterise zoonotic influenza viruses. ECDC also offers EU centralised testing and further characterisation for human specimens known or suspected to contain an avian influenza virus.
DJ, No doubt possible other types of flu (H5, H7 maybe H9 ???) could be in the back of the ECDC mind...? 

In addition to being on the alert for avian flu, clinicians are also being asked to have a high index of suspicion for Mpox cases (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/coca-call-today-mpox-clinical.html - COCA Call : Mpox - Clinical Management & Outbreaks ), and suspected  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/cdc-fluview-wk-24-2-new-novel-swine-flu.html - swine-variant infections

Tasks that are only made tougher due to a recent spike in COVID cases across the country. 

Stay tuned. It could be a bumpy summer. 


DJ, And one disease may increase chances (decreasing immunity) for catching another disease...Flu and CoViD both may become harder to detect via testing...

I do think there must be cases of "Flu-Rona" Flu and CoVid....maybe testing is missing it ? 


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2024 at 2:53am

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It's like H5N1 is throwing out as many red flags as it can, trying its best to warn us. We may be sleepwalking into another pandemic, the consequences of which are unpredictable. Study paywalled unfortunately. You should be following
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DJ, like with Mpox, CoViD also reporting/testing for H5N1 is the major problem..."bad for tourism"..."saving the economy"...

Making the same mistakes all over again !

Maybe the biggest two risks;
-Spread of H5N1 we do NOT see (a.o. in mice, rats etc, also wild animals or regions more remote)
-Mixing with other (flu)types...

Lots of symptoms may be seen in lots of other diseases..so testing positive for one may stop testing for other diseases...The virus feels "more welcome" in hosts with less immunity...


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2024 at 10:27pm
DJ-A major problem with H5N1 is that it is already very widespread around the globe both in birds and mammals...

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More bad news on https://x.com/hashtag/H5N1?src=hashtag_click - #H5N1 https://x.com/hashtag/Q591R?src=hashtag_click - #Q591R on PB2 has established itself in a lineage in South Dakota beginning in a May sample. Up to 13 descendants, all from cattle in South Dakota. Some reading suggests Q591R almost as bad as dreaded E627K: https://t.co/TR57vuMqRn - Seems bad. Experts?

https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4249088/ - https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4249088/ or https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4249088/ ;

Mutations to PB2 and NP Proteins of an Avian Influenza Virus Combine To Confer Efficient Growth in Primary Human Respiratory Cells

Our data show that as few as three mutations, in the PB2 and NP proteins, support robust growth of a low-pathogenic, H1N1 duck isolate in primary human respiratory cells.
DJ A 2014 study...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3753988/ - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3753988/ or https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3753988/ ;

The Effect of the PB2 Mutation 627K on Highly Pathogenic H5N1 Avian Influenza Virus Is Dependent on the Virus Lineage

DJ, H5N1 is moving towards better reproduction in mammals-that is what I (a totally NON-expert !)  make of it...

We are not doing much to stop H5N1...(flu)vaccines may be of limited use...Masks/eyeprotection do offer protection...but when H5N1 starts spreading from mammal to mammal it may become hard to get people to use them...

DJ-Underlying main factor in increase of pandemics is climate collapse..."Politics" kick that can down many roads for decades...Real indications-using 1700-1750 as pre-industrial baseline suggest temperature did increase 2,75C...IPCC still promoting 1,5-2C as a possible limit...

https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-predicament-of-climate-scientists-on-the-road-to-a-super-tropical-earth.html - https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-predicament-of-climate-scientists-on-the-road-to-a-super-tropical-earth.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-predicament-of-climate-scientists-on-the-road-to-a-super-tropical-earth.html 

Pandemics-including H5N1- are parts of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction 


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2024 at 11:58pm
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Called it. CDC is now recommending that all wastewater surveillance groups develop and implement protocols to specifically test for H5N1.

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DJ, The WHO is "not a front running organization" it needs funding by governments...
Very likely there is a lot of mammal-to-mammal spread already in lots of places...(mice, rats...cows ???) 

So in my NON EXPERT view it is just a matter of time before we see H5N1 going H2H = Human to Human...

Increase of CoViD -decreasing immunity- does not help. The CoViD pandemic is NOT !!!! over ! It is even getting worse...

It is impossible to get even a basic idea of how widespread H5N1 is in "wild animals"...but lots of species can catch H5N1, most of them can spread it...and some species may not develop symptoms...

How bad H5N1 will be in humans is unclear...it may develop as a "bad flu"...However co-infections may result in worse outcomes. "Flu-Rona" -H5N1 and CoViD - on a large scale will be to much for most public health care...


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2024 at 12:55pm
https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/55-symptomatic-poultry-farmworkers-possibly-infected-with-h5n1-in-colorado-3-already-confirmed-via-lab-testing - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/55-symptomatic-poultry-farmworkers-possibly-infected-with-h5n1-in-colorado-3-already-confirmed-via-lab-testing or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/55-symptomatic-poultry-farmworkers-possibly-infected-with-h5n1-in-colorado-3-already-confirmed-via-lab-testing 

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For anyone following this: Colorado says they have tested 55 symptomatic workers for https://x.com/hashtag/H5N1?src=hashtag_click - #H5N1 https://x.com/hashtag/birdflu?src=hashtag_click - #birdflu in connection to this outbreak as of Friday. The results from 48 samples collected today will be tested this weekend.


DJ, A link; https://www.denver7.com/news/state-news/3-colorado-poultry-workers-identified-as-potential-bird-flu-cases-after-outbreak-at-commercial-egg-facility - https://www.denver7.com/news/state-news/3-colorado-poultry-workers-identified-as-potential-bird-flu-cases-after-outbreak-at-commercial-egg-facility or https://www.denver7.com/news/state-news/3-colorado-poultry-workers-identified-as-potential-bird-flu-cases-after-outbreak-at-commercial-egg-facility 

With also Cambodia recent detection of (another clade) of H5N1 in children...how far are we from an early stage pandemic ? 


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2024 at 10:11pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Human_cases - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Human_cases or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Human_cases - good overview;

2003 China 1 case, Vietnam 3 cases of (Human) H5N1-all died-CFR (based on tested patients) was 100%...

2024 Australia 1 (imported) case, Cambodia 7, US also 7 reported,tested H5N1 human cases...Vietnam 1. Only 1 Cambodian died...(makes CFR 1 in 16 of this list...12,5%)

However Colorado now has 55 cases of poultry farm workers involved in culling infected poultry...All those 55 have symptoms...(eye, respitory-in general mild)...

In 2015 Egypt had 136 reported cases, 9 other cases (total 145) 42 cases/infected persons died...

In 2006 worldwide 115 cases reported (55 from Indonesia) 79 died (CFR 68,7%)

For 2024 the Australian child with H5N1 would have imported it from India. SE Asia has 8 cases...if indeed the US now has dozens of cases one may see "a global problem"...

However NOT all H5N1 types are the same...several subtypes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Timeline - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Timeline or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Timeline 

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932024_H5N1_outbreak - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932024_H5N1_outbreak or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932024_H5N1_outbreak 

DJ-CoViD "is opening doors" for more spread of H5N1...however CFR likely is "low" (just above "normal" flu ? ) -at least for now...

Risks are;
-The virus mutates into a more dangerous variant
-Flu-Rona co-infection resulting in more serious healthissues
-Healthcare overrun...even mild infections become problematic...

DJ-I am NOT any kind of expert-just trying to make some sense...


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2024 at 11:23pm
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link; https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.07.12.603337v1 - https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.07.12.603337v1 or https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.07.12.603337v1 


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Highly pathogenic avian influenza H5 detected in a southern elephant seal in Antarctica: the carcass was found on Robert Island, part of the South Shetland Islands. https://x.com/hashtag/vogelgriep?src=hashtag_click - #vogelgriep

DJ, in lots of species H5N1 is spread by eating infected animal(products). H5N1 is widespread in birds...soon may reach Australia/New Zealand-then becomes a global problem. 

H5N1 is also in lots of mammals. Some of those mammals may die FROM it, others WITH it...a third group may spread the virus without any (major) symptoms themselves...

This week we will learn more on the Colorade-USA spread in (infected) poultry culling workers...It looks like they did not use masks/eyeprotection ? 


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2024 at 11:40pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/paho-public-health-risk-assessment-on.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/paho-public-health-risk-assessment-on.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/paho-public-health-risk-assessment-on.html ;

Yesterday  https://www.paho.org/ - PAHO  (Pan American Health Organization), in conjunction with the WHO, released a public health risk assessment on the zoonotic spread of H5N1 in the Americas.  These types of assessments - while they can be useful - are only as good as the data used to make them. 

And unfortunately, surveillance and reporting continues to erode, both in the United States, and around the globe (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/08/no-news-is-now-commonplace.html - No News Is . . . Now Commonplace ). 

Yesterday we learned that Oklahoma  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/oklahoma-board-of-animal-health-hpai-h5.html - had become the 13th state to detect HPAI H5 in dairy cows , but this was based on samples collected last April, and only recently submitted to the USDA for testing. 

Testing of livestock remains largely voluntary (except for interstate transport of cattle), and no one really knows how widespread the virus is in cattle across the nation. 

Nearly every  https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news - WHO DON  or disease Situation Report contains diplomatic reminders to member nations of their `duty to reportthese types of cases under the IHR 2005 agreement, but compliance remains spotty at best. 

Just over 18 months ago, in https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2022/12/flying-blind-in-viral-storm.html -  Flying Blind In The Viral Storm we looked at the increasing willingness of many countries to delay, downplay, or hide reports of emerging infectious disease events, and it is arguably even more pervasive today. 

Last week, the  https://www.who.int/news-room/speeches/item/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing---10-july-2024 - Director-General of WHO  made another in a long list of appeals to nations to take the H5N1 threat seriously, and to immediately report any outbreak of zoonotic influenza.

Last week, the United States reported a fourth human case of H5N1 following exposure to infected dairy cows.

Cambodia also reported two cases in children who had contact with sick or dead chickens.

For the moment, no human-to-human transmission has been reported, which is why WHO continues to assess the risk to the general public as low. 

However, our ability to assess and manage that risk is compromised by limited surveillance for influenza viruses in animals globally.

Understanding how these viruses are spreading and changing in animals is essential for identifying any changes that might increase the risk of outbreaks in humans, or the potential for a pandemic.

  • WHO calls on all countries to strengthen influenza surveillance and reporting in animals and humans;
  • To share samples of influenza viruses with WHO Collaborating Centres;
  • To share genetic sequences of human and animal flu viruses with publicly accessible databases;
  • To provide protection for farm workers who may be exposed to infected animals;
  • To accelerate research on avian influenza; 
  • And to encourage closer cooperation between the animal and human health sectors. 

Despite the risks to public health, `don't test, don't tell' remains an attractive option for many countries, and industries.  `Bad news', if it is released at all, is often done so strategically or belatedly. 

It is against this backdrop of limited data that we get the following risk assessment from PAHO, which cites only `moderate confidence' in available information in making their determination. 

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The overall risk in the general population of this event for the Region of the Americas to human health is classified as “Low” with a level of confidence in the available information of “Moderate”, for the following reasons:

Epidemiological and virological factors: 

Current epidemiological data indicate localized occurrences of avian influenza A(H5N1) clade 2.3.4.4b in dairy cattle herds within the United States of America, with spillover into humans and other mammals in direct contact. Virologically, the virus remains predominantly bound to avian-type receptors, limiting its transmissibility to humans via respiratory droplets or fomites, as demonstrated by recent studies. A substantial component of the risk of spread throughout the Region of Americas has, and will continue to be, predominantly from wild birds however, after introduction in cattle, the continuous transmission between the different states in the United States has evidenced other mechanisms of transmission (e.g., movement of cattle). Even with no further change in the virus there are likely to be additional outbreaks in mammals, and sporadic cases reported in humans. The recent global risk, given the same parameters, has been considered to be low by the World Health Organization (WHO), but requiring vigilance and ongoing monitoring (1-3).

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The risk assessment of  “low” for the general population and low-to-moderate” for occupationally exposed individuals seems reasonable, at least based on currently available information. 

But, as the  https://www.who.int/news-room/speeches/item/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing---10-july-2024 - WHO warns : their ability to assess the risks is compromised by limited surveillance.

So while the risks are currently deemed to be `low', we can't afford to be lulled into complacency.  

DJ, I am NOT any kind of expert but two ways of spread may be missing;
-Humans can get H5N1 by drinking raw milk
-Cats, rats, mice...other mammals (then cattle) can spread H5N1 (both via droplets/aerosols (!!!) and via droppings (so contaminated surfaces). 

H5N1 is a ticking time bomb !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2024 at 12:54am
DJ, Also from the FluDiary link in the last post;

Capacity for surveillance and response: 

The Region of the Americas benefits from robust pandemic preparedness initiatives led by Pan American Health Organization (PAHO), including the WHO Pandemic Influenza Preparedness (PIP) Framework and Preparedness and Resilience for Emerging Threats (PRET) initiative. PIP and PRET strengthens regional capacities for early detection, surveillance, vaccine deployment and response to zoonotic influenza outbreaks thereby mitigating the potential impact of localized influenza outbreaks and enhancing the region’s readiness to manage any potential spread (4).


 However, it is prudent for countries to enhance event-based surveillance mechanisms at the animal-human interface and continue to monitor influenza through its network of influenza-like illness (ILI) and severe acute respiratory infections (SARI) surveillance sites.


The available evidence supports a coordinated regional risk assessment of “low” for the general population and “low-to-moderate” for occupationally exposed individuals.

The rapid risk assessment will be reviewed should further epidemiological or virological information become available


Again-I am NOT any kind of expert-but H5N1 most likely also is a "STD" Sexually Transmitted Disease...

A basic problem is do you want to see the problem or ignore it for economic reasons ? 

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-zealand-reports-2640-new-covid-19-cases-and-30-deaths-while-flu-infections-are-now-starting-to-rise - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-zealand-reports-2640-new-covid-19-cases-and-30-deaths-while-flu-infections-are-now-starting-to-rise or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-zealand-reports-2640-new-covid-19-cases-and-30-deaths-while-flu-infections-are-now-starting-to-rise 

TMN also mentioned an increase of CoViD in both Colorado and the US...

Are we moving towards "Flu-Rona"? TMN-link https://www.esr.cri.nz/digital-library/respiratory-illness-dashboard/ - https://www.esr.cri.nz/digital-library/respiratory-illness-dashboard/ or https://www.esr.cri.nz/digital-library/respiratory-illness-dashboard/ for New Zealand (winter in the south part of the globe !); H1 and H3 types of flu-last days H3 type of flu increasing.

DJ, Australia did see an-imported from India???-H5N1 case. Again H5N1 did NOT reach Australia/New Zealand but flu seems to be high this present winter in that region...

It may indicate H5 may be a growing risk for humans in the "global north". 

Another question has to be how bad H5N1 is...It may be a bit worse then "normal" flu types...So far however in the US most cases were mild. It-however-will further evolve...

Co-infections very likely mean more severe disease. 


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2024 at 10:06am
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https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cdc-statement-on-4-confirmed-hpai-h5.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cdc-statement-on-4-confirmed-hpai-h5.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cdc-statement-on-4-confirmed-hpai-h5.html ;

The CDC has posted the following statement - which confirms much of  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/colorado-locally-confirmed-hpai-cases.html - what we learned earlier today from the State of Colorado  - on the (now 4) confirmed human H5 infections among poultry workers from Weld County. 

A fifth presumed positive case will likely be confirmed later today. 

There are still no details provided on whether the workers wore PPEs, or have received antivirals, both of which should be standard procedure. 

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/p-0715-confirm-h5.html - CDC Confirms Human Cases of H5 Bird Flu Among Colorado Poultry Workers

Press Release
For Immediate Release: July 14, 2024
Contact:  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/about-vaccines/index.html - Media Relations
(404) 639-3286


July 14, 2024 – Four human cases of  https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/about/index.html - highly pathogenic avian influenza  (HPAI) A(H5) (“H5 bird flu”) virus infection in the state of Colorado have been confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). This includes all three presumptive-positive cases reported by that state on  https://cdphe.colorado.gov/press-release/colorado-state-health-officials-identify-possible-cases-of-avian-flu-in-colorado - Friday, July 12  and a fourth specimen that was later found to be presumptive-positive by the state on Friday. CDC also is aware of an additional (fifth) presumptive-positive case in Colorado that will be confirmed at CDC once the specimen arrives. All cases were in farm workers who were involved in the depopulation of poultry at a poultry facility experiencing an outbreak of HPAI H5N1 virus. 

A CDC team is on the ground in Colorado, supporting their assessment of the poultry outbreak and associated human cases. Given current information, CDC believes that the risk to the public from this outbreak remains low. These cases again underscore the risk of exposure to infected animals. There are no unexpected increases in flu activity otherwise in Colorado, or in other states affected by H5 bird flu outbreaks in cows and poultry.

DJ, In fact the CDC is still downplaying the risks of H5N1 for humans...

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-4-human-cases-probably-3-more?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-4-human-cases-probably-3-more?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-4-human-cases-probably-3-more?view=stream latest;

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Bird flu snapshot: As the number of infected dairy herds mount, so too does pessimism about driving H5N1 out of cows
  • By  https://www.statnews.com/staff/helen-branswell/ - Helen Branswell  July 15, 2024
​There are more human cases of H5N1 bird flu infection, and another state has joined the list of those with infected dairy cow herds.

https://cdphe.colorado.gov/press-release/health-officials-confirm-human-cases-of-avian-flu-in-colorado-poultry-workers - Colorado  announced Sunday night that five workers involved in the culling of chickens at an H5N1-infected poultry operation had tested positive for the virus. Four of the cases have been confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; the fifth is currently deemed “presumptive” positive because the individual’s test sample hasn’t yet reached the CDC. All five had mild symptoms — conjunctivitis and minor respiratory complaints. None required hospitalization.

Additional testing by the CDC is needed to fully characterize the viruses responsible for these infections. But assuming they are the same as the one circulating in cows (which has occasionally spilled over into poultry operations), these cases will bring to nine the number of human infections recorded since this outbreak was first detected in late March. The CDC, at the request of the state, is helping investigate the new human cases in Colorado.

And on Friday came news that another state had discovered a bird flu-infected herd.  https://ag.ok.gov/highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-detected-in-oklahoma-dairy-herd/ - Oklahoma announced  that a sample collected in April that was only recently tested was found to be positive. No explanation was given for the remarkably slow turnaround in the testing of the sample. Oklahoma called itself the 13th state to find H5N1 in dairy cattle, but in reality its place on the list should be lower, as several states only discovered positive herds in May and June.
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These new human and animal developments support a blunt risk assessment from the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, which gave voice to a rising sense of pessimism about the prospects for containing the H5N1 outbreak in cows in a recent report.

“There are no clear signs that the outbreak is or is about to come under control,” the 26-page document on the public health risks associated with the ongoing spread states plainly.

DJ, With lots of other mammals likely infected with H5N1, a likely link with-increasing-CoViD cases the outlook-in my non expert view-is BAD !!!

It should be a high priority to get H5N1 in humans under control ! For now-JUST FOR NOW !!!!!!!!-symptoms might be mild...But it is developing...A mix with other diseases is very unwelcome...


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2024 at 10:24am
https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/michigan/988628-michigan-avian-flu-in-mammals-and-livestock-2024?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/michigan/988628-michigan-avian-flu-in-mammals-and-livestock-2024?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/michigan/988628-michigan-avian-flu-in-mammals-and-livestock-2024?view=stream ;

DJ, Three feral cats and a racoon found dead near an infected Michigan farm testing positive for H5N1....

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cmaj-practice-five-things-to-know-about.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cmaj-practice-five-things-to-know-about.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cmaj-practice-five-things-to-know-about.html ; (from Canada)

While human infection with HPAI H5N1 is still believed to be rare, it is plausible that some (likely small)  number of cases have gone unrecognized here in the United States - and in other countries - which has led to calls for clinicians to adopt a heightened index of suspicion for avian flu (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/ecdc-call-for-increased-vigilance.html - ECDC Call For Increased Vigilance Against Avian Flu ).
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1. Highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) H5N1 virus is spread globally by wild birds

The circulating H5N1 clade (2.3.4.4b) has caused outbreaks on poultry farms and among backyard flocks, and die-offs among wild birds. Infections in mammals, including cattle and humans, triggered by viral spillover from birds highlights the potential for a pandemic, but the mechanisms of transmission are not fully known. https://www.cmaj.ca/content/196/25/E878?rss=1#ref-1 - 1 , https://www.cmaj.ca/content/196/25/E878?rss=1#ref-2 - 2  Evidence exists of viral reassortment and mammalian adaptation, https://www.cmaj.ca/content/196/25/E878?rss=1#ref-3 - 3  resulting in increased risk of transmission and disease among mammals.

2. As of June 12, 2024, no reported human cases of H5N1 have been acquired in Canada

Nearly 900 human cases of H5N1 have been reported globally since 2003, with a case fatality rate of 52%. https://www.cmaj.ca/content/196/25/E878?rss=1#ref-4 - 4  The clinical presentation may vary from mild to severe influenza. Dairy workers in the United States who recently became infected presented with hemorrhagic conjunctivitis. https://www.cmaj.ca/content/196/25/E878?rss=1#ref-2 - 2

3. Clinicians should ask about animal exposures in people presenting with influenza-like illness, conjunctivitis or, less commonly, meningoencephalitis

People with substantial exposure to livestock or wildlife may be at risk for infection. Currently, the risk to the general population is low, with no evidence of sustained person-to-person transmission. https://www.cmaj.ca/content/196/25/E878?rss=1#ref-3 - 3

4. Conventional laboratory-based testing may identify H5N1 HPAI as influenza A virus

Confirmatory testing is conducted at a provincial or national reference laboratory for suspected infections, which underscores the need to identify patients with exposure histories as soon as possible. https://www.cmaj.ca/content/196/25/E878?rss=1#ref-4 - 4  Nasopharyngeal and conjunctival swabs, if the patient has eye symptoms, should be collected, and public health should be informed of cases under investigation.

5. No vaccine currently exists for human use in Canada

Oseltamivir is the recommended antiviral for treatment and prophylaxis of HPAI infection. Oseltamivir should be administered as soon as possible to a person with a suspected infection, or after close contact with a confirmed case of HPAI.

DJ, also masks/eyeprotection do work !!!


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2024 at 1:28pm

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We’ve progressed from counting infected cows to now counting infected people. “I have never felt that we were as close as we are now to an outbreak of avian influenza among humans.” We need to broaden testing practices now, not later. Waiting for more clusters of infection to appear is an open invitation to mass spread. The handful of cases that have been documented are potentially the tip of the iceberg.
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Rick is not wrong here. This is unfolding more slowly than Covid did, but in the exact same manor. Lack of testing and visibility into the depth of spread, media and Congress focused on other issues so no coverage, and a feeling that we’re waiting for a dam to break…🤦🏽‍♂️

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Farm workers & their families are on frontline of protecting us all from the next pandemic. We owe them every level of protection we have to keep them safe & informed of risk they take every day just to put milk & eggs on our table. https://x.com/hashtag/H5N1?src=hashtag_click - #H5N1 is a deadly virus, BSL3+ select agent. We cannot continue to put people in harms way w/o full protection & healthcare coverage & compensation. It’s unethical & inhumane.

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DJ, we are now passed case-case...first "cluster" so another cluster and then "boom"?


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Date Posted: 15 Jul 2024 at 11:59pm
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https://x.com/hashtag/H5N1?src=hashtag_click - #H5N1 https://x.com/hashtag/AvianFlu?src=hashtag_click - #AvianFlu updates Quick Analysis of the sequence of H5N1 (clade 2.3.4.4b) https://x.com/hashtag/Colorado?src=hashtag_click - #Colorado human case uploaded to
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PB2 mutations: T58A, V109I, V139I, E249G, E362G, K389R, D441N, V478I, V495I, M631L*, V649I, M676A * Dairy cattle outbreak signature
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🚨Breaking news. 1st sequence of the https://x.com/hashtag/H5N1?src=hashtag_click - #H5N1 viruses from Colorado human cases reported over weekend posted in
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by
https://x.com/CDCFlu - @CDCFlu
(in only 3 days is very fast). See link below for trees. Interestingly, the virus appears to cluster w/ viruses from dairy cows & cow milk and NOT with previous wild bird or poultry viruses.
https://x.com/RajlabN - @RajlabN
might be able to do a detailed analysis. This is concerning. It would be helpful if
https://x.com/USDA - @USDA
would share virus sequences from birds on the same farm & nearby. Huge thanks to
https://x.com/CDCFlu - @CDCFlu
for rapid work & data sharing. Hoping the other 4 virus data are shared soon, too. https://t.co/a2pFMgId7c - Americans are  https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-usa - eating more meat than ever , but livestock giants still see plenty of room to grow. As pressure mounts for meat producers to improve their treatment of animals and environmental footprints, they’re turning to a tried-and-true strategy — used in the past by the  https://www.vox.com/2015/3/21/8267049/merchants-of-doubt - tobacco and oil industries  — to expand their markets and shore up the public’s trust in their products: funding favorable research from university scientists.
So -again- if profits/money is all that matters-politics/science for sale-we move from one disaster to the other...


Posted By: Pixie
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2024 at 11:48am
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/officials-probe-heat-wave-factors-h5n1-spread-colorado-poultry-cullers - https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/officials-probe-heat-wave-factors-h5n1-spread-colorado-poultry-cullers


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2024 at 10:18pm
Pixie-thanks for a good link;

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/officials-probe-heat-wave-factors-h5n1-spread-colorado-poultry-cullers - https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/officials-probe-heat-wave-factors-h5n1-spread-colorado-poultry-cullers or https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/officials-probe-heat-wave-factors-h5n1-spread-colorado-poultry-cullers ;

As the investigation continues into recent avian flu infections in as many as five workers who culled Colorado poultry, officials today said that industrial fans in poultry barns where temperatures exceeded 104°F could have spread the virus through windblown feathers and through the air, potentially reducing the effectiveness of personal protective equipment (PPE).

Also, early genetic analysis suggests that the virus that infected the poultry and the workers is the same H5N1 genotype infecting dairy cattle, a useful clue for officials who are examining connections between the farms.


DJ, mutations;
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H5N1. CLOSER and CLOSER ! The new mutation in avian influenza viruses PB2-627V allowing the virus to efficiently infect both birds and humans, https://t.co/SJ0JgIGLHD -
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https://x.com/hashtag/H5N1?src=hashtag_click - #H5N1 https://x.com/hashtag/AvianFlu?src=hashtag_click - #AvianFlu updates Quick Analysis of the sequence of H5N1 (clade 2.3.4.4b) https://x.com/hashtag/Colorado?src=hashtag_click - #Colorado human case uploaded to
https://x.com/GISAID - @GISAID
PB2 mutations: T58A, V109I, V139I, E249G, E362G, K389R, D441N, V478I, V495I, M631L*, V649I, M676A * Dairy cattle outbreak signature
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Sequence uploaded from Colorado contains unique PB2 E249G & NS1 R21Q mentioned in Singh et al. Detection and characterization of H5N1 HPAIV in environmental samples from a dairy farm. Virus Genes (2024) https://t.co/1omzFTkDEt -


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2024 at 10:27pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/gisaid-plot-thickens.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/gisaid-plot-thickens.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/gisaid-plot-thickens.html ;

While we await further details, overnight several experts weighed in on Twitter/X, including Raj Rajnarayanan  https://x.com/RajlabN - @RajlabN  Assistant Dean of Research and Associate Professor, NYITCOM at Arkansas State University:

https://x.com/RajlabN/status/1812997153792610634">

And virologist Tom Peacock  https://x.com/PeacockFlu - @PeacockFlu

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https://x.com/PeacockFlu/status/1813135622938284356">

Obviously, getting sequences from the infected poultry and from wild birds in Weld County, Colorado would go a long ways towards answering these questions.  Hopefully those will be forthcoming sooner rather than later. 

Stay tuned.  


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continues to insist that the https://x.com/hashtag/H5N1?src=hashtag_click - #H5N1 https://x.com/hashtag/birdflu?src=hashtag_click - #birdflu outbreak in cows can be stopped. Serious question: How do you stop transmission when you don't know where the virus is?

DJ, We are at the early stages of a H5N1 pandemic. (Click on the orange blocks to get to the twitter behind it). 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_that_can_get_H5N1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_that_can_get_H5N1 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_that_can_get_H5N1 May be only less than 1% of real cases...So at least 40 sorts of mammals may be able to catch/often spread H5N1....

A reason why it may NOT become a pandemic would be if earlier flu-types and/or flu-vaccines still would offer (some) protection against H5N1...

CoViD-weakening immunity-however does increase of catching-also-H5N1...So "Flu-Rona" may become "a big problem/killer"...Masks/eye protection may still be of use !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2024 at 10:36pm
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: Can https://x.com/hashtag/H5N1?src=hashtag_click - #H5N1 spread through cow sneezes? Experiment offers clues https://t.co/kIQ9vmXnXg - by Smriti Mallapaty 👉Study suggests the virus can spread through the respiratory system but infected milk is probably driving the outbreak in the US.
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The number of animals -in the wild- catching/spreading the virus simply is too much to stop the further spread. 

When lots of wild birds did get infected-eaten by mammals that also got infected, we had a problem !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2024 at 3:08am
https://www.wur.nl/en/news-wur/show-1/no-major-role-for-airborne-transmission-of-bird-flu-virus-in-aerosols-of-wild-waterfowl-faeces-in-infecting-poultry-farms.htm - https://www.wur.nl/en/news-wur/show-1/no-major-role-for-airborne-transmission-of-bird-flu-virus-in-aerosols-of-wild-waterfowl-faeces-in-infecting-poultry-farms.htm or https://www.wur.nl/en/news-wur/show-1/no-major-role-for-airborne-transmission-of-bird-flu-virus-in-aerosols-of-wild-waterfowl-faeces-in-infecting-poultry-farms.htm ;

July 11, 2024

Airborne transmission of bird flu via aerosolization of contaminated faeces from wild waterfowl does not play an important role in the infection of indoor-housed poultry. This is according to a risk analysis carried out by researchers of Wageningen Bioveterinary Research.

In 2021, Wageningen Bioveterinary Research (WBVR, part of Wageningen University & Research) conducted a semi-quantitative risk assessment for the introduction of highly pathogenic avian influenza virus (HPAIv) into poultry farms via aerosolized faeces of infected wild birds. Based on that assessment using a relatively simple model, the researchers estimated that the risk of this introduction route is very low. With support from the Statutory Tasks program (WOT), the WBVR researchers conducted follow-up research. For this, a quantitative and comprehensive microbial risk assessment model was developed. “With this model, we can estimate the probability that the aerosolization of faeces from HPAIv-infected wild birds in the vicinity of poultry farms results in infection of indoor-housed poultry,” explains veterinary epidemiologist Armin Elbers.

Parameters

Model input parameters were retrieved from the scientific literature and experimental data. Data availability was diverse across input parameters. “Especially the parameters on aerosolization of wild bird droppings, HPAIv survival and aerosol dispersion are uncertain,” Elbers said.

Extremely low probability

“The daily probability of infection of a single poultry farm via aerosolization of contaminated faeces from wild waterfowl is extremely low,” concludes risk analyst Clazien de Vos, who conducted the study together with Elbers. Taking into account the total number of poultry farms and the length of the bird flu season, an HPAIv infection in poultry farms during the bird flu season in the Netherlands is to be expected once every 455 years via this introduction route. Even under a worst-case scenario, the probability of new infections is still very low: once every 17 years. This is a general estimate, averaged across different farm types, virus strains and wild bird species, and the results indicate that the uncertainty is relatively high. Based on these modelling results, the researchers conclude that this route of introduction is unlikely to play a significant role in the occurrence of HPAIv outbreaks in indoor-housed poultry.

Biosecurity

Other risk factors, such as (occasional) failure to operate in strict and consistent compliance with biosecurity measures on the poultry farm, may be of greater importance in the introduction of HPAIv on poultry farms.

Furthermore, the risk assessment provides tools for preventing possible wind-supported transmission of HPAIv via particles of faeces from infected wild birds. Drying of HPAIv-infected faeces from wild birds is a prerequisite for aerosolisation. “This practically only happens during the bird flu season when the droppings are deposited on concrete or stone-paved surfaces around poultry units. The probability of the occurrence of a chain of drying of HPAIv-contaminated bird droppings, subsequent aerosolisation and transport by wind of still infectious HPAIv via the air inlets of a poultry barn is very low,” Elbers said.

To make this probability negligible, the researcher advises poultry farmers to regularly check for the presence of wild bird droppings on the paved surfaces around poultry houses and safely remove them. “This will also reduce the likelihood of the incidental introduction of HPAIv-contaminated wild bird droppings into the poultry house by sticking to the boots of people walking on the property and entering the barn.”


DJ, Since 2021 the picture did change..


Posted By: Pixie
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2024 at 6:19am
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/us-probes-nearly-70-suspected-human-cases-of-h5n1-bird-flu/ - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/us-probes-nearly-70-suspected-human-cases-of-h5n1-bird-flu/

“Either these workers also work on dairy farms and got infected there, or this massive poultry outbreak is likely caused by the virus from dairy cows and then jumped to humans,” added Dr Rick Bright, an immunologist and influenza expert, writing on X (formerly Twitter). 


Posted By: Pixie
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2024 at 3:10pm
https://www.kron4.com/news/national/ap-us-news/ap-two-more-bird-flu-cases-reported-in-colorado-but-elsewhere-a-study-finds-no-asymptomatic-infections/ - https://www.kron4.com/news/national/ap-us-news/ap-two-more-bird-flu-cases-reported-in-colorado-but-elsewhere-a-study-finds-no-asymptomatic-infections/


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2024 at 4:50am
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/hk-chp-monitoring-another-fatal-h5n6.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/hk-chp-monitoring-another-fatal-h5n6.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/hk-chp-monitoring-another-fatal-h5n6.html ;

It's been more than 3 years since Anhui province has reported an H5N6 case ( https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2021/02/chinas-recent-resurgence-of-human-hpai.html - link ), but today Hong Kong's  https://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/202407/25/P2024072500502.htm - CHP is reporting  on a fatal case (70, F) who fell ill following a visit to a live poultry market in the middle of June and died on July 8th. 

While getting reliable, and timely, reports out of China can be a challenge, this is only the 3rd case reported on the Mainland this year.  The  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/who-wpro-reports-2nd-h5n6-case-in.html - other two cases were from Fujian Province , and all three have proved fatal. 

It is certainly possible that there are cases that are either not being detected by local surveillance, or are simply not reported.  The ECDC chart below shows we are a far cry from where we were in 2021 (n=35 cases). 

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/Communicable-disease-threats-report-week-21-2024_0.pdf">

But these reports - along with  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cambodia-reports-7th-h5n1-case-of-2024.html - Cambodia's recent surge in clade 2.3.2.1c H5N1 virus infections  - remind us that HPAI H5 continues to explore multiple evolutionary paths, and that we may see others emerge over time.

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Recent studies (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/07/msphere-hpai-h5n6-virus-with-remarkable.html - mSphere: An HPAI H5N6 Virus With Remarkable Tropism for Extra-respiratory Organs in the Ferret Model ) suggest the H5N6 virus continues to adapt to mammalian hosts, while 2 years ago the Lancet published  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2022/06/the-lancet-resurgence-of-h5n6-avian.html - Resurgence of H5N6 Avian Influenza Virus in 2021 Poses New Threat to Public Health.

All of which makes the lack of information coming out of China less than reassuring. 

DJ see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H5N6 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H5N6 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H5N6 (including a timeline). 


Posted By: Pixie
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2024 at 3:49pm
https://www.investing.com/ - https://www.investing.com/

Reuters) -The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment on Thursday announced three additional human cases of bird flu among poultry farm workers, bringing the total number of confirmed human cases in the U.S. this year to 13.


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2024 at 10:58pm
DJ-There were some "stories" of Human-to-Human (H2H) spread of H5N1 in (some parts of ) the US-but so far there is NO PROOF ! Still ;

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United Kingdom's Health Security Agency (HSA) yesterday updated its risk assessment for H5N1 avian influenza B3.13 genotype from three to four on a six-tier scale. Is U.S. still waiting on
https://x.com/CDCgov - @CDCgov
https://x.com/CDCFlu - @CDCFlu
to release IRAT risk assessment? https://t.co/DrFu6m99Kk - Sustained and/or multispecies mammalian outbreaks; increasing human zoonotic cases or limited person to person spread, linked to zoonotic exposures.

DJ, step 5 is larger human outbreaks or without animal links, step 6 is H2H spread...Before july 17 the UK did go for step 3-mammal-to-mammal spread...

DJ-again...to avoid a tunnelvision only looking for H5N1-is there a CoViD link ??????
The way "science/experts" work may miss co-spread ! 

In high risk groups for H5N1-what is the problem of also doing a PCR-test for CoViD, asking about corona/CoViD infections/vaccinations ? 

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In the not so distant future, many will claim: “But we didn’t know!” Nah. They know. They just don’t want to face it because it’s inconvenient. People are choosing to ignore the sick and dead. They think it won’t happen to them. What a ridiculous situation. https://x.com/hashtag/CovidIsNotOver?src=hashtag_click - #CovidIsNotOver


DJ, Denialism is a defense mechanism when confronted with a reality we can not handle...It is NOT the job of an average citizen to "know all there is to know" on infectious diseases-it is a government job ! 

But governments end up working for a "donor class" ignoring climate collapse, pandemics...producing a lot of empty words...

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US: Targeted H5 surveillance since March 24, 2024 Total people monitored: 4,100+ Total people tested: 200+ Human cases: 13 total reported human cases in the United States H5 Bird Flu: Current Situation - CDC https://t.co/eAwjygn2XQ -

H5N1 is "only mild" ...untill it is not...

Another excuse may be -it is already out of control in/via mammals-DJ-well than it is a governments job to get it under control !

Age of insanity !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2024 at 11:35pm
https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/994361-study-raises-questions-about-key-features-of-h5n1-infection-in-cattle - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/994361-study-raises-questions-about-key-features-of-h5n1-infection-in-cattle   or;

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/994361-study-raises-questions-about-key-features-of-h5n1-infection-in-cattle ;

Study Raises Questions About Key Features of H5N1 Infection in Cattle

Study Raises Questions About Key Features of H5N1 Infection in Cattle

— It may not always produce mild illness, and asymptomatic animals can harbor virus


by  https://www.medpagetoday.com/people/kf5618/kristina-fiore - Kristina Fiore , Director of Enterprise & Investigative Reporting, MedPage Today,
July 26, 2024

​A new paper challenged two ideas about how the H5N1 bird flu behaves in cattle: 

1,- that it always produces mild illness, and 
2,- that asymptomatic animals don't spread disease.

Instead, the paper showed that cattle mortality was twice as high during outbreaks on two of the nine farms assessed, and almost a third of nasal swabs in asymptomatic animals were positive for the virus, as were half of urine samples.


The findings underscore "the need for robust measures to prevent and control the infection and further spread of HPAI [highly pathogenic avian influenza] H5N1 in dairy cattle," Kiril Dimitrov, DVM, PhD, of Texas A&M Veterinary Medical Diagnostic Laboratory in College Station, and co-authors wrote in  https://rdcu.be/dOZZw -
Dimitrov and colleagues studied nine farms -- five in Texas, two in New Mexico, one in Kansas, and one in Ohio -- that had outbreaks from February 11 to March 19.

The New York Times  https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/24/health/bird-flu-cows-milk.html - reportedopens in a new tab or window  that 99 cows died during a 3-week outbreak on the Ohio farm, which is twice the normal mortality rate. The other increased mortality event occurred on a Texas farm, according to the paper.

The researchers found evidence of subclinical infection in some cows, with viral RNA detected in six of 19 nasal swabs and four of eight urine samples. Interestingly, animals with clinical illness shed virus at a lower frequency in nasal swabs and urine, they noted…..
lots more tiphat

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/uritheflu/111256 - https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti...itheflu/111256


DJ, Like with lots of other diseases virus-spread may be high before (major) symptoms show. Finding virus in nasal swabs suggests droplet/airborne spread...

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Compare South Dakota and North Parker… When you see H5 following FluA you know it’s of concern. (Especially as it’s July and Schools reopen 10-40 data from now)

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Eyes on Louisville, Kentucky Anchorage, Alaska Sites of Spring FluA spikes prior to H5 becoming formally tested. Still, both below 100ppm

DJ...indicators for further spread of H5N1 in humans in the US ????

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If there is still any doubt about how infectious Cov is getting, have a look at the short baseline duration between March and May. This virus is moving further and further away from even achieving reasonably limited herd immunity. Just relentless immune escape. Disastrous stuff. x.com/covid19_diseas…
DJ, still some "experts" claim catching CoViD offers protection against reinfection...
Some high risk groups may have had several CoViD infections-very likely resulting in long term illness "exploding"...

Catching CoViD over and over again may destroy immunity-offer a.o. H5N1 room for further spread. 

DJ-H5N1 is a GLOBAL problem. It is spread in mammals in almost all continents (only Australia/New Zealand for now may escape...could it reach those places via AntArctica ???). 

More study on how CoViD and H5N1 "mix" , "co-spread" may be urgent !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2024 at 12:33am
DJ, Here in Europe we "love to believe" H5N1 in cattle is mainly a US problem...it is NOT !!!!

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The UK's rationale for not testing their cattle (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/05/uk-hairs-risk-statement-on-avian.html - UK HAIRS Risk Statement On Avian Influenza (H5N1) In Livestock ) for HPAI was that the H5N1 genotype B3.13 had never been seen in Europe or the UK, and was unlikely to cross oceans. 
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A little over a month ago, researchers from Germany's  https://www.fli.de/en/startpage/ - Friedrich-Loeffler-Institut  (FLI) announced that in early experiments, they found that several European strains of HPAI H5N1 were capable of infecting bovine cells (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/germany-fli-statement-on-experimental.html -  FLI Statement On Experimental Infection Of Dairy Cows With European H5N1 Virus ).

While unwelcome news, it appears to have had an effect. Earlier this week the  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/ukhsa-raises-risk-assessment-on-hpai.html - UK raised their pre-pandemic risk level  (from to 4), and warned:

With the current evidence we should not assume that the risk of a mammalian outbreak is limited to clade B.3.13.

In last Thursday's Eurosurveillance, researchers from Germany's FLI published their full results, including their study on the effectiveness of heat inactivation on different strains of the HPAI H5N1 virus.

They not only confirmed that cattle are susceptible to a range of HPAI H5N1 viruses, they demonstrate that heat treatment at 56 °C for 30 minutes did not completely eliminate the infectivity of the tested AIV in milk.

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Once again we find that the deeper we look, the more we find. 

Yet in far too many places around the globe, Don't test, don't tell' continues to be the preferred option. 

As a result, we don't know how pervasive HPAI is in American cattle, and we know even less about what is going on with H5Nx in places like China, Asia, Russia, the Middle East, and Africa. 

There are some signs that governments and agencies are starting to take the threat more seriously (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/colorado-orders-mandatory-statewide.html - Colorado Orders Mandatory Statewide Weekly Bulk-Tank Testing for HPAI  and  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/ukhsa-raises-risk-assessment-on-hpai.html - UKHSA Raises Risk Assessment On HPAI H5N1 ), but in far too many places half-measures and bland reassurances remain the order of the day.

We may get lucky, and HPAI H5Nx may fizzle. But that is not its current trajectory, and we risk enormous damage by continuing to underestimate its future impacts. 


DJ...a major reason why recent H5N1 in humans mainly is detected in the US may be they are looking for it...

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CoViD undermines immunity-so H5N1/H5 types of flu get more chances...

We do NOT have "100 days to stop a pandemic"...(we HAD 100 days maybe even a few years ago when H5N1 spread from birds into mammals...). 

DJ-Pandemics are related to how we live...If you have 8.1 billion people eating more meat then ever before...air polution in urban area...often aging population...Mix it with climate collapse...the outcome is pandemics...

"Politicians-for-sale" defend profits NOT public health...( "the old and weak are a burden"...)...

"Genocide by pandemic" is a very crazy idea...




Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2024 at 5:26am
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The state of Michigan has been rightfully lauded for having perhaps the most aggressive testing and monitoring program for farm workers exposed to HPAI in the country.  Through their efforts, two dairy workers were identified as having mild H5N1 infection (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/05/michigan-announces-1st-human-h5n1.html - here  and  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/05/cdc-statement-on-2nd-michigan-h5.html - here ). 

Michigan's MDARD also invited the USDA to investigate the spread of the H5 virus in farms (see  https://www.aphis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/hpai-h5n1-dairy-cattle-mi-epi-invest.pdf - Epidemiological investigation into the spread of H5N1 in Michigan ) which concluded the movement of livestock, farm equipment (including trucks), and personnel contributed to the spread of the H5N1 virus.

Other states have been far less cooperative, although Colorado recently asked the CDC to send  investigators after 9 people were infected by H5N1 across two poultry farms, and  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/colorado-orders-mandatory-statewide.html - last week announced the most aggressive dairy cattle testing  in the nation. 

Grading on the curve, Michigan would appear to get an A+, but - as the following MMWR report illustrates - there were limitations to their surveillance as well. 

  • Of the 23 known (now 26) infected dairies, only 20 appear to have provided employee lists. 
  • Illnesses and/or symptoms were mostly self reported, and testing was voluntary. 
  • Only symptomatic individuals were tested.

It is unknown how many other infected farms there might be in Michigan, and it is also possible that some individuals with minor symptoms - or an aversion to being tested - might not have responded to the daily texts. 

There is also often a narrow `window' where testing will reliably detect HPAI H5, particularly if  these workers were on already on prophylactic antivirals (not stated, but a common practice). 

Still, given that perfect is often the enemy of good, this is far-and-away the most comprehensive testing and surveillance program we've seen since HPAI H5 emerged in American dairy cattle, and it may be the best we can hope for. 

Given the anecdotal reports (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/eid-journal-avian-influenza-ah5n1-virus.html - EID Journal: Avian Influenza A(H5N1) Virus among Dairy Cattle, Texas, USA ) of sick dairy workers who have refused to be tested, and the (likely large) number of unidentified infected herds across the nation, the known number of human infections is likely a significant undercount. 

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Two weeks ago the CDC held a COCA Call for clinicians to help them identify, treat, and report suspected novel flu infections (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cdc-coca-call-on-h5n1-for-clinicians.html - CDC COCA Call On H5N1 for Clinicians & Healthcare Centers Now Online ).

This presentation also included a  https://emergency.cdc.gov/coca/ppt/2024/071624_slides.pdf - 48-slide PDF file .  

As we've seen previously from the UKHSA (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/ttd-time-to-detect-revisited.html - TTD (Time to Detect): Revisited ), identifying community spread of a novel virus could take weeks, and only come after dozens or even hundreds of people had been infected. 

Our ability to detect H5 cases in the community depends not only on a bit luck, but also on how hard we are actually looking.

And right now, in far too many places, we barely appear to be looking at all.

DJ, From "economy first" to "economy only"...

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DJ, So NO testing..."vaccines will save us"....We do not want to learn anything from recent past...


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2024 at 11:53pm
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/uritheflu/111256 - https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/uritheflu/111256 or https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/uritheflu/111256 ;

A new paper challenged two ideas about how the H5N1 bird flu behaves in cattle: that it always produces mild illness, and that asymptomatic animals don't spread disease.

Instead, the paper showed that cattle mortality was twice as high during outbreaks on two of the nine farms assessed, and almost a third of nasal swabs in asymptomatic animals were positive for the virus, as were half of urine samples.


DJ, However by far the biggest problem may be mammal spread of H5N1 (and possibly other flu-types) in the "wild"...Very likely spreading between different species may see/need mutations that also increase risks for a H5N1 pandemic in humans...

The "One Health" idea-mammal health=human health-may be good. Translating it into action seems hard...

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I just received a new spreadsheet of avian influenza depopulation data from USDA APHIS. The total indemnity payments paid to commercial poultry producers was $840,588,987, with 99,561,806 birds included in this spreadsheet.
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We know deaths have now surpassed 100 million commercial poultry birds, so this data is pretty current. Some late June and early July payments aren't in yet. We see that heatstroke-based mass killing (VSD+) was used in Iowa as recently as June. These data tell an interesting story--the largest facilities are more likely to use VSD+, and receive more in indemnity payments, so we really are incentivizing callous business practices. It would be interesting to write an academic article on this information. I need to catch up on matching payments and depopulations to specific companies. This is a bit of a grind, and I could use some help. If you want to learn how I do this and help me match this data, please reach out. It's much easier when we have more people. I could have one person track a handful of companies instead of just one person trying to do all the companies by themselves. See all the data here: https://t.co/eAu9yeNhuA - -

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Sometimes they compost them inside the buildings, or they spread them out over fields and cover them with shavings and dirt to compost. I attended a webinar on this a few months ago that I recorded.

DJ, From a moral point of view the way humans (mis)treat farm animals is totally unacceptable...They are living beings...not "damaged goods"....

Composting infected poultry may NOT kill the virus...

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“Ventilation Shutdown (VSD) - Ventilation shutdown is defined as the cessation of natural or mechanical ventilation of atmospheric air in a building where birds are housed, with or without action to increase the ambient temperature. Birds die of hyperthermia.”
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Ventilation Shutdown (VSD/VSD+) is exactly what it says: The pig or chicken barn is closed, all air inlets and ventilation sealed, and fans turned off. Heaters, steam, and/or gas are turned on. Body heat from the animals, combined with any added heat, raises the temperature in the house until the pigs or chickens die from hyperthermia (overheating) or suffocation from built-up gases. This typically takes hours, according to all published research.

DJ, So poultry, pigs get overheated and run out of oxygen...Again-the real disease is in the human mind....

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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2024 at 11:14pm
https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-13-total-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-in-2024?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-13-total-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-in-2024?view=stream   or

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Getting a seasonal flu vaccine will not protect against H5N1 bird flu

While getting a seasonal flu vaccine only prevents seasonal flu and will not protect against H5N1 bird flu, it is important that people who may have frequent exposure to infected or potentially infected birds or other animals get a seasonal flu vaccine, ideally 2 weeks before their potential exposure. 

This is because it can reduce the very rare and theoretical risk of getting sick with human and avian influenza A viruses at the same time.

DJ...Infected poultry end up as compost...(crazy)...if not as food for cattle/pigs...
The use of lagoons as a dumping area for milk from H5N1 sick dairy cows is not a good idea.
What could go wrong? Maybe the UV from the sun cooks the virus now in the summer. In the fall and winter? In Colorado or Minnesota?
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See how a manure lagoon works and why farmers want to build even more of them



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If you buy a house on the 9 million acres of agricultural districts in New York state, you sign a disclosure form that says the farmers near you have the "right to farm" even when it causes noise, dust and odors. Still, when a farmer decides to build a lagoon to store millions of gallons of liquid manure, the neighbors are often disappointed to find out they have little say in the matter. They can also be shocked to hear that government sometimes requires manure storage and even helps pay for it. Since 1994, 461 manure storages have been built with state financial help, according to the NYS Department of Agriculture and Markets. Others are privately or federally funded. The "Right to Farm" is a state law that protects 25,316 farms on 6.5 million of those 9-million acres of agricultural districts. The rest of that land is occupied by people who do not farm.

DJ, Government policies WORSEN the problems...You need to get H5N1 and many other diseases OUT of the food chain ! Not pump in into it...


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2024 at 9:25pm
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Outbreak Definitely not containable using current approach. Nor is evolution of virus (adaptation to humans, virulence, transmissibility) being controlled or monitored by current approach. Are Human exposure/challenge studies ongoing…are people exposed fully consented? Are they given access to all protection available?
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There's a big problem with the way the US is responding to the H5N1 cattle outbreak. Samples are not being tested in a timely manner (months later) and then these results are not being disclosed in a timely manner (again, months later) either. This outbreak is not containable.
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🚨🚨Wow! In Sharp contrast to feel good press by
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link; https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.07.27.24310982v1.full.pdf - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.07.27.24310982v1.full.pdf or https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.07.27.24310982v1.full.pdf 
(DJ-More on that later-from other sources)

DJ, Food prices already going up; eggs, milk, meat expected to further increase in price in MANY places...

The expected major war in the Middle East may EXPLODE energy prices/inflation...

We are in many ways in a very serious crisis !


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Date Posted: 01 Aug 2024 at 2:14am
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🚨Breaking: New study lends weight to suspicions of undiagnosed bird flu infections in people. Nearly 15% of farmworkers had antibodies agst H5N1 in a small study. A lack of surveillance is a problem for all of us. My latest
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A new study lends weight to fears that more livestock workers have gotten the bird flu than has been reported.

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https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/usda-adds-house-mouse-to-mammals.html - Seven weeks ago  the USDA added the common house mouse (Mus musculus) to their  https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/mammals - list of wild mammals affected by H5N1 , after dozens were found infected at a New Mexico poultry farm.  Since then, the number of mice infected has grown to more than 80.  

Today, they've added three new species - deer mice (n=13) and a prairie vole (n=1) & Desert cottontail (n=1) - all collected in Weld, County, Colorado which is the site of recent human, poultry, and dairy outbreaks. 

Additionally, Larimer County, CO. has added 2 domestic cats, bringing the total reported since March to 36.  Details on where these new species were detected, and likely source of their infection are not provided. 
DJ-most of the spread of H5N1, CoViD 9and Mpox a.o.) in mammals is under the radar...So 90% or 99,9% of cases NEVER are detected...
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Letter to Lancet ID in which scientists theorize that if https://x.com/hashtag/H5N1?src=hashtag_click - #H5N1 https://x.com/hashtag/birdflu?src=hashtag_click - #birdflu mutates to be able to easily infect people, the changes that would let the virus attach to receptors in human noses rather than deep lungs would tamp down disease severity.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099%2824%2900460-2/fulltext - https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00460-2/fulltext or https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00460-2/fulltext 

DJ-All indications H5N1 may be in dozens/hundreds of -most US linked- (former) farm workers with possible spread in meat industry...

Spread in mammals may run into the millions-if it is in mice...again CoViD-also more widespread again in most places-means decreased immunity...

We should expect/prepare for a "serious flu season" within a few months...


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Date Posted: 01 Aug 2024 at 7:36am
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While the total number of dairy farms reporting HPAI hovers just above 170, and only 4 dairy workers (and poultry workers) have been diagnosed with the new bovine strain (B3.13) of the virus, there are  reasons to believe the scope of this outbreak is larger than those numbers would suggest. 

  • Firsthttps://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/03/curious-reports-of-unknown-disease-in.html - cattle were reportedly falling ill in Texas  (and other states) for months before the first diagnosis - last March - of HPAI H5N1.  
  • Secondhttps://www.bovinevetonline.com/news/industry/message-ag-industry-about-h5n1 - we're repeatedly heard  that farm owners - and farm workers - have been less-than-receptive to testing of cattle, or personnel.  Testing of cattle (except prior to interstate transport) remains largely optional. 
  • Third, we've seen numerous anecdotal reports of sick cattle workers who were never tested, including in last month's  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/eid-journal-avian-influenza-ah5n1-virus.html - EID Journal: Avian Influenza A(H5N1) Virus among Dairy Cattle, Texas, USA .

Testing of exposed farm workers, when it is done, is generally limited to symptomatic individuals only.  The CDC justifies this decision by citing  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cdc-updates-on-seroprevalence-genetic.html - a recent (small) seroprevalence study in Michigan , which tested 35 farm workers and found no neutralizing or HI antibodies specific to avian influenza A(H5N1) virus.

That said,  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/cdc-summary-of-h5n1-seroprevalence.html - we've seen a number of seroprevalence studies  on (various) HPAI H5N1 strains over the years that have found limited evidence of asymptomatic (or very mild) infection with H5 avian influenza. 

Of course getting people to voluntarily submit to a serological study (which may involve multiple blood draws over time), can be difficult.  Language barriers, the migratory aspects of farm work, and a general distrust of the government are additional hurdles. 

All of which brings us to a preprint - published on the MedRxiv website yesterday -  which among other things, reports finding a small number (n=2) of H5 seropositive farm workers among a small cohort (n=14) that were tested across two farms in Texas. 

They also report several mutations associated with increased spillover potential in cattle. 

It is worth noting these researchers used Microneutralisation (MN) assay rather than Haemagglutination Inhibition (HAI) testing. Both are viewed as the gold standard for antibody testing, but the MN assay's superior sensitivity can be more prone to detecting cross-reacting antibodies from previous influenza A virus infections or vaccinations.

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From  https://www.kff.org/ - KFF Health News :

https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/bird-flu-undetected-farmworkers-testing-contagious-mammals/ - Bird Flu Cases Are Going Undetected, New Study Suggests. It’s a Problem for All of Us.

By  https://kffhealthnews.org/news/author/amy-maxmen/ - Amy Maxmen  JULY 31, 2024

A new study lends weight to fears that more livestock workers have gotten the bird flu than has been reported.
 
I am very confident there are more people being infected than we know about,” said Gregory Gray, the infectious disease researcher at the University of Texas Medical Branch who led the study,  https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.07.27.24310982v1 - posted online Wednesday  and under review to be published in a leading infectious disease journal. “Largely, that’s because our surveillance has been so poor.”

As bird flu cases go underreported, health officials risk being slow to notice if the virus were to become more contagious. A large surge of infections outside of farmworker communities would trigger the government’s flu surveillance system, but by then it might be too late to contain.
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Richard Webby, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center for Influenza at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis, Tennessee, said the results confirmed his suspicions that the 13 human bird flu cases reported this year by the CDC were an undercount.

“Maybe what we see isn’t exactly the tip of the iceberg, but it’s certainly not the whole story,” Webby said.

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I can't say that I'm particularly surprised by these findings, but they should serve as a wake-up call. 

It has been more than 4 months since the first (belated) detection of HPAI H5 in cattle, and sad to say, we continue to treat HPAI H5 as more of an agricultural economic problem than as a potential public health threat.  

Information continues to be released  https://gisaid.org/resources/gisaid-in-the-news/highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-outbreak-in-the-united-states/ - piecemeal, and at a glacial pace. 

While H5N1 remains a long-shot for becoming a pandemic, we do ourselves few favors by turning a blind eye, and hoping for the best. 


DJ.."Don't look up" ...do not test-do not tell...

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DJ...lots of places will have high CoViD ...and may have H5N1 in wild animals...


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Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 8:50pm
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More weird stuff. India's been going through a bad H1N1 outbreak in the last couple of months and just uploaded an early sequence collected from Pune. It has a transversion nuc 29T in the HA N-term only seen in a couple of US sequences and abundant in US H5N1 cattle sequences.

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What's even weirder is that nuc 29T is abundant in H7N9 sequences. Will need more sequences but this indicate a novel H1N1 adaption strategy acquired via reassortment or is this just independent convergence of some kind due to pressure?

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Spitballing - high global temperatures increasing rates of viral mutation? Literature seems to support higher temperatures = higher rates of mutation Seems like recent years have been extraordinary for zoonotic disease mutation, and for temperature records.
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Worth tracking closely. Glad to see scientists sharing these data in
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DJ, The Australian (imported) H5N1 human case had travel history in India. How much spread of flu is being missed in India-also hit hard by CoViD ? 


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2024 at 9:05am
https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/thailand-medical-authorities-warn-of-alarming-flu-outbreak-in-the-northeastern-provinces - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/thailand-medical-authorities-warn-of-alarming-flu-outbreak-in-the-northeastern-provinces or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/thailand-medical-authorities-warn-of-alarming-flu-outbreak-in-the-northeastern-provinces -bordering Cambodia-just west of it...A "new variant of H3N2" may be spreading ? 

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-enhanced-replication-of.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-enhanced-replication-of.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-enhanced-replication-of.html ;

For reasons that are poorly understood, HPAI H5 viruses - of which there are several subtypes (H5N1, H5N2, H5N5, H5N6, etc.), dozens of subclades (2.3.4.4b, 2.3.4.4h, 2.3.2.1c,  https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2024-DON519 - 2.3.2.1a, etc.) and hundreds of genotypes (eg. B3.13) currently circulating around the globe - vary greatly in their host range, transmissibility, and pathogenicity. 

As the modified https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/cumulative-number-of-confirmed-human-cases-for-avian-influenza-a%28h5n1%29-reported-to-who-2003-2024 -  WHO chart  below illustrates, the oft-cited 50% CFR (Case Fatality Rate) of HPAI H5N1 is only true in a handful of - mostly Asian - nations, and since 2020 has averaged 22% (8 of 35 cases).   
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The bovine B3.13 genotype currently affecting cattle has infected at least 13 American farm workers since March, but so far it has only produced mild illness in humans.  The concern, of course, is that could change over time. 

Yesterday, in  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-bovine-h5n1-influenza-virus.html - Preprint: Bovine H5N1 Influenza Virus Binds Poorly to Human-type Sialic Acid Receptors , we looked at a study which reassuringly found the B3.13 genotype continues to bind preferentially to avian receptor cells. 

Today we have a study which finds that the bovine B3.13 genotype doesn't replicate in lung tissues as well as earlier (A/Vietnam/1203/2004), more pathogenic (in humans), H5N1 variants.  

It also doesn't appear to illicit as strong of an immune response, both of which may help explain it current mild presentation. 

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While this study is reassuring, influenza's superpower is its ability to continually reinvent itself, either slowly through antigenic drift, or rapidly via antigenic shift (reassortment).   

The current `mild' presentation of bovine (B3.13) H5N1 could change overnight with one or two `key' mutations, or reassortment with a more `humanized' virus.  

Or not.  Flu viruses are famously unpredictable. 

While we are watching H5N1 in the Americas, we could easily be blindsided by another genotype or clade from elsewhere in the world, or even a different subtype altogether (i.e. H5N6, H5N2, H3N8, H10Nx, etc).

The point being, that whether H5N1 (and bovine B3.13 in particular) has the `right stuff' to spark a pandemic is unknowable, but history tells us that another novel flu will emerge. 

And when that inevitably happens, we'd better be prepared for it.  

DJ...Could Thailand be dealing with a H5N1 influenced H3N2 ???


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2024 at 11:41pm
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A Nature study shows evidence of multidirectional mammalian interspecies transmission Avian Flu-H5N1, specifically cattle to cat and cattle to raccoon. “This is one of the first times seeing evidence of efficient, sustained mammal-to-mammal transmission.” https://t.co/VMHMRmpF7d -

A recent study published by Nature has shown evidence of multidirectional mammalian interspecies transmission of the highly pathogenic avian influenza (H5N1). Specifically, the study revealed cattle-to-cat and cattle-to-raccoon transmission.1

Investigators conducted a clinic epidemiological investigation across 9 farms in Texas, New Mexico, Kansas, and Ohio that reported morbidity events between February 11, 2024, and March 19, 2024. A diagnostic investigation was carried out on samples collected from the 9 farms, with investigators utilizing whole genome sequencing of characterized viral strains as well as modeling and epidemiological data. They concluded that cattle from the Ohio farm had been infected by cows in Texas after the Texas cattle were transported to the Ohio farm.

DJ, the more species catch H5N1 the more different types of H5N1 may show up. Cambodia very likely has another type of the same H5N1-virus...most of the -detected- spread via poultry into children...In SE Asia a lot of people may have poultry in their backyards...

Another aspect may be older people may have been in contact with types of flu that could offer some better protection against H5N1...

Also gender may make a difference. Males have more ACE-2 receptors so catching CoViD makes them more ill...CFR for CoViD in males is higher...

Old age may see immunity less effective but against other diseases...


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Date Posted: 06 Aug 2024 at 11:35pm
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This article sums up the devastating impact that this highly pathogenic avian influenza variant has had so far on wild birds and mammals globally. We need to prevent this virus from ever spilling over from poultry to wildlife again. https://x.com/hashtag/vogelgriep?src=hashtag_click - #vogelgriep

link; https://news.mongabay.com/2024/08/animal-apocalypse-deadly-bird-flu-infects-hundreds-of-species-pole-to-pole/ - https://news.mongabay.com/2024/08/animal-apocalypse-deadly-bird-flu-infects-hundreds-of-species-pole-to-pole/ or https://news.mongabay.com/2024/08/animal-apocalypse-deadly-bird-flu-infects-hundreds-of-species-pole-to-pole/ ;

  • The world is currently seeing the fastest-spreading, largest-ever outbreak of H5N1, a highly contagious, deadly strain of avian influenza. Scientists say this virus now presents an existential threat to the world’s biodiversity, with the risk to humans rising as it continues to leap the species barrier, reaching new host species.
  • H5N1 has already impacted at least 485 bird species and 48 mammal species, killing seals, sea otters, dolphins, foxes, California condors, albatrosses, bald eagles, cougars, polar bears and a zoo tiger. Since it broke out in Europe in 2020, this virus has spread globally. Carried by birds along migratory pathways, it has invaded six continents, including Antarctica.
  • This current H5N1 animal pandemic (or panzootic) was caused by humans: A mild form of avian flu carried by wild birds turned deadly when it infected domestic poultry. Many industrial-scale poultry farms adjoin wetlands where migrating birds congregate, facilitating rapid spread.
  • The toll on some bird and mammal populations has been devastating. With continued outbreaks, some imperiled species could be pushed to the brink, with wildlife already fighting to survive against a changing climate, disappearing habitat and other stressors.

DJ; The article underlines an urgent need for "One Health"; What happens in wildlife will reach humans...And -YES- that means a lot of money may be needed to increase testing/prevention of diseases in wildlife before they become a pandemic risk...

However at present-reactive instead of prevention-we end up with even higher costs trying to limit diseases when they spread in humans...

The timeline of H5N1 coincides with CoViD becoming a global problem...it may have been around for a while...(Wuhan military games october 2019 a mass spread event..). 

African Swine Fever (ASF) was a global issue before CoViD became one...did we miss corona infections in pigs suffering from ASF ????

CoViD -undermining immunity-may be the basis for H5N1 spread in humans...but do we "miss the link"?  Events seldom are isolated-part of a chain reaction-the one following the other...If you do not stop a system creating these pandemics you are not stopping pandemics...


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 11:22pm
DJ-I was wondering if there was more info on;

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Minnesota health officials investigating after five children fall ill from raw milk

The link https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-health-officials-investigating-after-five-children-fall-ill-from-raw-milk/600293542 - https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-health-officials-investigating-after-five-children-fall-ill-from-raw-milk/600293542 or https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-health-officials-investigating-after-five-children-fall-ill-from-raw-milk/600293542 ;State health officials are investigating  https://www.health.state.mn.us/news/pressrel/2023/salmonella072723.html - a cluster of salmonella cases  in the Twin Cities involving five children who tested positive for the bacteria, one of whom was hospitalized.

DJ-already had the answer; salmonella NOT H5N1 spreading via raw milk...

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The risk of humans to be infected by https://x.com/hashtag/H5N1?src=hashtag_click - #H5N1 has ⬆️ exponentially over past year. Opportunity to ⬇️ risk is shrinking exponentially as well. It’s important to prepare now for a global, equitable https://x.com/hashtag/100DayMission?src=hashtag_click - #100DayMission response.

DJ, My view; we need to rethink foodproduction-could do with leas meat/dairy ! Less farmanimals = decreasing pandemic risks...

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link; https://www.thestar.com.my/news/focus/2024/07/31/a-pandemic-unfolding-in-slow-motion - https://www.thestar.com.my/news/focus/2024/07/31/a-pandemic-unfolding-in-slow-motion or https://www.thestar.com.my/news/focus/2024/07/31/a-pandemic-unfolding-in-slow-motion ;

SCIENTISTS tracking the spread of bird flu are increasingly concerned that gaps in surveillance may keep them several steps behind a new pandemic, according to interviews with more than a dozen leading disease experts.

Many of them have been monitoring the new subtype of H5N1 avian flu in migratory birds since 2020. But the spread of the virus to 129 dairy herds in 12 US states signals a change that could bring it closer to becoming transmissible between humans.

Infections also have been found in other mammals, from alpacas to house cats.

“It almost seems like a pandemic unfolding in slow motion,” said Scott Hensley, a professor of microbiology at the University of Pennsylvania. “Right now, the threat is pretty low... but that could change in a heartbeat.”


DJ "The threat is pretty low" but we do not have enough data...crowd-control NOT science !
Indications are there may be 4 to 15 times more H5N1 cases going undetected...So the US has 13 known 2024 cases...A max of maybe close to 200 cases may be missed...

The chances of humans or other species developing a mutation/change in H5N1 resulting in "better/more" spread and/or severe illness is growing by the day...

The upcoming pandemic is unfolding in slow motion is HIGH RISK !!!!!


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2024 at 9:58pm
Death of 63-year-old woman in China, due to co-infection with human H3N2 + avian H10N5. First reported human infection with H10N5. Clinical presentation = flu like symptoms. Exposure to duck meat, 7 samples +ve for H10N5 + 2 +ve for N5. 👉 https://t.co/lsM60nAcvp - We read with interest a recent paper in Journal of  https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/immunology-and-microbiology - Microbiology Immunology and  Infection that reported Human infection caused by  https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/avian-influenza - avian influenza  A (H10N5) virus in China. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1684118224001191#bib1 - - 1  Although  https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/avian-influenza-virus - avian influenza viruses  (AIVs) have a diverse range of hosts, human infections with avian influenza are typically associated with subtypes such as H5Nx,  https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/influenza-a-virus-h7n9 - H7N9 , and  https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/influenza-a-virus-h9n2 - H9N2 . https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1684118224001191#bib2 - - 2 , https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1684118224001191#bib3 - - 3  However, on January 27, 2024, the World Health Organization (WHO) reported the death of a 63-year-old woman in Anhui Province, China, due to co-infection with  https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/seasonal-influenza - seasonal influenza  A (H3N2) subtype virus and avian  https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/influenza-a - influenza A  (H10N5) subtype virus. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1684118224001191#bib4 - - 4  Undoubtedly, this is the first time that human infection with H10N5 occurred.

DJ, Two remarkable events; 
-co-infection with two types of flu may not be that rare; H3N2 is a "normal flu"
-H10N5 is not seen in humans...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu - Spanish flu
H5N2 H5N3 H5N6 H5N8 H5N9 H6N1 H7N1 H7N2 H7N3 H7N4 H7N7 H7N9 H9N2 H10N3 H10N7 H10N8 H11N2 H11N9 H1N1 H5N1 H5N8 
DJ as known risks...H10N3 did infect a Chinese in 2021, H10N7 did infect two children in Egypt in 2004...


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Date Posted: 10 Aug 2024 at 10:57pm
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The worry with H5N1 bird flu is that it will recombine with a seasonal flu & become more transmissible and be a novel severe flu that transmits easily in humans. And now colorado has a case of variant H3N2 in July at a county fair, while 60% of our dairy herds have H5N1. 😬

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-Does H3N2 "combine/mix" better than other types of human flu ? 
-CoViD links? Does CoViD increase risks of all kinds of flu mixing in hosts (human or other animal)? 
-How many cases of "mix" we may miss ? Very likely lots of flu in (other) animals not even noticed...

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/michigan-hhs-reports-1-novel-h3n2v-flu.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/michigan-hhs-reports-1-novel-h3n2v-flu.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/michigan-hhs-reports-1-novel-h3n2v-flu.html ;

Yesterday in their weekly  https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm - FluView Report  the  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/cdc-fluview-week-31-1-novel-h3n2v.html - CDC reported a novel (H3N2v) flu infection  from Colorado, in an individual who had recently attended an agricultural exhibit. This was the 4th swine variant case reported by the CDC in 2024, although due to limited testing and surveillance, this is expected to be an undercount. 

Although it wasn't included in the CDC report, Michigan also reported a novel flu case (h/t Lisa Schnirring @  https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/h3n2v-influenza/colorado-michigan-report-h3n2v-flu-infections - CIDRAP News ) in July.  While the investigation is still ongoing, this patient had no known contact with swine. 

Most swine variant infections are linked - either directly or indirectly - to exposure to pigs, although occasionally we see one where no such connection can be made.  

While their health department believes this is likely an isolated incident, they are advising people with flu-like symptoms to get tested for both COVID and Influenza.

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It is probably no accident that the two novel swine flu viruses reported this week have come from the two states in the country (Colorado & Michigan) that are currently doing the most aggressive testing for H5N1.   

As we've seen previously (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/03/uk-novel-flu-surveillance-quantifying.html - UK Novel Flu Surveillance: Quantifying TTD ), passive surveillance is apt to miss a lot of cases. 

This is the 3rd report of H3N2v we've from Ingram County over the past dozen years (see 2012's  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2012/08/michigan-reports-their-first-h3n2v-case.html - Michigan Reports Their First H3N2v Case  and 2016's  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2016/08/michigan-h3n2v-cases-rise-to-8.html - Michigan H3N2v Cases Rise To 8 ). 

The 2016 outbreak was significant, as 18 cases were identified across 2 states (Michigan & Ohio), and 16 of those cases were caused by a reassorted virus, one with an HA gene not previously seen in swine.  

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In 2017, the last year to report a large number of H3N2v infections,  https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pdf/IR-003Rev0D-CDC-IRAT-Virus-Report_NAm-H3N2v_2019.pdf - the CDC reported  `. . . sixty-two human infections with influenza A(H3N2)v virus were reported from nine different states and were closely related to the viruses detected in human infections in 2016 [2, 3].

Since then, only 11 H3N2v cases have been reported to the CDC.  It will be interesting to see how closely this Michigan case matches the 2016 strain. 

While IRAT can't predict which virus will become a pandemic strain (or when), it can help planners decide which viruses pose the greatest risks, so they can prioritize their efforts and investments.


And it should also remind us that H5N1 isn't the only game in town. 

DJ, Even-in history-the Spanish Flu (1917-1923) was a "mild pandemic" "only killing 5% of the global population" (highest estimates). 

Climate collapse, overpopulation-with most humans in mega-cities-and a worsening health crisis can kill 50%+ of all humans ? Or (indirect) 90-95% ? 

Pandemics were one of the reasons for the end of both the West and East Roman Empire...Ending a civilization always is a combination of factors; most often including also a food crisis/weather-climate links...

In the 2D world "here & now" lots of people hardly knew what the world looked like in the year 2000...The damage pandemics can do is beyond their imagination AND "interest"...

The reason why "we" do not learn a thing from history is we do not want to learn a thing from history...


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2024 at 10:50pm
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Definitely time to repost this. Pigs are ASYMPTOMATIC WITH H5N1. And there is no comprehensive testing program.

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“No infected pig had influenza-like symptoms, indicating that influenza A (H5N1) viruses can replicate undetected for prolonged periods, facilitating avian virus adaptation to mammalian hosts” Pigs do not show any signs of H5N1 which is concerning now that USDA and CFIA are finally realizing how widespread the spread is in cattle. https://t.co/lR1rKjkZTJ -
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Pigs are a highly probable recombinant mammal for human to human transmission.
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Testing. Which they’re not doing widescale in pigs.
DJ...so "saving the economy" after CoViD, Mpox now also H5N1 can become a pandemic..."only profits matter"...

https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3294999/ - https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3294999/   or https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3294999/ ;

Pigs have long been considered potential intermediate hosts in which avian influenza viruses can adapt to humans. To determine whether this potential exists for pigs in Indonesia, we conducted surveillance during 2005–2009. We found that 52 pigs in 4 provinces were infected during 2005–2007 but not 2008–2009. Phylogenetic analysis showed that the viruses had been introduced into the pig population in Indonesia on at least 3 occasions. One isolate had acquired the ability to recognize a human-type receptor. No infected pig had influenza-like symptoms, indicating that influenza A (H5N1) viruses can replicate undetected for prolonged periods, facilitating avian virus adaptation to mammalian hosts. Our data suggest that pigs are at risk for infection during outbreaks of influenza virus A (H5N1) and can serve as intermediate hosts in which this avian virus can adapt to mammals.

DJ-A 2010 (!!!!!) study ! Maybe ignored-by the west-because it came from Indonesia ? 


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2024 at 11:13pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/something-winged-this-way-comes.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/something-winged-this-way-comes.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/something-winged-this-way-comes.html ;

Prior to 2021, North America only had one brush with HPAI H5; an avian epizootic that began in December of 2014 and eventually infected poultry in 15 states.  

That H5Nx virus, however, was ill-suited for long-term carriage in wild and migratory birds, and disappeared the following summer (see http://afludiary.blogspot.com/2016/07/pnas-enigma-of-disappearing-hpai-h5-in.html -  PNAS: The Enigma Of Disappearing HPAI H5 In North American Migratory Waterfowl).

Since then, HPAI H5 has undergone many changes (via reassortment), has switched from an H5N8 to an H5N1 subtype, and has greatly expanded both its mammalian and avian host ranges.  

It now persists (at low levels) in wild birds even through the summer months, and new waves of infection are expected when migratory birds return from their high latitude nesting places this fall. 

Exactly what returns this fall is unknown, as the virus has had numerous opportunities to reassort or mutate over the summer.  We could see something worse, or if we get very lucky, an attenuated threat (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2016/08/sci-repts-southward-autumn-migration-of.html - Sci Repts.: Southward Autumn Migration Of Waterfowl Facilitates Transmission Of HPAI H5N1 ).

It is also possible that other subtypes - such as H5N5 or H5N6 - will play a bigger role this winter (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cell-reports-multiple-transatlantic.html - Cell Reports: Multiple Transatlantic Incursions of HPAI clade 2.3.4.4b A(H5N5) Virus into North America and Spillover to Mammals ).

The ability to continually reinvent itself is influenza A's superpower.  And as avian H5Nx conquers more of the world, it has increased opportunities to reassort with new viruses, producing diverse offspring with unpredictable impacts.  

As the graphic at the top of this blog indicates, the fall migration has already begun in North America, although it won't peak for several months.  This is, however, the time of year when  https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/defend-the-flock - poultry producers - and others - should be increasing their biosecurity efforts.  

One of the publicly available tools that we can use to track bird migration comes from the  http://birdcast.info/ - Birdcast.info  website, which uses weather radar, and advanced forecasting methods to track birds. This website is a joint venture by The Cornell LabColorado State University, and U Mass Amherst, and supported by a large number of partners. 

The graphic and https://birdcast.info/news/the-first-billion-bird-night-6-7-october-2023/ -  news story  below - from October of 2023 - shows > https://birdcast.info/news/the-first-billion-bird-night-6-7-october-2023/ -  1 billion birds https://birdcast.info/news/the-first-billion-bird-night-6-7-october-2023/ -  on the move  in a single night. 

DJ, "Flu is airborne" via wild birds....

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/updated-joint-faowhowoah-assessment-of.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/updated-joint-faowhowoah-assessment-of.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/updated-joint-faowhowoah-assessment-of.html ;

Today FAO/WHO/WOAH issued a joint statement - based on data as of July 18, 2024 - indicating that the threat from HPAI H5N1 to general public remains low, although the risks for occupationally exposed persons ranges from low to moderate depending on the risk mitigation measures in place.

This is essentially the same level of risk we've seen from the CDC and the ECDC. 


DJ, Problem is they increase level of risk AFTER lots of cases show up in humans....
The risk posed by these viruses requires vigilance and close monitoring. It remains essential that occupationally exposed persons are provided with and trained in the use of personal protective equipment and that mitigation measures to reduce animal to animal transmission, animal to human transmission and environmental contamination are in place in affected settings.

DJ, Flu may spread in lots of ways...the by now known routes may not be the routes with highest risks....

We HAVE TO change the way we live....!!! We keep offering free flights for all kinds of diseases all over the globe...There is NO WAY we can get any kind of control on pandemics if we do not change the way we live....

In Dutch; "Dweilen met de kraan open"=mopping with the tap open....


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2024 at 10:30pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/nature-reverse-zoonosis-of-20222023.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/nature-reverse-zoonosis-of-20222023.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/nature-reverse-zoonosis-of-20222023.html ;

Earlier this week the journal Nature published a report on multiple detections of the recent (2022-2023) H3N2 human seasonal flu virus circulating in pigs, a result of reverse zoonosis.  

This type of spillover is a concern since it not only poses a risk to swine production, it could also lead to the emergence of new (and potentially more dangerous) swine variant viruses. 


DJ, So human H3N2 flu ended up in pigs...Pigs can have H5N1 infection without symptoms...Given pigs eat eveything there should NOT be any question on H5N1 in pigs being widespread...and untested...

So "welcome new flu virus" 
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DJ...the major problem is human inaction...Again governments may wait for the WHO...While the WHO is under control -and financed- by governments...

Blame games and buying time worsens crises...We are becoming champions in creating pandemics by now...


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2024 at 2:28am
https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/welcome-to-the-scientific-library/surveillance-and-epidemic-control/995370-sci-rep-adaptation-potential-of-h3n8-canine-influenza-virus-in-human-respiratory-cells - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/welcome-to-the-scientific-library/surveillance-and-epidemic-control/995370-sci-rep-adaptation-potential-of-h3n8-canine-influenza-virus-in-human-respiratory-cells   or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/welcome-to-the-scientific-library/surveillance-and-epidemic-control/995370-sci-rep-adaptation-potential-of-h3n8-canine-influenza-virus-in-human-respiratory-cells ;

Sci Rep . Adaptation potential of H3N8 canine influenza virus in human respiratory cells

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doi: 10.1038/s41598-024-69509-x. Adaptation potential of H3N8 canine influenza virus in human respiratory cells

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Sekine+W&cauthor_id=39138310 - Wataru Sekine   https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39138310/#full-view-affiliation-1 - 1  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Kamiki+H&cauthor_id=39138310 - Haruhiko Kamiki   https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39138310/#full-view-affiliation-1 - 1  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Ishida+H&cauthor_id=39138310 - Hiroho Ishida   https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39138310/#full-view-affiliation-1 - 1  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39138310/#full-view-affiliation-2 - 2  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Matsugo+H&cauthor_id=39138310 - Hiromichi Matsugo   https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39138310/#full-view-affiliation-1 - 1  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39138310/#full-view-affiliation-3 - 3  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Ohira+K&cauthor_id=39138310 - Kosuke Ohira   https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39138310/#full-view-affiliation-1 - 1  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Li+K&cauthor_id=39138310 - Kaixin Li   https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39138310/#full-view-affiliation-1 - 1  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Katayama+M&cauthor_id=39138310 - Misa Katayama   https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39138310/#full-view-affiliation-1 - 1  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Takenaka-Uema+A&cauthor_id=39138310 - Akiko Takenaka-Uema   https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39138310/#full-view-affiliation-1 - 1  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Murakami+S&cauthor_id=39138310 - Shin Murakami   https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39138310/#full-view-affiliation-1 - 1  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Horimoto+T&cauthor_id=39138310 - Taisuke Horimoto   https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39138310/#full-view-affiliation-4 - 4



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  • PMCID:  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc11322661/ - PMC11322661
  • DOI:  https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-024-69509-x - 10.1038/s41598-024-69509-x
Abstract

In 2004, the equine-origin H3N8 canine influenza virus (CIV) first caused an outbreak with lethal cases in racing greyhounds in Florida, USA, and then spread to domestic dogs nationwide. 

Although transmission of this canine virus to humans has not been reported, it is important to evaluate its zoonotic potential because of the high contact opportunities between companion dogs and humans. 

To gain insight into the interspecies transmissibility of H3N8 CIV, we tested its adaptability to human respiratory A549 cells through successive passages. We found that CIV acquired high growth properties in these cells mainly through mutations in surface glycoproteins, such as hemagglutinin (HA) and neuraminidase (NA). 

Our reverse genetics approach revealed that HA2-K82E, HA2-R163K, and NA-S18L mutations were responsible for the increased growth of CIV in human cells. Molecular analyses revealed that both HA2 mutations altered the optimum pH for HA membrane fusion activity and that the NA mutation changed the HA-NA functional balance. 

These findings suggest that H3N8 CIV could evolve into a human pathogen with pandemic potential through a small number of mutations, thereby posing a threat to public health in the future.
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H3N8 is a subtype of the species  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus - Influenza A virus  that is endemic in birds, horses and dogs. It is the main cause of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equine_influenza - equine influenza  and is also known as equine influenza virus. In 2011, it was reported to have been found in seals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H3N8#cite_note-1 -  Cats have been experimentally infected with the virus, leading to clinical signs, shedding of the virus and infection of other cats. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H3N8#cite_note-2 -  In 2022 and 2023, three people in China were infected with H3N8, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H3N8#cite_note-3rdcase-3 -  with one fatality, marking the first time a human has died from this strain of flu. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H3N8#cite_note-4 -

Because we are NOT stopping anything at the moment...often not even testing !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 11:11pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-large-scale-computational.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-large-scale-computational.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-large-scale-computational.html ;

The Expanding host range of HPAI H5N1

Influenza viruses evolve via two well established routes; Antigenic drift & Antigenic Shift (reassortment).

  • Antigenic drift causes small, incremental changes in the virus over time. Drift is the standard evolutionary process of influenza viruses, and often come about due to replication errors that are common with single-strand RNA viruses (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug-M1nIhfIA&t=2s -   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug-M1nIhfIA&t=2s - NIAID Video: Antigenic Drift ) or due to  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2019/05/j-gen-virology-mutations-in-pb2-and-ha.html - host adaptation . 
  • Shift occurs when one virus swap out chunks of their genetic code with gene segments from another virus.  This is known as reassortment. While far less common than drift, shift can produce abrupt, dramatic, and sometimes pandemic inducing changes to the virus (see  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdFCx8jbesQ - NIAID Video: How Influenza Pandemics Occur ).

In either case, most mutations/reassortments are evolutionary failures.

They die out quickly because they are not as biologically `fit’ as the parental virus they must compete with. Only rarely does a mutation convey enough of an evolutionary advantage to allow it to become `fixed' in a host, and potentially transmitted onward.

While reassortment gets most of our attention due to its ability to change a virus radically overnight, antigenic drift - over years or decades - can eventually produce more `pandemic ready' viruses as well. 

We've been following the evolution and spread of HPAI H5 viruses now for more than two decades. The H5N1 threat isn't from a single viral entity, however, but rather from a diverse and growing array of genetically similar viruses. 

As a result the H5N1 viruses circulating in the United States or Europe today are genetically distinct from the H5N1 viruses of the past, and even those currently circulating in Peru, Japan, or the Middle East.

Since 2020 a new clade 2.3.4.4b H5N1 virus became dominant, and it - and its variants - have shown an enhanced ability to spill over into mammals around the globe (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/eid-journal-highly-pathogenic-avian.html - here ,  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/eid-journal-hpai-ah5n1-virus-clade.html - here ,  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/two-eid-journal-dispatches-on-h5n1-in.html - here,  and  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/emerg-microb-inf-high-number-of-hpai-h5.html - here ).   One  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-enhanced-replication-of.html - genotype (B3.13)  has spilled over into American Dairy cows.

This clade has also greatly expanded its host range in birds (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2022/07/defra-unprecedented-order-shift-in-wild.html - DEFRA: The Unprecedented `Order Shift' In Wild Bird H5N1 Positives In Europe & The UK ).

At the same time, we are seeing far fewer, and often less severe, human infections from HPAI H5N1.  While the `right' reassortment could conceivably spark a pandemic, the $64 question remains; is HPAI H5 - in general - evolving towards becoming a bigger pandemic threat over time?

We've a preprint today that attempts to answer that question using large-scale computational modeling of H5 Influenza variants.  This in silico analysis by researchers at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, finds reasons to believe it is. 

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In this study, we computationally model 1,804 protein complexes consisting of various H5 isolates from 1959 to 2024 against 11 HA1-neutralizing antibodies. This study shows a trend of weakening of the binding affinity of existing antibodies against H5 isolates over time, indicating that the H5N1 virus is evolving immune escape of our medical defenses.
We also found that based on the wide variety of host species and geographic locations in which H5N1 was observed to have been transmitted from birds to mammals, there is not a single central reservoir host species or location associated with H5N1's spread.
These results indicate that the virus is well on its way to moving from epidemic to pandemic status in the near future. This study illustrates the value of high-performance computing to rapidly model protein-protein interactions and viral genomic sequence data at-scale for functional insights into medical preparedness.
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While we are concentrating primarily on the bovine B3.13 H5N1 virus right now, the reality is there are multiple subtypesnumerous clades and subclades, and hundreds of genotypes of HPAI H5 circulating - often outside of our view - all around the world.  

Any one of them is potentially only a few mutations, or a single fortuitous reassortment, away from cracking the code to make it more transmissible in humans. 

That may take years to happen, and it is even possible there is  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2014/07/are-influenza-pandemic-viruses-members.html - some unknown `species barrier'  that protects us.  But HPAI H5 has time on its side, and an enormous (and growing) array of genetic material to tinker with, which gives it an edge. 

And if HPAI H5 ultimately fails, well . . .  there are a plethora of avian, swine, and canine flu viruses with zoonotic potential in the wings (see  https://www.cdc.gov/pandemic-flu/php/national-strategy/influenza-risk-assessment-tool.html - CDC IRAT List ).  

Any of which could leap ahead of the queue without warning. 
DJ, I am not any kind of expert...A virus needs receptors to get into a host...And humans/mammals have different kinds of receptors...Eyes may offer a way in for the cattle H5N1 into farm workers...Cow udders and human eyes turned out to have the same sort of receptor-cells. 

A statistician might be able to make good calculations on the pandemic risks for a H5 type of flu and its effects....Even with a lot of unknown factors that what is known should alarm us all !

Masks, eye protection offers protection against lots of diseases...we may have ended up in a pandemic age...with no return to pre-pandemic soon...


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2024 at 10:50pm
DJ, A 10th 2024 Cambodia H5N1 case...(I made it a different latest news post) https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/cambodia-reports-10th-h5n1-case-of-2024.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/cambodia-reports-10th-h5n1-case-of-2024.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/cambodia-reports-10th-h5n1-case-of-2024.html ;

Although Cambodia continues to do an admirable job of reporting these hospitalized cases, it is entirely possible that some milder infections are going unreported. Severe or critical cases are far more likely to be hospitalized, tested, and confirmed as H5N1 positive.

While we are understandably focused on H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b - clade 2.3.2.1c in Cambodia, the recently  https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2024-DON519 - imported (ex India) clade  https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2024-DON519 - 2.3.2.1a case in Australia , and  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/who-wpro-reports-2nd-h5n6-case-in.html - > 90 H5N6 cases in China  - remind us that HPAI H5 continues to evolve along multiple concurrent pathways.

DJ, "News' on new H5N1 cases in the US is now "under control"...maybe the US just stopped testing for it ? 

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-recent-bovine-hpai-h5n1.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-recent-bovine-hpai-h5n1.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-recent-bovine-hpai-h5n1.html ;
Ten days ago, in  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/colorado-cmva-statement-on-influenza.html - Colorado: CVMA Statement On Influenza A (HPAI H5N1) in Domestic cats , we looked at an all-too-common report of cats infected with HPAI H5 that presented with both respiratory symptoms and severe neurological impairment

While occasional neurological involvement with H5N1 infection has been reported over the past 20 years, prior to 2020 it was considered a fairly unusual occurrence.

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Although we are currently focused on the bovine (B3.13) genotype of H5N1, there are literally dozens of genotypes of H5N1 in circulation around the world, with more being added over time. 

And as we've discussed previously, even minor genetic variations between viruses can produce vastly different characteristics (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2012/04/differences-in-virulence-between.html - Differences In Virulence Between Closely Related H5N1 Strains ) 

While we may be comforted by the lack of severe H5N1 infection in the United States, the virus continues to rapidly evolve, making past performance no guarantee of future results. 


DJ...So "the world" may go for "Flu-Rona" ??? All kinds of flu mixing/co-spreading with CoViD ? Resulting in further increase of excess deaths...

With all kinds of governments health agencies switching base lines to deny reality ? 

DJ-We are in the age of insanity....If you even -in fact- give up on basic testing and reporting you will not even know the scale of the problem...just try to get it under the carpet....

That (lack of) strategy is crazy...making matters into "genocide by pandemic"....

https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2024/08/articles/animals/cats/h5n1-influenza-in-cats-in-colorado/ - https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2024/08/articles/animals/cats/h5n1-influenza-in-cats-in-colorado/ or https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2024/08/articles/animals/cats/h5n1-influenza-in-cats-in-colorado/ 

DJ-I may start another item on the role pets may play....




Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2024 at 12:01am
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DJ, The largest risks are from NOT testing...so NO sequencing...
By now there may be 100+ human H5N1 cases around the globe...The US-cattle linked ones are supposed to be "mild" so NO testing & reporting...

With CoViD also exploding the ideal basis for Flu-Rona coinfections...

Excess deaths will go up...but changing definitions will not show that...

So the main policy is do not test, do not tell...keep "the news" under control...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2024 at 1:03pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/j-infection-surveillance-of-avian.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/j-infection-surveillance-of-avian.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/j-infection-surveillance-of-avian.html;

As we've discussed previously (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2014/07/are-influenza-pandemic-viruses-members.html - Are Influenza Pandemic Viruses Members Of An Exclusive Club? ), what happened prior to 1900 is pretty murky, but the pattern over the past 130 years appears to have been H2, H3, H1, H2, H3, H1, H1 . . . .

Assuming this pattern holds - and a novel H5 or H7 virus doesn't intervene - then we might expect to see an H2 or H3 virus emerge next.  

At least twice in my lifetime (1957 & 1968) an avian flu virus has reassorted with the current seasonal flu, to produce a new pandemic virus. 
  • The first (1957) was H2N2, which  https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemic.html#:~:text=In%20February%201957%2C%20a%20new,and%20the%20N2%20neuraminidase%20genes. - according to the CDC  `. . . was comprised of three different genes from an H2N2 virus that originated from an avian influenza A virus, including the H2 hemagglutinin and the N2 neuraminidase genes.'
  • In 1968 an avian H3N2 virus emerged ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7144439/ - a reassortment  of 2 genes from a low path avian influenza H3 virus, and 6 genes from H2N2) which supplanted H2N2 - killed more than a million people during its first year - and continues to spark yearly epidemics more than 55 years later.

While we could seen an H1, H2, or H3 virus emerge  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/cdc-fluview-week-33-2-additional-novel.html - from swine , marine mammals, horses,  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/nature-adaptation-potential-of-h3n8.html - or even dogs , the biggest and most dynamic reservoir are birds.  And for a variety of reasons, China continues to be a fertile breeding ground for viral reassortment (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2014/01/viral-reassortants-rocking-cradle-of.html - Rocking The Cradle Of Influenza ).

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Today we can add another, which discusses the first detection of a novel H3N2 reassortant virus in Northern China (one which was previously  https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2023.2287683 - reported in poultry in Jiangsu Province ).  

This reassortant is concerning since its HA comes from the  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/03/china-guangdong-cdc-reporting-1-h3n8.html - H3N8 virus which has spilled over into humans at least 3 times  in recent years, its  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/frontiers-phylogenetic-and-mutational.html - NA comes from the H10N3 virus  which has also infected humans, and its  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/who-india-reports-2nd-h9n2-case.html - internal genes are from the H9N2 virus,  which has infected > 130 people over the past 2 decades.

The fact that it has now been found in Northern China suggests it may have been carried in by migratory birds.  In addition to this novel H3N3 virus, this survey found many of the `usual suspects'  (H3, H5, H7, H9, etc.) among the 6,000 samples analysed. 

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Although we get very little in the way of real-time reporting on avian flu out of China, their scientists  continue to publish excellent (albeit, often belated) reports in the scientific journals.  

The overarching message from these reports is that avian influenza viruses continue to expand - both in range and variety - across China, and that some of these viruses pose legitimate public health risks. 

While most will end up as evolutionary failures, we need to pay attention, because it only take one over-achiever to send us down the pandemic path again.

DJ, So a H3N8 and H10N3 flu virus got mixed (in a bird) and resulted in a high risk H3N3 flu virus...

Again-if this H3N3 "find ways" to co-spread with CoViD "we have a very serious problem"!

But so far the H3N3 may have ended up in North China poultry...not-yet-in humans...


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Date Posted: 27 Aug 2024 at 10:06pm
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No matter the menu, some dairy workers at the event said they don’t exactly feel appreciated. They said they haven’t received any personal protective equipment beyond gloves to guard against the virus, even as they or colleagues have come down with conjunctivitis and flu-like symptoms that they fear to be bird flu.

“They should give us something more,” one dairy worker from Larimer County said in Spanish. He spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear he’d lose his job for speaking out. “What if something happens to us? They act as if nothing is wrong.”

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Concerns are growing about  https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/bird-flu-undetected-farmworkers-testing-contagious-mammals/ - undiagnosed illness among farmworkers  because of a lack of testing and safety precautions. One reason for concern: Bird flu and seasonal flu are capable of  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-34611-z - gene trading , so if they ended up in the same body at the same time, bird flu might end up with genes that boost its contagiousness. The virus doesn’t appear to be spreading easily between people yet. That could change, and if people aren’t being tested then health officials may be slow to notice.

Strains of seasonal flu already  https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/flu.htm - kill some 47,000 people  in the U.S. a year. Public health officials fear the havoc a new form of the flu could wreak if it spreads among people.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that dairy workers don a respirator and goggles or a face shield,  https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/prevention/farm-workers.html - among other protections , whether they are working with sick animals or not.


DJ, Again-the only thing under control is the "news"....

Both farm-workers and farmers need better government policies. We have to decrease farm animals and replace meat/milk with plant-based alternatives...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2024 at 1:56am
India; https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/india/h5n1-tracking-ah/india-tracking-by-state-territory/orissa/995918-human-case-of-bird-flu-detected-in-odisha - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/india/h5n1-tracking-ah/india-tracking-by-state-territory/orissa/995918-human-case-of-bird-flu-detected-in-odisha   or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/india/h5n1-tracking-ah/india-tracking-by-state-territory/orissa/995918-human-case-of-bird-flu-detected-in-odisha ;

Human bird flu case detected in Puri: Odisha Health Minister



Bhubaneswar: The Odisha Health department has detected a human case of bird flu in Odisha’s Puri district. According to state Health Minister Dr. Mukesh Mahaling, the case was found in the Mangalpur Community Health Center (CHC) of Puri district.

Meanwhile, the Health department has intensified its surveillance and monitoring efforts in the affected areas, especially in the Pipili and Satyabadi blocks, where an H5N1 outbreak is currently being closely observed.

Dr Mahaling said, “We have received a report of a human case of bird flu detected at Mangalpur CHC in Puri district.”
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To date, approximately 25,000 birds have been culled as part of the containment measures.”

Director of Public Health Nilakantha Mishra said, “Thousands of chickens are dying due to the spread of bird flu in chickens. Samples are being collected from people working in poultry farms and keeping chickens in their homes. A sample was collected from another poultry farm worker after he developed symptoms of cold and it has been sent to RMRC.
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DJ, more people getting tested ?


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2024 at 3:29am
DJ; This may all turn out to be false alarm, but local officials are quite obviously taking it seriously.

Stay tuned. 


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Overnight the Indian media has been filled with excited - and in some cases, inconsistent -  https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/human-case-of-bird-flu-detected-in-odisha-heres-what-are-the-symptoms-and-precautions-you-should-follow/articleshow/112853808.cms?from=mdr - reports  of 1 or more human infections with `bird flu' (subtypes mentioned are H1N1 & H9N2) detected in the Puri district of Odisha, which  https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/odisha-to-cull-20000-birds-in-response-to-avian-flu-outbreak/articleshow/112823703.cms - is currently dealing with an H5N1 outbreak in poultry.  

It isn't at all clear whether any of these cases have actually tested positive for avian influenza - or of what subtype - although samples have reportedly been sent to Pune for further analysis. 

India has previously reported  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/who-india-reports-2nd-h9n2-case.html - 2 H9N2 cases  (2019 & 2024), https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/human-infection-with-avian-influenza-a%28h5n1%29-%EF%BD%B0-india -  1 case of H5N1  in 2021, and was the apparent source of  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/05/australia-victoria-reports-imported.html - an exported case of H5N1  (in a child) who traveled to Australia last March.  Over the years there have been other suspected cases, but none were officially confirmed. 

While the facts of these suspected cases are (for now) uncertain, it is clear something is going on, as  https://x.com/HFWOdisha - Odisha's Directorate of Health  has issued a barrage of documents over the past few hours pertaining to the investigation, and their response. 

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In the past few hours these directives have been issued, both marked Top Most Urgent.  The second one references `suspected human cases'. 

DJ, for now info very unclear...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2024 at 12:32pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/vet-quarterly-hpai-virus-h5n1-clade.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/vet-quarterly-hpai-virus-h5n1-clade.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/vet-quarterly-hpai-virus-h5n1-clade.html ;

Up until a couple of months ago, rodents had never been included in the  https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/mammals - USDA's list of mammalian wildlife  infected with H5N1 (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/usda-adds-house-mouse-to-mammals.html - USDA Adds House Mouse To Mammals Affected by H5N1) . Since early June we've seen nearly 100 rodents (house mouse, deer mice) added to the list, and they now comprise over 25% of all of the confirmed mammals on the list. 

Over the past few months we've also  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/usda-adds-4-new-species-deer-mice.html - seen the addition  of domestic cats (n=37), prairie voles (n=1), and desert cottontails (n=1) to the list. HPAI H5 continues to expand its host range in mammals, and surveillance likely only picks up a small fraction of these spillover events.   

Earlier this month, in  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/nature-decoding-rna-viromes-in-shrew.html - Nature: Decoding the RNA Viromes in Shrew Lungs Along the Eastern Coast of China , we looked at a study that found a wide range of zoonotic viruses - including HPAI H5N6 - in shrews.  Previously, in 2015's  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2015/05/taking-hpai-to-bank-vole.html - Taking HPAI To The Bank (Vole) , we looked at that species' susceptibility to both H5N1 and H7N1.

While they haven't gotten the attention they probably deserve, rodents - which are often abundant around poultry and dairy farms - likely contribute to the spread of HPAI viruses (see 2016's  https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01652176.2017.1325537 - The role of rodents in avian influenza outbreaks in poultry farms: a review ).

All of which makes it less-than-surprising that researchers have now reported finding HPAI H5N1 in wild rats in Egypt.  Given recent detections in deer mice in the U.S., it is probably safe to assume this is not a rare occurrence. 

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Given the amount of HPAI H5 virus already circulating in birds, cattle, and an array of mammalian species, the addition of rats (in Egypt) or deer mice in Colorado is probably not a game changer, but it is another sign that the virus is becoming increasingly entrenched in our environment. 

What that will look like a year or two from now is anyone's guess. 

But we ignore this trend at considerable risk to our food supply, our economy, and potentially to our public health.  

DJ, The study is based on samples from 2023....So very likely H5N1 by now is spread even further...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2024 at 11:20pm
DJ, As far as I know US human H5N1 cases still at 13 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Human_cases - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Human_cases   or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Human_cases ...

So the "main-stream-media-liars" do a good job in -again-hiding real numbers...Statistics "rules" indicate on the "info" 4 to 15 times the "official lie" could give a hint; So a more realistic estimate for the US would in between 4x13=52 and 15x13=195...however time and spread by now will mean numbers very likely (a lot) higher...

The US "form" of human H5N1 infection itself -mostly-seems to be mild. However a mix with H3N2, H1N1 or other types of flu does increase risks...

Not only for more severe disease in humans but also for more spread in other animals...

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"...there is little being done to control the virus or to provide adequate protection “to people who work closely with infected animals.” He said he worried that when “fall and winter months arrive, there will be increased risk of having avian and human flu viruses mix. ... It’s critical that we have a stringent surveillance and testing program in place for animals and people before the flu season arrives.”"

DJ, Mexico does import cattle from the US, raw milk-US-consumption in Mexico is higher...a lot of farm workers exploited in the US may not even speak Spanish-deported back to Latin America if they get ill...

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The India H5N1 story still is "unclear"...Cambodia has a lot of (older variant) H5N1-bringing more severe diseases...

H5N1 still NOT in Australia/New Zealand...very likely (mild???) human cases by now in many other places...but "saving the economy" "do not test-do not tell"....

Again-H5N1 itself may not even be the major risk...A mix with other flu types can bring disaster for both humans and other animals...

The present "policies" are PR...denialism...insanity...disgusting !


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Date Posted: 31 Aug 2024 at 9:12am
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DJ...so symptoms show up A FEW WEEKS !!!! after infection !!!
Most of H5N1 spread (in cattle)  is PRE-Symptomatic !!!!

Translated to humans-if it would spread that way- it is impossible to detect in time most of the spread...

If it spreads easy between different sorts of species H5N1 may jump from pets to humans (or v.v.) ...With lots of potential for all kinds of other diseases to "mix"...

Some species may not even show any symptoms-still spread the virus..


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2024 at 11:18pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/preprint-highly-pathogenic-avian.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/preprint-highly-pathogenic-avian.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/preprint-highly-pathogenic-avian.html ;

Preprint: Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza H5 Virus Exposure in Goats and Sheep (in Pakistan)


A little over 5 months ago, in  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/03/minnesota-boah-statement-on-hpai-h5n1.html - Minnesota BOAH Statement On HPAI H5N1 Infected Goat Kids , we looked at the first known detection of HPAI H5Nx in goats.  A few days later we saw the first reports of  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/03/usda-statement-on-hpai-in-dairy-cattle.html - cattle infected with H5N1 in Texas  - which  https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/hpai-confirmed-cases-livestock - has now spread to at least 14 states  - and along the way, we've also seen  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/05/usda-hpai-h5n1-detected-in-alpacas.html - reports of H5N1 in Alpacas . 

Six months ago, the conventional wisdom was that cattle, goats, alpacas, and other livestock were largely immune to influenza A infection (see 2019's  https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/11/6/561 - Influenza A in Bovine Species: A Narrative Literature Review ), although it wasn't considered impossible.

With in excess of 190 herds now affected in the United States (undoubtedly an undercount, due to a lack of mandatory testing), we now know that HPAI can and does affect dairy cattle.  And while it has only been reported in the United States, it seems likely that other outbreaks have gone undetected around the globe. 

Today we have a preprint (see link below) that finds high levels of antibodies to H5, H7, and H9 influenza A viruses in goats and sheep in Pakistan, all of which is highly suggestive of past infection.


DJ, Have we been fooling ourselves by believing some types of flu only stick to one sort of species ? "Bird-flu" only a risk for birds ? Human-flu only a human problem ? 

There have been -the last decades/century- enough findings that flu can "go outside its own species"...that is how flu ended up in humans...

We "love to believe" spread in other species is "low risk", ignoring the facts that it is NOT low risk...! Sometimes farmanimals may catch a flu-virus without developing symptoms...the fact that the virus further developes is simply ignored for "economic reasons"....

While most countries continue to refuse to aggressively test for the virus, the authors warn that `The failure to recognize the potential role of a broader range of livestock species as potential hosts for AIV is a major blind spot in pandemic preparedness planning.'
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Admittedly, no one can know whether HPAI H5 will ever spark a pandemic, but it continues to behave in ways that should give us plenty of pause.  It has greatly expanded its host range in both mammals and birds, providing it new opportunities to evolve and adapt. 

One has to assume that if it has appeared in goats, cattle, and alpacas in North America, and in goats and sheep half-a-world away in Pakistan, it could be spilling over (unnoticed) in other places as well. 

But of course, we can't know that if we aren't willing to look.  

DJ, If a disease is widespread in wild birds being eaten by mammals then it is very likely the virus will find a way into the mammal...

On top of that over a hundred species catch CoViD decreasing immunity...with even more room for H5N1 -more widespread than ever before !!!- to get into other species !

And we-humans- are NOT stopping it...not even testing for it in almost ALL cases !


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Cambodia: Recent fatal H5N1 case involved novel reassortant virus The case "involves the older 2.3.2.1c clade but ... is a novel reassortant that include internal genes from the newer 2.3.4.4b clade."

link; https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/cambodias-recent-h5n1-case-involved-novel-reassortant - https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/cambodias-recent-h5n1-case-involved-novel-reassortant   or https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/cambodias-recent-h5n1-case-involved-novel-reassortant ;

The World Health Organization (WHO) yesterday shared more details from Cambodia about its latest fatal H5N1 avian flu case, including that it involves the older 2.3.2.1c clade but noting that the virus that infected the girl is a novel reassortant that include internal genes from the newer 2.3.4.4b clade.
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Sequencing of the patient's virus sample at the Pasteur Institute in Cambodia found that the hemagglutinin gene from the 2.3.2.1c clade that has been circulating in Cambodia and Southeast Asia since 2013. The internal genes, however, belonged to the newer 2.3.4.4b, which is circulating globally.  "This novel reassortant influenza A(H5N1) virus has been detected in human cases reported in Cambodia since late 2023," the WHO said.

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WHO: Avian Influenza A(H5N1) in Cambodia An update on the recent fatal H5N1 case in Cambodia

link; https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2024-DON533 - https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2024-DON533   or https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2024-DON533 

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/who-update-on-cambodian-h5n1-cases.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/who-update-on-cambodian-h5n1-cases.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/who-update-on-cambodian-h5n1-cases.html ;

Starting in February of 2023, Cambodia began reporting human infections from an older clade (2.3.2.1c) of the H5N1 virus, one which had not spilled over into humans there since 2014.  

The map above shows that at least 16 cases have been identified since - mostly among children and adolescents - with nearly a 40% fatality rate.

While the exact reasons behind this uptick in cases isn't known, last April in -  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/04/fao-statement-on-reassortment-between.html - FAO Statement On Reassortment Between H5N1 Clade 2.3.4.4b & Clade 2.3.2.1c Viruses In Mekong Delta Region  - we learned that a new genotype - made up of this older clade and the current 2.3.4.4b clade of H5N1 - had emerged in Southeast Asia. 

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In Asia, several clades continue to circulate, including A(H5N1) 2.3.4.4b, 2.3.2.1c and others, which can lead to reassortment and the appearance of viruses with new characteristics. A novel reassortant influenza A(H5N1) virus has been detected across the Greater Mekong Subregion (GMS), causing infections in both humans and poultry since mid- 2022.

This virus has recently caused human outbreaks in Cambodia early this year. This virus contains the surface proteins from clade 2.3.2.1c that has circulated locally, but internal genes from a more recent clade 2.3.4.4b virus.

The introduction and widespread circulation of this reassortant influenza A(H5N1) virus into the GMS poses a significant risk to both animal and human health, given the historical impact of HPAI outbreaks in the region. Further, this reassortment event indicates not only the adaptive capacity of the virus but also the ever-present risk of the emergence of new, potentially more virulent strains.

While most texts continue to refer to the Cambodian cases simply as clade 2.3.2.1c, the acquisition of the internal genes from clade 2.3.4.4b adds a new layer of uncertainty.  How this affects this virus - both in humans and in other hosts - is largely unknown. 


DJ, H5N1 -just like CoViD, Mpox, developing sub-variants...my non-expert view; Both Mpox and H5N1 are in a "pre-pandemic stage"...More testing would find more cases..."to save the economy" -in fact saving politicians-for-sale/bad politics- we do not see enough testing/sequencing...The India H5N1 story is very unclear...Mexico may have had H5N1 spread via US cattle..but "no one wants to know that"...

"Spread via poultry/cattle" is "better" than airborne spread of H5N1...so downplaying the "low" risk goes on...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2024 at 12:34am
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/pathogens-susceptibility-of.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/pathogens-susceptibility-of.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/pathogens-susceptibility-of.html ;

Pathogens: Susceptibility of Synanthropic Rodents to H5N1 Subtype HPAI Viruses


While they haven't gotten the attention they deserve, rodents - which are often abundant around poultry and dairy farms - likely contribute to the spread of HPAI viruses (see 2016's  https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01652176.2017.1325537 - The role of rodents in avian influenza outbreaks in poultry farms: a review ).

Previously, in 2015's  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2015/05/taking-hpai-to-bank-vole.html - Taking HPAI To The Bank (Vole) , we looked at that species' susceptibility to both H5N1 and H7N1, while more recently - in  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/nature-decoding-rna-viromes-in-shrew.html - Nature: Decoding the RNA Viromes in Shrew Lungs Along the Eastern Coast of China  - we looked at a study that found a wide range of zoonotic viruses - including HPAI H5N6 - in shrews. 

A lot seems to depend upon both the host species, and the subtype/clade of the infecting influenza virus. Some rodents may develop mild, even asymptomatic, infection while others may quickly succumb to the virus. 

Up until two months ago, rodents had never been included in the  https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/mammals - USDA's list of mammalian wildlife  infected with H5N1 (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/usda-adds-house-mouse-to-mammals.html - USDA Adds House Mouse To Mammals Affected by H5N1) .

Since early June we've seen nearly 100 rodents (house mouse, deer mice) added to the list, and they now comprise nearly 25% of all of the confirmed mammals on the list. We've also seen  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/usda-adds-4-new-species-deer-mice.html - the recent addition  of domestic cats (n=53), prairie voles (n=1), and desert cottontails (n=1) to that list.

And just last week, in  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/vet-quarterly-hpai-virus-h5n1-clade.html - Emer. Microbe & Inf.: HPAI Virus H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b in Wild Rats in Egypt during 2023 , we a surprisingly high percentage of wild rats testing positive for H5 antibodies in Egypt. 

All of which brings us to a new study, published today in Pathogens, where researchers challenged several rodent species (house mice, brown rat, black rat) with two (older 2010, 2007) HPAI H5N1 viruses, and found they are both susceptible to the virus and could potentially play a role it its evolution and spread. 

DJ, This should NOT be a surprise...Fleas from rats did spread the "Black Death" in the 14th century... The "One Health" idea is a disease in other than human animals may be a risk for the human-animal...

While it remains incomplete, our understanding of the ecology of the H5N1 virus continues to expand. 

  • Six months ago cattle, goats, and alpacas weren't considered susceptible hosts,  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/05/usda-hpai-h5n1-detected-in-alpacas.html - now they are .  
  • Last week, we saw evidence that sheep may be susceptible as well (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/preprint-highly-pathogenic-avian.html - Preprint: Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza H5 Virus Exposure in Goats and Sheep (in Pakistan) ).
  • Although long suspected,  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/preprint-highly-pathogenic-avian.html - blowflies are now considered plausible `mechanical' vectors  of HPAI viruses
  • In 2020 the USGS found long-term (up to 7 months) survival of influenza A viruses in wetlands in both Alaska and Minnesota (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2020/09/proc-royal-society-b-influenza-viruses.html - Proc. Royal Society B: Influenza A Viruses Remain Viable For Months In Northern Wetlands - USGS
  • Last May, in  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/05/viruses-assessment-of-survival-kinetics.html - Viruses: Assessment of Survival Kinetics for Emergent Highly Pathogenic Clade 2.3.4.4 H5Nx Avian Influenza Viruses  we looked at the survivability of 5 different HPAI H5 clade 2.3.4.4b viruses collected between 2014 and 2021, in a laboratory environment at 3 different temperatures (measured in days).
  • And while still controversial, we've seen a number of studies suggesting long-distance airborne spread of avian flu viruses, including 2019's  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2019/08/nature-airborne-transmission-may-have.html - Nature: Airborne Transmission May Have Played A Role In Spread Of U.S. 2015 HPAI Epizootic  and 2022's  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2022/06/eid-journal-hpai-h5n8-clade-2344b-virus.html - HPAI (H5N8) Clade 2.3.4.4b Virus in Dust Samples from Poultry Farms, France, 2021 .
Admittedly, adding rodents as vectors to this list isn't much of a stretch. 

While none of this speaks to whether HPAI H5 will ever spark a pandemic, it does remind us how well-adapted the virus has become over the past two decades, and how much more challenging it may be to contain it going forward. 

DJ, Somehow humans do not want to deal with basic problems...If the "economy=profits" is the ONLY goal we are going of a cliff...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2024 at 9:41pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-statement-on-missouri-h5-case.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-statement-on-missouri-h5-case.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-statement-on-missouri-h5-case.html ;

The CDC has now released a statement on the  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/missouri-dhss-human-h5-bird-flu-case.html - Missouri H5 case  (see below).  Given the lack of occupational exposure - and no known exposure to animals - the epidemiological investigation into this case will be of extreme interest. 

We should get more information on the full subtype, and hopefully complete genomic sequencing, sometime next week.


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Nationally, this is the first case of H5 that has been detected as part of the flu surveillance system, rather than the targeted H5-outbreak specific surveillance that has been conducted as part of ongoing animal outbreaks which has identified all the other cases.
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As we've seen previously from the UKHSA (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/ttd-time-to-detect-revisited.html - TTD (Time to Detect): Revisited ), identifying community spread of a novel virus could take weeks, and only come after dozens or even hundreds of people had been infected. 

While this is hopefully an isolated case, the fact that it was only confirmed 2 weeks after the patient was hospitalized (and now released), illustrates how difficult it can be to detect novel flu viruses like HPAI H5N1 in real-time. 

As we've seen, detecting H5 cases in the community often requires a bit of luck, but the harder we look, the earlier we are apt to identify cases. 


DJ, The US stopped reporting new H5N1 cases in farm workers. While there are a lot of stories of farm workers with H5N1-like symptoms (eye-infection, fever..). 

Again-the "news" was under control NOT the disease...Also Mexico should have some H5N1 cases;
-Via infected imported cattle from a.o. Texas
-Via raw milk consumption-a lot higher in Mexico
-Via infected farmworkers returning/deported (?) from the US...

Of course countries do not like to see major healthproblems...however denial makes problems much worse...

What role CoViD played/plays is an open question-is there any testing on that ? Does H5N1 and CoViD "co-spread"/Flu-Rona ? 


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2024 at 10:02pm
https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/missouri/996496-us-human-h5-bird-flu-case-confirmed-in-missouri-dhss-september-06-2024 - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/missouri/996496-us-human-h5-bird-flu-case-confirmed-in-missouri-dhss-september-06-2024   or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/missouri/996496-us-human-h5-bird-flu-case-confirmed-in-missouri-dhss-september-06-2024 ;Today, 04:55 PM
We count 16 total US cases because we count the two cases described in a research paper.  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/welcome-to-the-scientific-library/other-scientific-studies-including-seasonal-novel-flu/h5n1-research-studies-papers-academia/994601-medrxiv-a-one-health-investigation-into-h5n1-avian-influenza-virus-epizootics-on-two-dairy-farms - link

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/flutrackers-high-pathogenic-h5n1-h1n08-h5n8-h5n6-h5n3-tracking-outbreaks-spread/749462-flutrackers-2016-global-h5n1-human-cases-list - FluTrackers 2016+ Global H5N1 Human Cases List

DJ This list https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/flutrackers-high-pathogenic-h5n1-h1n08-h5n8-h5n6-h5n3-tracking-outbreaks-spread/749462-flutrackers-2016-global-h5n1-human-cases-list?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/flutrackers-high-pathogenic-h5n1-h1n08-h5n8-h5n6-h5n3-tracking-outbreaks-spread/749462-flutrackers-2016-global-h5n1-human-cases-list?view=stream   or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/flutrackers-high-pathogenic-h5n1-h1n08-h5n8-h5n6-h5n3-tracking-outbreaks-spread/749462-flutrackers-2016-global-h5n1-human-cases-list?view=stream 

indicates last H5N1 farmworker9s) were reported early July ! 

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⚠️ZERO ANIMAL CONTACT HOSPITALIZATION for H5 Bird Flu—the CDC has now confirmed the first ever U.S. human case “without a known occupational exposure to sick or infected animals”—which make this Missouri case very worrisome. Maybe community transmission. https://t.co/nw2mOIAcjr -
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3) So if rarely test, how did we even find it? “While other novel flu cases have been detected through the country's national flu surveillance system, this is the first time that system has detected a case of H5. Targeted H5-outbreak specific surveillance has been conducted as part of ongoing animal outbreaks and has identified all the other cases. In this case, the specimen from the patient originally tested positive for flu A, but negative for seasonal flu A virus subtypes. That finding triggers additional testing.”
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Do they always test for seasonal flu subtypes? I’d think most hospitals, especially in states without a lot of H5N1 in livestock, would just say she’s positive for flu A. I’m confused as to why the more advanced testing happened. I can’t imagine that’s typical protocol.

DJ, some of the reactions; Raw milk did spread the virus ? "No new pandemic untill the elections"....

The patient was in hospital-testing may have been ongoing for SEVERAL WEEKS !!! Again lots of indications the US-CDC is NOT open !


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2024 at 10:32am
https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/case-study-of-human-infection-of-avian-influenza-h10n3-that-occurred-in-china-in-march-2024 - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/case-study-of-human-infection-of-avian-influenza-h10n3-that-occurred-in-china-in-march-2024   or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/case-study-of-human-infection-of-avian-influenza-h10n3-that-occurred-in-china-in-march-2024 

and https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/because-shift-happens.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/because-shift-happens.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/because-shift-happens.html ;

Influenza co-infections in humans - or in any other susceptible host (birds, pigs, cattle, etc.) - are a concern because - while rare - it can allow two (or more) influenza viruses to swap genetic material (reassort) producing a hybrid virus (see graphic at top of blog).

A novel pandemic virus might emerge solely from the wild, but an `easier' route would be for an avian or swine virus to reassort with an already `human-adapted' seasonal flu virus, producing a pandemic inducing hybrid. 

While most of these reassortments are evolutionary failures, twice in my lifetime (1957 & 1968) a reassortment between seasonal flu and an avian flu virus - likely in a human host - produced a pandemic virus. 
  • The first (1957) was H2N2, which  https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemic.html#:~:text=In%20February%201957%2C%20a%20new,and%20the%20N2%20neuraminidase%20genes. - According to the CDC  `. . . was comprised of three different genes from an H2N2 virus that originated from an avian influenza A virus, including the H2 hemagglutinin and the N2 neuraminidase genes.'
  • In 1968 a novel H3N2 virus emerged ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7144439/ - a reassortment  of 2 genes from a low path avian influenza H3 virusand 6 genes from H2N2which supplanted H2N2 - killed more than a million people during its first year - and continues to spark yearly epidemics more than 50 years later.
Note: The 2009 H1N1 pandemic - although it was a triple-reassortment containing some avian-origin genetic contributions - emerged from swine. 

This is the reason why yearly flu vaccination is strongly recommended for  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/canada-bc-provincial-health-officer.html - people who raise pigs https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/canada-bc-provincial-health-officer.html -  or work with poultry , and the  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/07/cdc-5-million-initiative-to-improve.html - CDC is now pushing for the vaccination in dairy workers . 

Occupational exposure to H5N1 has - at least in the United States - been the primary route of infection, but  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-statement-on-missouri-h5-case.html - Friday's announcement of an unrelated case in Missouri  is a reminder that past performance is no guarantee of future results. 

Only one outlier so far is encouraging, but an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Particularly when we see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-one-health-investigation-into.html - reports of sick dairy workers who go untested , and most states relying on  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/colorado-first-bulk-milk-testing.html - voluntary testing of livestock .

Although it is possible that this Missouri infection was a singular event - miraculously picked up (albeit, belatedly) by limited  surveillance - past studies strongly suggest we would be lucky to detect 1 in 10 (or even 100novel flu cases.  

  • While the 2009 Swine flu pandemic was first reported in Southern California in late April of 2009, we now know the virus had been circulating - unnoticed - for at least 2 months in Mexico (see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3166087/ -   https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3166087/ - Early Outbreak of 2009 Influenza A (H1N1) in Mexico Prior to Identification of pH1N1 Virus) .
  • A study published in 2013 (see  http://afludiary.blogspot.com/2013/06/cid-journal-estimates-of-human.html - CID Journal: Estimates Of Human Infection From H3N2v (Jul 2011-Apr 2012 ) - estimated that during a time when only 13 cases of novel flu were reported by the CDC - that the actual number of infections was likely 200 times (or more) higher.
  • During the opening weeks of China's H7N9 outbreak in 2013, in  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2013/06/lancet-clinical-severity-of-human-h7n9.html - Lancet: Clinical Severity Of Human H7N9 Infection , we saw estimates that the number of `symptomatic' cases was likely anywhere between 10 and 200 times higher than reported.
  • A little over a year ago, we looked at a study from the UK HSA (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/03/uk-novel-flu-surveillance-quantifying.html - UK Novel Flu Surveillance: Quantifying TTD ) that estimated the TTD (Time To Detecta novel H5N1 virus in the community via passive surveillance could take weeks, and the virus might only be picked up after hundreds or possibly even thousands of infections.

While no one can say with any certainty what happens next with HPAI H5, one thing we can do as individuals to lower the chances of a bad outcome (both personally & for society as a whole) is to get the seasonal flu vaccine this fall. 

Granted, the seasonal flu shot is not expected to provide any protection against the H5N1 virus, but it can help reduce the chances of an individual being simultaneously infected with novel and seasonal flu.

It is admittedly not a perfect solution, since the seasonal flu shot is far better at preventing serious illness than preventing infection. But it is a readily available tool - and given that co-infection might produce more severe illness than seasonal flu alone - having the seasonal vaccine on board may lessen its impact. 

And while seasonal vaccine doesn't protect against avian H5N1, it is conceivable (but far from certain) that it might provide some degree of protection against an H5/Seasonal reassortment.  

DJ,H10N3 case in a Chinese person detected...how many human flu cases are missed...How many flu-types in non-human hosts are missed ? 

On the good side-so far we did see limited new high risk flu types...however CoViD decreasing immunity, aging change the picture...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2024 at 11:19pm
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5) The rationale for that urgency is this: An unexplained H5 infection raises the possibility of person-to-person spread of a flu virus that has never before circulated in humans, and to which people would not have immunity.

link; https://www.statnews.com/2024/09/08/missouri-h5-bird-flu-case-questions-cat-raw-milk/ - https://www.statnews.com/2024/09/08/missouri-h5-bird-flu-case-questions-cat-raw-milk/   or https://www.statnews.com/2024/09/08/missouri-h5-bird-flu-case-questions-cat-raw-milk/ ;

By  https://www.statnews.com/staff/helen-branswell/ - Helen Branswell  

Sept. 8, 2024

Senior Writer, Infectious Diseases

News that  https://www.statnews.com/2024/09/06/missouri-h5-bird-flu-case-no-animal-contacts/ - a person in Missouri contracted H5 bird flu  despite having no known contact with infected animals or birds — in other words, no evident route of infection — raises pressing questions public health officials are surely scurrying to answer.

The rationale for that urgency is this: An unexplained H5 infection raises the possibility of person-to-person spread of a flu virus that has never before circulated in humans, and to which people would not have immunity. And this with a dangerous flu virus that scientists have long feared could someday trigger a pandemic.

After all, the 2009 H1N1 pandemic was first noticed when  https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5815a5.htm - two children in California  who had no contact with pigs or with each other were diagnosed with flu infections caused by a virus that had previously been circulating in swine. 

To be clear, it is far too soon to conclude this infection can’t be linked to some direct or indirect exposure to infected animals or birds, or to some farm product contaminated with the virus. 

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Flu experts watching from afar are puzzled by the seeming lack of urgency. They wonder why the CDC hasn’t sent a team to the state, and why health officials waited so long to make the case public. (The CDC cannot of its own accord send a team of investigators; it must be asked for help by state authorities.)

Their concerns add to criticism that  https://www.statnews.com/2024/04/18/h5n1-bird-flu-scientists-want-usda-genetic-data-faster/ - the entire U.S. response to the outbreak  of H5N1 viruses in dairy cattle has been lethargic; a number of critics have suggested if this outbreak were happening elsewhere, the U.S. would be up in arms about the tenor of the response. The concern is that if the virus, which is genetically wired to infect birds, adapts to be able to spread efficiently among mammals, that brings it a big step closer to being able to transmit among people.

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The fact that the case was only announced publicly two weeks after the individual was hospitalized, and after the person had recovered and was discharged, seems like a missed opportunity to Angela Rasmussen, a virologist who specializes in emerging infectious diseases at at the University of Saskatchewan’s Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization in Saskatoon, Canada. Local doctors should have been alerted quickly so they could be on the lookout for other such cases, she said.

“If there is human-to-human transmission, it is critical to carry out the [epidemiologic] investigation as rapidly and efficiently as possible, so the choice to drag their feet and give no details about follow up is mystifying and reflects very poorly on both Missouri state and federal epidemic response capacity and practice,” Rasmussen told STAT in an email.

DJ...some basic questions (consumption of raw milk/eggs, symptoms) should have been answered !

The sort of H5-flu (bovine/cattle very likely) may take some time...But the testing/sequencing must have been going on for at least TWO WEEKS !!!!

Another question-CoViD background-may not even be asked...If in the 16 US H5 cases ALL of them also would have (long) CoViD it may indicate the type of H5N1 in cattle may "like to work with" CoViD....

Yet another inconveniant truth....Science can NOT BE BASED on denial !


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2024 at 12:52am
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US human H5Nx infection with no known origin

By  https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/author/sweese/ - Scott Weese  on 
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A lot of infectious disease things get over-hyped by the media. This one’s been a bit under the radar though, surprisingly. It’s not a sign of an impending influenza apocalypse but it’s a warning that more may be happening than we’ve assumed.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/s0906-birdflu-case-missouri.html - This relates to a CDC report of H5 influenza infection of a person in Missouri who had no reported animal contact.  It’s just reported as H5 or H5Nx, which I guess means they have not confirmed it’s H5N1. It’s surprising that’s not been done yet since the infection was detected over 2 weeks ago but it’s almost certainly H5N1).

Human H5N1 infections linked to the ongoing massive and multiyear avian outbreak have been rare. There have been 14 reported H5 infections in people in the US so far in 2024, and all previous infections have been linked with direct and close contact with animals.

Rare spillover infections like that are to a large degree expected when there’s lots of disease in animals. We get concerned when the virus changes to become amenable human-human spread, and finding human infections that don’t have a direct link to animals raises a lot of concern.

So, we should be concerned here since the Missouri case had no reported contact with animals and the source of exposure has not been determined. Details are sparse but the person was reportedly hospitalized and recovered, and H5N1 testing was done as part of ongoing surveillance.

How could a person get H5N1 without animal contact?

  • Unreported contact (incomplete history taking)
  • Transient and forgotten animal contact
  • Contact with a surface contaminated by an infected animal
  • Ingestion of contaminated food products

We hope it’s one of those. Hopefully they queried all animal contacts, not just birds and cattle, since we’d be concerned about infection from susceptible species that can bridge those populations and humans…particularly cats.

Otherwise, we get concerned about the last option.

  • Infection from another person

As has been pretty common, information has been slow to flow and lacking in detail. We need to know more about the person’s history (what has clearly been ruled out), whether the person had any human contacts that were high risk for exposure (e.g. worked with infected animals) and the genome of the virus to see if it’s consistent with the circulating avian strain, the strain that’s jumped to dairy cattle, something different and whether it has any genetic markers that show it could be more adept at spreading person-to-person. Missouri hasn’t reported H5N1 in cattle, but it’s circulating in wild birds, with spillover into poultry and backyard chickens. Missouri doesn’t have a huge dairy industry but there are still lots of dairy cattle and it doesn’t sound like there’s been much testing. ( https://missouriindependent.com/2024/07/12/few-missouri-dairy-cows-have-been-tested-for-bird-flu-virus/ - A report in July said that 17 of the state’s ~16,000 dairy cattle had been tested ). So, we can’t rule out it being present in cattle.

Hopefully this is an oddball infection that died out with that person. They got infected somehow but didn’t pass it on.

However, even if that’s the case, this shows that we need to have comprehensive and nimble surveillance. If the infection is indirect linked to dairy cattle (by virtue of finding the dairy cattle strain in the person), it shows again that the US has to take this more seriously. H5N1 in dairy cattle should be containable with short term but aggressive movement restrictions, testing and infection control measures….short term pain for longterm gain. Fewer infected farms are being reported lately, which is great, but it’s still spreading across the country and the longer it goes, the more chances there are for interspecies movement and for the virus to change.

If it’s likely to wild birds, then that’s tougher, since controlling a disease in wild populations is challenge, to put it mildly.

This case was found as part of surveillance program. That’s great, in that surveillance found something important and led to an action…an investigation of possible sources and a warning that there could be more. The not-so-great side of this is that few people with flu-like disease get tested. If human-human spread is occurring, it can slip under the radar, depending on how much testing is happening. That’s particularly true if most infected people get mild disease. So, we don’t know whether this was a lucky detection of a very rare situation or a problem that’s been flying under the radar. Only more time and testing will tell us that.

DJ, My view; Lack of testing is the main problem these days...In part based on "not want to know"-economy/profits first...Part of it may be "pandemic fatigue"...

Still if we keep ignoring risks most risks only increase...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2024 at 10:36pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-updated-interim-guidance-influenza.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-updated-interim-guidance-influenza.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-updated-interim-guidance-influenza.html ;

While we await further news from the epidemiological investigation into the  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-statement-on-missouri-h5-case.html - Missouri H5N1 case  - one which reportedly had no known animal contact - the CDC has updated their guidance page on Influenza antiviral Chemoprophylaxis of Persons Exposed to novel flu viruses which was originally posted in June. 

The original document primarily dealt with individuals exposed to HPAI infected birds (or wild birds with Unknown Avian Influenza A Virus Infection Status)

The  https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/hcp/guidance-exposed-persons/index.html - updated document  has been amended to include exposure to Birds or Other Animals with novel influenza A viruses, and now includes exposure to food products (e.g. raw milk), contaminated surfaces (e.g. bedding, feed or water, waste products, etc.), and even locations (e.g. farms, poultry markets, etc.). 

This guidance is designed primarily for clinicians and public health officials, as it expands the scope of when and where antiviral post-exposure prophylaxis may be considered. 

As we've seen previously, the word `interim' in the title is there because guidance is subject to change as more is learned about the threat.  As they state: There is limited experience with these newly detected viruses to inform public health guidance regarding use of antiviral chemoprophylaxis. 


See also https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/missouri/996496-us-human-h5-bird-flu-case-confirmed-in-missouri-dhss-september-06-2024?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/missouri/996496-us-human-h5-bird-flu-case-confirmed-in-missouri-dhss-september-06-2024?view=stream   or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/missouri/996496-us-human-h5-bird-flu-case-confirmed-in-missouri-dhss-september-06-2024?view=stream (latest):

First human case of Avian Flu (H5N1) confirmed in Missouri

The City of St. Louis Department of Health is encouraging extra vigilance and safety precautions

September 10, 2024 | 2 min reading time

With the recent confirmation of Missouri’s first human case of  https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/about/index.html - H5N1 Avian Flu  [ https://www.cdc.gov%5d/ - www.cdc.gov]  confirmed by the Department of Health and Senior Services, the City of St. Louis Department of Health is encouraging extra vigilance and safety precautions by residents who own or frequently come into contact with domestic birds, such as chickens and ducks, or wild birds.

Wild birds, including crows and various species of songbirds, are the most prominent carriers of the avian flu virus, and evidence has shown that these animals can spread the disease to humans. If you own a flock of chickens, the Department of Health recommends the following precautions:
  • Wear protective gear such as gloves and a facemask when coming into direct contact with the birds or their living environment
  • Wash hands thoroughly with soap and warm water for at least 20 seconds after handling the animals or items belonging to them
  • Keep other animals such as dogs or cats away from the birds
  • Report deceased birds that recently suffered an illness to the Missouri Division of Animal Health at (573) 751-3377 or  mailto:animal.health@mda.mo.gov - animal.health@mda.mo.gov . Carefully wrap the bird in a plastic bag so that it can be submitted for laboratory testing
Avian flu is most commonly transmitted by direct contact with animals that carry it, whether or not they are displaying symptoms of illness. It is very rare for the disease to be transmitted from person to person.

Household pets, primarily cats, are particularly susceptible to avian flu because of predation of wild birds. If you notice your cat or dog suddenly developing respiratory symptoms, contact your vet immediately - a quick response increases the animal’s chance for recovery and your vet will want to confirm or rule out avian flu.

If you find a deceased wild bird in your yard, place it in a sealed plastic bag for disposal. The department strongly recommends wearing a face mask and gloves when handling deceased birds and washing your hands for at least 20 seconds afterward.

For more information, reach out to the Department of Health at (314) 612-5100 or  mailto:health@stlouis-mo.gov - health@stlouis-mo.gov .

DJ, Humans do not live on an island-in general...So diseases in other species can get "in contact" with humans. If there is no "receptor" the virus has no entry...so an animal disease stays out...Human eyes have the same receptors as udders of a cow...that is how H5N1 may be able to spread from an infected cow to a human in close contact with such an infected cow...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2024 at 11:04pm
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Missouri: CDC can't investigate latest bird flu case in a human The agency’s investigators can’t look into the infection further unless state authorities request their help. So far, Missouri hasn’t made such a request."

link; https://www.kansascity.com/news/state/missouri/article292203240.html - https://www.kansascity.com/news/state/missouri/article292203240.html   or https://www.kansascity.com/news/state/missouri/article292203240.html (paywall)

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This is very sad, but not surprising given all we saw throughout Covid. We need better pathogen surveillance systems. They can’t all be under control of the federal government. We can’t wait until people are hospitalized with a pandemic potential pathogen, to start an investigation…that drags on for weeks. I doubt we will ever get full, honest data about this patient (bits will be held until a group can get it accepted for publication) or many of the others. We need a better solution to detect outbreaks and prevent pandemics. The current one does not work.

DJ-US laws stop federal health authorities to look at state health issues if that state does not ask for help...So if on a federal-US-level the CDC thinks there may be a pandemic risk...A state-for political reasons- (saving economy) - can deny cooperation...????
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Very likely CoViD, Mpox, H5N1 may be spreading in several countries-sometimes in combination...(Flu-Rona) but we hardly get any info....

AGAIN-In a crisis every minute matters !!!! In pandemics you have to stop the spread...but we are not even having an idea of how what diseases are spreading where...

Denialism is NOT an answer !


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2024 at 12:01am
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Missouri: No clear exposure source in H5 avian flu case "Missouri investigators have found no link to consumption of raw milk or other raw dairy products"

link; https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/no-clear-exposure-source-missouri-h5-avian-flu-case - https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/no-clear-exposure-source-missouri-h5-avian-flu-case   or https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/no-clear-exposure-source-missouri-h5-avian-flu-case ;

The patient had significant underlying medical conditions and was evaluated in the hospital for acute chest pain and gastrointestinal symptoms, he said. A respiratory panel was done during hospitalization, and as part of influenza surveillance the results were batched with other patient samples and sent to Missouri's state lab for subtyping. Shah commended Missouri and other states for stepping up their surveillance subtype testing over the summer months, which the CDC had recommended.

Missouri investigators have found no link to consumption of raw milk or other raw dairy products, Shah said.


DJ; The CDC is kept out of further investigation because it is a "Missouri internal state affair"......My conclusion-H2H spread most likely...


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Study: Sequencing-Based Detection of Avian Influenza A(H5N1) Virus in Wastewater in Ten Cities "H5N1 was detected in 10 of 10 cities, 22 of 23 sites, and 100 of 399 samples" NEJM

link; https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2405937 - https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2405937   or https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2405937 ;
The widespread detection of influenza A(H5N1) virus in wastewater from 10 U.S. cities is troubling. Although the exact origin of the signal is currently unknown, the lack of clinical burden along with genomic information suggests multiple animal sources. Wastewater monitoring should be considered as a sentinel surveillance tool that augments our detection of evolutionary adaptations of concern.

DJ https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list?view=stream -with the Missouri case the US in 2024 did see 16 H5N1 human cases....SIXTEEN !!! With lots of spread NOT monitored !!! Lots of international spread very likely !

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California: Three more dairy herds infected with H5N1 bird flu "California officials have identified three new outbreaks of H5N1 bird flu in Central Valley dairy herds, bringing the total number of infected farms to six."

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Six dairies in the Central Valley of California have tested positive for avian influenza. On top of that, we have been experiencing a brutal heatwave with temperatures surpassing 100 F. Do you think workers are wearing PPE? With 73% of dairy profits coming from some sort of subsidy, producers should not be able to opt out of testing their herds. Its time to mandate bulk milk testing in California, and redirect public funds to support animal-free methods of food production. Check out my recent opinion piece in the
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Another link; https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/nejm-sequencing-based-detection-of.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/nejm-sequencing-based-detection-of.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/nejm-sequencing-based-detection-of.html ;

We are rapidly approaching 6 months since we first learned of HPAI H5 in American dairy cows - which by that time had likely gone undetected for months - and we have yet to get a good handle on how widespread the virus is across the nation, primarily due to a lack of testing. 

Yesterday, California - the largest dairy producing state in the nation -  https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/AHFSS/Animal_Health/HPAI.html - announced 3 more herds infected , but so far, they are not mandating testing.  

Colorado, which is the only state currently requiring weekly bulk-milk tank testing, has had  https://ag.colorado.gov/animal-health/reportable-diseases/avian-influenza/hpai-in-dairy-cattle - to re-quarantine herds  which tested positive after being previously released; a clear demonstration of the value of continued testing. 

Despite industry assurances that `sick cows' are immediately removed from the production line, and `infected milk never enters the food chain', dairy products on the shelf have obviously tested positive for (heat-inactivated) HPAI virus particles.  

We've also seen  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/05/preprint-emergence-and-interstate.html - credible reports  of asymptomatic infection in cattle.  But testing remains voluntary, and many dairy farms fear the negative publicity and economic impact that would come from having a positive test result.  

We've also seen multiple anecdotal reports of sick farm workers who were never tested for the virus (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/eid-journal-avian-influenza-ah5n1-virus.html - here https://www.bovinevetonline.com/news/industry/message-ag-industry-about-h5n1 - here , and  https://www.statnews.com/2024/04/24/h5n1-bird-flu-usda-orders-dairy-cow-testing/ - here) , and media reports (see  https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/06/bird-flu-dairy-farms-cdc-00156119?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email - here , and  https://www.statnews.com/2024/05/03/bird-flu-why-h5n1-keeping-awake-cdc-top-flu-scientist/ - here ) that some states have been less than cooperative with CDC and USDA investigators.

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Add in the  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/05/cdc-update-new-influenza-dashboard.html - decision to no longer require hospitals to report hospital admissions  over the summer for COVID, Flu, and other respiratory illnesses, and a lack of nationwide HPAI H5 wastewater testing, and we find ourselves making incredibly important decisions based on dangerously incomplete data. 

But as long as our luck holds, we've nothing to worry about.  

DJ, Insanity is the new normal...!


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2024 at 11:54pm
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Missouri: Second possible human H5N1 case was not tested "One close contact of the patient was also ill at the same time, was not tested, and has since recovered."

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The plot thickens: @CDCgov says a close contact of the Missouri #H5 #birdflu case was sick at the same time but wasn't tested. Not clear why that info wasn't shared Thurs during an hour-long press briefing when CDC said Missouri was looking like a "one-off" case.

link; https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm - https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm or https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm 

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-update-on-missouri-h5-case-details.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-update-on-missouri-h5-case-details.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-update-on-missouri-h5-case-details.html ;

CDC Update On Missouri H5 Case - Details On Two Symptomatic Contacts


In addition to the revelation earlier today of an untested, but symptomatic close contact to the Missouri H5 case (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-fluview-update-on-missouri-h5-case.html - CDC FluView Update On Missouri H5 Case Adds An Important Detail ), late today the CDC released a more detailed report which mentions a 2nd symptomatic close contact (who reportedly tested negative for flu). 

It isn't stated what kind of flu testing was conducted on this second contact, or at what stage in that person's illness swabs were collected, both of which could affect the accuracy of the test (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2015/10/cdc-updated-ridt-guidance-when-no.html - CDC: Updated RIDT Guidance - When `No’ Doesn’t Always Mean No ).

Since both appear to have been ill at roughly the same time as the confirmed case - even if they had H5 - this would be more suggestive of a `shared exposure' than human-to-human transmission.  It is possible that antibody testing could yield more information in the weeks ahead, assuming these contacts are willing to participate. 

I've already commented  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-fluview-update-on-missouri-h5-case.html - in my last blog  on the slow-rolling of data, so I won't repeat that again. 

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-fluview-update-on-missouri-h5-case.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-fluview-update-on-missouri-h5-case.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-fluview-update-on-missouri-h5-case.html ;

Details on Missouri's H5 case have been slow in coming, and yesterday the CDC revealed that sequencing of the virus was not going well, and a full genomic analysis (including sub-typing) may not be possible.

Today, the CDC published a small update in their  https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm - weekly FluView report  which carried a previously undisclosed tidbit; that a second person (in contact with the identified case) was ill, but was not tested for the virus. 

Why we are just learning about this now, more than a week after the initial report, is unclear.   

Hopefully serological studies will be performed (assuming the contact is willing) to see if that illness was from an H5 infection.  These types of studies must usually wait until several weeks after the illness, for peak antibody detection.  

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I won't make any assumptions about who is responsible for the decision to slow-roll the release of this important detail - since it could have occurred at the local, state or federal level - but it does little to inspire confidence in the investigation or the agencies involved.  

For six months, we've seen HPAI H5 treated as more of an economic or political problem, than a potential public health concern, and that should give everyone pause.  

If things go badly, and the HPAI H5 threat escalates, public health are going to need the trust and support of an already pandemic-weary and skeptical public. 

And public trust is an asset that is far-too-easily squandered by trying to `manage' the facts. 


DJ...IF the US-CDC, supposed to be a world leading health institution- simply is NOT testing, delaying reports, witholding info...how the .... other countries are supposed to inform "the world" on high risk disease spread ?????

DJ-It is NOT about only the general public-but also health care NEEDS to know what diseases are spreading where....

the amount of stupidity is shocking !!!
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https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/welcome-to-the-scientific-library/surveillance-and-epidemic-control/996893-j-med-virol-animal-h10n5-infections-and-emerging-zoonotic-h10n5-coinfection-with-h3n2-seasonal-influenza-a-virus - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/welcome-to-the-scientific-library/surveillance-and-epidemic-control/996893-j-med-virol-animal-h10n5-infections-and-emerging-zoonotic-h10n5-coinfection-with-h3n2-seasonal-influenza-a-virus or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/welcome-to-the-scientific-library/surveillance-and-epidemic-control/996893-j-med-virol-animal-h10n5-infections-and-emerging-zoonotic-h10n5-coinfection-with-h3n2-seasonal-influenza-a-virus 

Animal H10N5 infections and emerging zoonotic H10N5 coinfection with H3N2 seasonal influenza A virus


DJ...the link has a link leading to another "log-in" link....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H3N2 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H3N2   or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H3N2 

DJ-A.o. "Hong Kong Flu pandemic 1968-69;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu ;
The Hong Kong flu, also known as the 1968 flu pandemic, was a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flu_pandemic - flu pandemic  that occurred in 1968 and 1969 and which killed between one and four million people globally. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu#cite_note-:1-1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu#cite_note-Britannica-2 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu#cite_note-3 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu#cite_note-4 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu#cite_note-5 -  It is among the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics - deadliest pandemics  in history, and was caused by an  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H3N2 - H3N2  strain of the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus - influenza A virus . The virus was descended from  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H2N2 - H2N2  (which caused the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957%E2%80%931958_influenza_pandemic - Asian flu pandemic  in 1957–1958) through  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigenic_shift - antigenic shift , a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics - genetic  process in which  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene - genes  from multiple subtypes are  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reassortment - reassorted  to form a new virus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu#cite_note-6 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu#cite_note-7 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu#cite_note-:3-8 -

In such a "landscape" one may expect a rapid evolution of new flu variants...With CoViD damaging immunity also flu will find more hosts (humans and other animals)....

The more hosts=more mutations=more variants...resulting in even more hosts, mutations etc...

You have to STOP viral diseases in time...Some of them can go "explosive" if they can spread into hundreds of billions of hosts (most not human...). 

Ignoring that risk -again- is utter stupidity !


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2024 at 11:58pm
DJ-Like always good info https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/preprint-targets-of-influenza-human-t.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/preprint-targets-of-influenza-human-t.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/preprint-targets-of-influenza-human-t.html ;

Exactly how much of an advantage pre-existing cross-reactive T Cells might provide is unknown, but even a little dampening effect might make the difference between a moderately severe flu and a fatal one.  

As we've discussed before (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/preprint-enhanced-replication-of.html - here  and  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/02/revisiting-h5n1-cfr-case-fatality-rate.html - here ), the oft-quoted 50% CFR (Case Fatality Rate) of H5N1 is probably greatly exaggerated, as it is based only on cases sick enough to be hospitalized, and countries with better medical facilities (like Egypt) saw far fewer fatalities.

But even a more reasonable 2%-5% CFR would present a public health crisis unlike anything we've seen in the modern era.  So any edge provided by preexisting cross-reactive T Cells, or prior influenza infection or vaccination, could have a huge impact. 


DJ-Age matters. 
  • Those born prior to the mid-1960s were almost certainly first exposed to Group 1 flu viruses (H1N1 or H2N2)
  • Those born after 1968 and before 1977 would have been exposed to Group 2 (H3N2) 
  • After 1977, both Group 1 and 2 viruses co-circulated, meaning the first exposure could have been to either one. 

DJ...however for pandemic control one needs to stop spread as soon as one can...You need large scale testing...border control to stop spreading diseases...

And we are NOT doing that...

As a reminder-global population now 8,2 billion...if 5% of them would die in another flu-pandemic (an estimate for the Spanish Flu) that would see 410 million people dying...

Highest estimates for -by now- 5 years of CoViD put the number of people dying from that disease at 35-40 million...A "serious" flu pandemic may give over 10 times the number of people killed very likely within ONE year...

Health care can not deal with such numbers...So the indirect effects would be a lot worse...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2024 at 2:35am
https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/960736-avian-flu-h5n1-discussion-news-case-lists-links-2022?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/960736-avian-flu-h5n1-discussion-news-case-lists-links-2022?view=stream   or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/960736-avian-flu-h5n1-discussion-news-case-lists-links-2022?view=stream  latests;
https://flutrackers.com/forum/member/18-sharon-sanders">sharon sanders
https://flutrackers.com/forum/member/18-sharon-sanders - sharon sanders  replied
I just don't have the words about how this event has been handled. We need to know how the Missouri case and possibly their household member got H5(N1).

This situation is wholly unacceptable.

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/missouri/996496-us-human-h5-bird-flu-case-confirmed-in-missouri-dhss-september-06-2024 - US - Human H5 bird flu case confirmed in Missouri (DHSS, September 06, 2024)
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https://flutrackers.com/forum/member/512-commonground">Commonground
https://flutrackers.com/forum/member/512-commonground - Commonground  replied
It is the fault of the CDC by withholding pertinent data that should have been disclosed from the get go. As it is being leaked, it just creates distrust, paranoia, frustration, and fear....into those that read the daily tid-bits, as they choose to drip them out, one by one, to the public. We may need to know, and may be curious and find information interesting....but the bottom line is we mostly need to be able to prepare and watch our backs against a possible pathogen that could create a very dangerous pandemic. What about "we"?


If things go badly, and the HPAI H5 threat escalates, public health are going to need the trust and support of an already pandemic-weary and skeptical public.

And public trust is an asset that is far-too-easily squandered by trying to `manage' the facts.
If things go badly, and the HPAI H5 threat escalates, public health are going to need the trust and support of an already pandemic-weary and skeptical public.
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https://hogvet51.substack.com/p/human-h5n1-cases-in-missouri-continue - https://hogvet51.substack.com/p/human-h5n1-cases-in-missouri-continue   or https://hogvet51.substack.com/p/human-h5n1-cases-in-missouri-continue 

DJ, Authorities have to be open as best as they can in a crisis. NOT providing info-or "controlled distribution of limited info" creates distrust/panic...

CoViD may develop further towards even more creating room for co-infections. (Because it would/could allow CoViD to create more viruses)

We may be moving towards totally new (sorts of) diseases...escaping ANY testing..




Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2024 at 11:03pm
https://x.com/CoronaHeadsUp -
https://x.com/CoronaHeadsUp -
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https://x.com/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1835432176461951033 -
US: CDC A(H5N1) Bird Flu Response Update September 13, 2024 "Additional information on .. the H5 case reported by Missouri last week, in addition to an update on the partial sequence of the virus from that case and a serology study in Ohio."

link https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/h5n1-response-09132024.html - https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/h5n1-response-09132024.html   or https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/h5n1-response-09132024.html ;
Also shared by Missouri, subsequently, a second close contact of the case – a health care worker – developed mild symptoms and tested negative for flu. A 10-day follow-up period has since passed, and no additional cases have been found. 
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A CDC team of epidemiologists, veterinarians, and health communication specialists is working with the Ohio Department of Health this week on a serosurvey that will assess past exposure to H5 viruses among a national network of veterinarians and other veterinary professionals. To do this, CDC and Ohio staff are at a bovine practitioner conference enrolling people, asking them questions about exposures, and taking blood samples to look for antibodies to H5 viruses. The goal of this activity is to better understand the extent of prior influenza A(H5) infections among people who work closely with cows and the current risk of infection associated with occupational exposures among people who work frequently with cows in various settings and with different degrees and types of exposures.

DJ...crisis management #1=open and honest communication !!!!!

https://x.com/CoronaHeadsUp -
https://x.com/CoronaHeadsUp -
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https://x.com/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1835428392147038705 -
US: Immediate action Is needed in order to prevent an H5N1 pandemic “The time for decisive action is not when a pandemic strikes, but today, while we have the opportunity.”

link; https://scitechdaily.com/global-experts-sound-alarm-immediate-action-is-needed-in-order-to-prevent-an-h5n1-pandemic/ - https://scitechdaily.com/global-experts-sound-alarm-immediate-action-is-needed-in-order-to-prevent-an-h5n1-pandemic/   or https://scitechdaily.com/global-experts-sound-alarm-immediate-action-is-needed-in-order-to-prevent-an-h5n1-pandemic/ ;

Amidst widespread H5N1 outbreaks, experts call for an immediate and structured response to influenza threats, highlighting the need for voluntary vaccination, improved vaccine stockpiles, and global cooperation to enhance pandemic preparedness and response.

As the global risk of H5N1 influenza escalates with outbreaks affecting various species and spreading across continents, including the U.S., three international experts in vaccines and public health are advocating for a comprehensive and well-funded strategy to tackle this and future potential pandemic flu threats. They suggest considering voluntary vaccinations for those currently at risk of exposure.


“At this critical juncture, decisions about vaccine development, stockpiling, and deployment will shape our ability to respond to immediate and future pandemic risks,” write Jesse Goodman, MD, PhD; Rick A. Bright, PhD; and Nicole Lurie, MD, MSPH, in a JAMA Viewpoint published Sept. 4.


The current outbreak of H5N1 in North America has infected poultry, cows, wild birds, and marine and terrestrial mammals, along with at least 13 humans, primarily on dairy and poultry farms. No human-to-human transmission has been reported.


“It is highly concerning that this H5N1 strain, compared with prior ones, has had unprecedented spread among mammals,” says Goodman. 


“Although human cases have so far been relatively mild, the threat of a pandemic is real, given the virus’s widespread and continued presence close to humans and its potential to reassort with human influenza viruses or mutate to acquire the ability to transmit among humans.”



DJ-we need to change the way we think !!!! Some non-human diseases may be at the same risk level as diseases in humans ! H5N1 spreading in mammals may simply be high risk for humans !

A-symptomatic spread of H5N1 in (sea)birds is a way to get H5N1 all over the planet....

Prevention -avoiding problems- is saving lots of costs...AND lives...As a reminder; pandemics may have been part of the reasons for the end of the West Roman Empire...

We have to rethink our actions; limit meat consumption, long distance travels...Try to stay healthy...go for reasonable incomes...NOT a few very rich-keeping most humans poor...

Governments HAVE A JOB in public healthcare, education, clean air ! Do your job !

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-evolution-of-avian-influenza-h5n1-a-growing-threat-in-the-usa-and-beyond - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-evolution-of-avian-influenza-h5n1-a-growing-threat-in-the-usa-and-beyond   or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-evolution-of-avian-influenza-h5n1-a-growing-threat-in-the-usa-and-beyond 

link to https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0042682224002678 - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0042682224002678   or https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0042682224002678



Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 10:53pm
DJ, In general THE NEWS on CoViD, H5N1 etc. is under control...NOT the disease...

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/mmwr-wastewater-surveillance-for.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/mmwr-wastewater-surveillance-for.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/mmwr-wastewater-surveillance-for.html 
Wastewater surveillance has long been hailed as an important adjunct to traditional surveillance methods, often providing early warning of undetected diseases in a community.  In 2022, it was instrumental in detecting the presence of Polio in New York state (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2022/08/new-york-state-doh-statement-on-polio.html - New York State DOH Statement On Polio Investigation - Detection In Wastewater ).

With testing for COVID during the pandemic switching primarily to home testing, wastewater analysis has allowed health officials to track the waves of the virus across the nation, and has provided samples of  variants for study (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/01/bmc-genomics-chronic-shedding-of-sars.html - BMC Genomics: Chronic Shedding of a SARS-CoV-2 Alpha Variant in Wastewater ).

Since HPAI H5N1 appeared in cattle in March of this year, and subsequently spilled over into cattle and poultry workers  over the summer, wastewater surveillance has been used to look for unusual clusters of influenza A - and from a smaller subset of reporting stations - evidence of H5 influenza. 
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Limitations

The findings in this report are subject to at least five limitations. 
  • First, although influenza viruses can be detected in wastewater, current techniques cannot distinguish between human and animal sources, and the current approach for H5 testing in wastewater is not specific to HPAI A(H5N1) viruses; H5 detections in wastewater might reflect animal rather than human infections and might be detection of low pathogenic avian influenza rather than HPAI A(H5N1) viruses.
  • Second, limited data are available regarding the proportion of persons infected with influenza viruses who shed virus in urine or feces, and how the concentration of viral shedding varies by subtype and across the course of illness (10). 
  • Third, population wastewater surveillance coverage varies substantially by state; therefore, data are most informative when used in conjunction with clinical human influenza surveillance data. 
  • Fourth, states reported information on the investigations of sewershed inputs for sites with high influenza A virus levels or H5 detections, but comparison information for sites without these signals was not collected; therefore, epidemiologic measures for these possible associations could not be generated.
  • Finally, the comprehensiveness of data collection after a signal in wastewater varied widely. Public health investigations into potential sources of H5 viruses in wastewater can be complex (e.g., milk-processing inputs can include milk from other states) and might support or refute likely sources of H5 without providing definitive conclusions.

Implications for Public Health Practice

Lessons learned during early follow-up investigations of wastewater signals can help health officials implement an improved measure of influenza A virus levels in wastewater and optimize the use of wastewater surveillance during the upcoming respiratory illness season.
The findings in this report, and data from wastewater surveillance in general, can complement traditional influenza surveillance systems. A One Health approach with multisectoral collaboration and data-informed guidance on when and how to use influenza virus subtyping of wastewater might enhance the public health response to the current outbreak.
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While wastewater surveillance is undoubtedly an excellent tool, in far too many cases this summer we've seen it used as a substitute for - not an adjunct to - traditional influenza surveillance.  Even when H5 signals have been detected - or human infections have been confirmed - many states have refused help from the CDC's epidemiological detectives. 

Despite the remarkable work by the teams uncovering H5 detections at 24 sites in nine states, we still don't know with any certainty whether the source was human, animal, or both.

The current strategy of `don't test, don't tell' - adopted by many states - may avoid near-term pain, embarrassment, or economic losses, but it leaves us wide open to being blindsided by a much bigger crisis down the road.  


DJ, The main reason why a lot of people do NOT learn ANY thing from history is they do not want to (face history)....

There have been quite a lot of H5N1 cases in SE Asia this year. Cambodia did confirm cases, India may be hiding info...
Lots of human H5N1 cases may result in only mild disease...so far...

Point is; If H5N1 would merge with another type of flu it may spread much faster...

If H5N1/related variant managed to reach 50% of the global population that would be 4,1 billion people...Even a CFR of 1% would mean 41 million people dying...

However the background of CoViD (Flu-Rona)  and climate collapse/wars could result in a global healthcare "crash" ...could end up in a CFR that would be much higher...

Excess deaths in most places STILL high !!!


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 12:35pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-fluview-37-2-additional-novel-flu.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-fluview-37-2-additional-novel-flu.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-fluview-37-2-additional-novel-flu.html ;
While we wait for the next shoe to drop on HPAI H5, since 2010 we've seen  https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/Novel_Influenza.html - more than 500 scattered reports  of infection with swine variant influenza viruses (H1N1v, H1N2v & H3N2v) around the nation, often associated with agricultural exhibits at county and state fairs.

A month ago (week 33) we saw  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/cdc-fluview-week-33-2-additional-novel.html - 2 Novel Flu Infections (H1N1v in Ohio & H1N2v in Pennsylvania)  and two weeks prior to that,  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/cdc-fluview-week-31-1-novel-h3n2v.html - a Novel H3N2v Infection Reported From Colorado . 

Swine variant influenza infections are indistinguishable from seasonal flu without highly specialized testing, which means many cases likely go undetected (see  http://afludiary.blogspot.com/2013/06/cid-journal-estimates-of-human.html - CID Journal: Estimates Of Human Infection From H3N2v (Jul 2011-Apr 2012 )).

Today, the CDC is reporting two more cases - this time from Minnesota - both with H3N2v, and both linked to the same county fair, although without contact with one another.  One of the patients was involved in a household illness where one family member tested positive for COVID, which muddies somewhat the investigation. 

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While most fairs have requirements the screening and barring of `sick pigs' from exhibition, over the years we've learned that many pigs may be infected asymptomatically (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2012/08/eid-journal-flu-in-healthy-looking-pigs.html - EID Journal: Flu In Healthy-Looking Pigs  and  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2017/08/eid-journal-transmission-of-swine-h3n2_17.html - Transmission Of Swine H3N2 To Humans At Agricultural Exhibits - Michigan & Ohio 2016) .

Although the public health risks are considered low, the  https://www.cdc.gov/flu/swineflu/prevention.html - CDC advises  those who are at higher risk of serious flu complications (including children under 5, adults over 65, pregnant women, and those with certain chronic medical conditions), to avoid pigs and the swine barn altogether.
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DJ, There are lots of pigs/swine worldwide...so a lot of hosts for "swine-flu"...with also 8,2 billion human hosts 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263963/number-of-pigs-worldwide-since-1990/ - https://www.statista.com/statistics/263963/number-of-pigs-worldwide-since-1990/ or https://www.statista.com/statistics/263963/number-of-pigs-worldwide-since-1990/ ;Pigs are one of the most commonly raised animals in the world. They are the primary protein source for millions of people across numerous different cultures and geographical regions. In 2023, there were over 778 million pigs worldwide, decreasing from around 784 million heads in the previous year.

DJ, Co-infections may be a major risk. A pig can catch some diseases with limited symptoms in pigs-high(er) risk for humans (pig-corona virus a risk ?)
The above number excludes swines in the wild...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2024 at 7:07am
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/who-don-avian-influenza-ah9n2-ghana.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/who-don-avian-influenza-ah9n2-ghana.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/who-don-avian-influenza-ah9n2-ghana.html ;

Although it ranks relatively low on our pandemic watch list, over the past 26 years we've seen nearly 140 H9N2 human infections officially reported from around the globe, with roughly 90% of those coming from China.
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As an LPAI (low path avian influenza), H9N2 is not considered a `reportable' disease by  https://www.woah.org/ - WOAH  (formerly the OIE), even though it is clearly zoonotic. We've seen  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2018/12/j-infect-public-health-high.html - seroprevalence studies  showing people with exposure to infected poultry often develop H9 antibodies, suggesting mild or asymptomatic infection. 

Most known cases have been mild or moderate, and occur predominantly in small children, but earlier this year we saw  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/04/vietnam-moh-statements-on-ah9-case-in.html - a severe case in an adult in Vietnam,  and in 2021  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2021/11/ecdc-fatal-h9n2-case-in-china-risk.html - a fatal outcome in a 39-year old male in China . 

H9N2 infection is likely under reported, since the virus is widespread across Asia, and has made inroads into the Middle East and Sub-Saharan Africa; all regions where testing and surveillance are likely to be sub-optimal. 

While we've seen a handful of H9N2 cases in Africa (4 in Egypt, 1 in Senegal), today's report is the first from Ghana.  The patient, a 5 year-old boy, reportedly had no contact with poultry or anyone with influenza-like symptoms. 

It isn't clear from this report why this case - which according to the narrative originally tested positive for H3N2 - was given additional scrutiny and retested, yielding the H9N2 diagnosis.
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The patient is a child under five years old, residing in the Upper East region, which is located on the border with Burkina Faso.

The onset of the illness occurred on 5 May 2024, characterized by a sore throat, fever, and cough. On 7 May, the patient was seen at a local hospital, received a diagnosis of influenza-like illness, and was treated with antipyretics, antihistamines and antibiotics.

Respiratory samples collected on 7 May, tested positive for seasonal influenza A(H3N2) virus by polymerase chain reaction (PCR) on 15 May at the Ghana National Influenza Centre (NIC), Noguchi Memorial Institute for Medical Research.

On 9 July, genomic sequence analysis conducted by the Ghana NIC indicated an avian influenza A(H9) virus. Subsequently, an aliquot of the sample was dispatched to WHO Collaborating Centres (CC) located in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (The Francis Crick Institute) and the United States of America (the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, US CDC), for additional testing and validation. On 6 August, the US CDC confirmed the samples as positive for influenza A(H9N2) virus.
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No explanation is offered regarding the original H3N2 PCR test result, or why they revisited the sample more than a month later. While a suspected co-infection scenario is possible, I would have expected that to be directly addressed in this report.  

Hopefully more information will be forthcoming. 

The CDC has designated 2 different lineages ( https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/monitoring/virus-description.html?Sort=Flu%20Date%3A%3Adesc&Search=H9N2 - A(H9N2) G1  and  https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pdf/IR-001Rev0D-CDC-IRAT-Virus-Report_H9N2_2019.pdf - A(H9N2) Y280 ) for their short list of influenza viruses with zoonotic potential (see  https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/whats-new/cdcs-influenza-risk-assessment-tool.html - CDC IRAT SCORE ), and  https://www.who.int/teams/global-influenza-programme/avian-influenza/vaccine-viruses/docs/default-source/influenza/cvvs/zoonotic-cvv/h9n2/summary_a_h9n2_cvv_nh2021_22_20210305 - several candidate vaccines have been developed . 

H9N2's greatest claim to fame, however, is its ability to reassort with other - sometimes far more worrisome - viruses.  Often, when new HPAI flu strains emerge – if you look deep enough – you’ll find LPAI H9N2 was part of the process.

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Six years ago, in https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2018/12/eid-journal-two-h9n2-studies-of-note.html -   https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2018/12/eid-journal-two-h9n2-studies-of-note.html - EID Journal: Two H9N2 Studies Of Note https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2018/12/eid-journal-two-h9n2-studies-of-note.html - ,  we looked at two reports which suggested that H9N2 continues to evolve away from current (pre-pandemic and poultry) vaccines and is potentially on a path towards better adaptation to human hosts. 

Last fall, in  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/11/bmj-global-historical-trends.html - BMJ Global: Historical Trends Demonstrate a Pattern of Increasingly Frequent & Severe Zoonotic Spillover Events , the authors suggested `. . . that the series of recent epidemics sparked by zoonotic spillover are not an aberration or random cluster, but follow a multi-decade trend in which spillover-driven epidemics have become both larger and more frequent.'

Which means that even if we are lucky enough that the current HPAI H5N1 threat fizzles, there is almost certainly another pandemic contender in the wings, waiting to begin its world tour.
see also; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H9N2#Transmission_from_chicken_to_human - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H9N2#Transmission_from_chicken_to_human or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H9N2#Transmission_from_chicken_to_human 
H9N2 viruses isolated from chickens in China showed antigenic drift that evolved into distinct antigenic groups. This antigenic drift may have led to immunization failure and may explain the current prevalence of the H9N2 influenza virus in China. The identification of amino acids in H9 antigenic sites revealed different distribution of antigenic areas among other subtypes. Multiple amino acid positions in HA protein related to the antigenicity of H9N2 viruses were identified, most of which located in the distal head of the HA trimer. H9N2 influenza virus has been recognized to reassort with multiple other subtypes, including  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H6N1 - H6N1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H6N2 - H6N2 , and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1 - H5N1  viruses. 
Moreover,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H7N9 - H7N9  influenza viruses continued to reassort with circulating H9N2 viruses, resulting in multiple genotypes of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H7N9 - H7N9  viruses. The contribution of H9N2 genes, especially ribonucleoprotein (RNP) genes, to the infection in human needs to be determined. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H9N2#cite_note-H9N2-4 -


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2024 at 11:39pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-update-on-missouri-h5-case-3rd.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-update-on-missouri-h5-case-3rd.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-update-on-missouri-h5-case-3rd.html ;

A week ago, in  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-update-on-missouri-h5-case-details.html - CDC Update On Missouri H5 Case - Details On Two Symptomatic Contacts , we belatedly learned of two symptomatic contacts of the Missouri H5 case, which the CDC described as:

  • One household contact of the patient became ill with similar symptoms on the same day as the case, was not tested, and has since recovered.
  • Also shared by Missouri, subsequently, a second close contact of the case – a health care worker – developed mild symptoms and tested negative for flu.
Late yesterday, the CDC announced that Missouri has informed them of a 3rd symptomatic contact - again in a Health Care Worker - who, like the household contact, was not tested.  

Although this lack of testing is disappointing, the index patient - who was hospitalized on Aug 22nd - was only identified as having HPAI H5 retrospectively, during the first week of September.  Since the `window' for PCR testing for influenza is relatively brief, delayed follow-up epidemiological investigations can be difficult.  

Hopefully serological testing will provide additional information, assuming these contacts consent. 

Given the circumstances, it is entirely possible we'll never get a satisfactory answer as to how this person in Missouri was infected.  


The fact that no further cases have turned up, a full month after the index case, is encouraging. 

DJ, There is NOT "a fact no further cases did turn up" ! The reporting on US H5N1 is a disaster in itself ! A/mild-symptomatic spread is VERY likely !!!

So "do not test-do not tell" is "encouraging"??? Please wake up !
https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list?view=stream ...no doubt may get updated...To at least get some basic idea...

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H9N2 cases detected in Ghana, China (2x) ...with flu-season starting to spread...Also "human cases of pig-flu/H3N2" detected...

We may be in for some nasty new flu-variants...

With CoViD damaging immunity "Flu-Rona" will get more room...

Again-I am NOT any kind of expert-just trying to get some basic understanding...Hope to be very wrong !


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2024 at 1:12pm
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DJ, with hardly any testing...

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Nature: Is bird flu spreading among people? “The fear is that the virus is spreading within the community at low levels, and this is the first time that we’re detecting it. There’s no data to suggest that to be the case, but that’s the fear.”

link; https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03089-8 - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03089-8 or https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03089-8 ;

All eyes are on Missouri.

Researchers are anxiously awaiting data from the midwestern state about a mysterious bird flu infection in a person who had no known contact with potential animal carriers of the disease. The data could reveal whether  https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-01256-5 - the ongoing US bird flu outbreak in dairy cattle  has reached a dreaded turning point: the emergence of a virus capable of spreading from human to human.

Thus far, data from the mysterious infection are few and far between: small snippets of the H5N1 virus’s genome sequence and an incomplete infection timeline. Ratcheting up concerns is the fact that no Missouri dairy farms have reported a  https://www.nature.com/collections/jicdgbcgda - bird  https://www.nature.com/collections/jicdgbcgda - flu  outbreak; this might be because there really are no infections, or because the state does not require farmers to test their cows for the virus.

“The fear is that the virus is spreading within the community at low levels, and this is the first time that we’re detecting it,” says Scott Hensley, a viral immunologist at the University of Pennsylvania Perelman School of Medicine in Philadelphia. “There’s no data to suggest that to be the case, but that’s the fear.”


DJ, The Missouri case may have spread to two health workers. https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-update-on-missouri-h5-case-3rd.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-update-on-missouri-h5-case-3rd.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-update-on-missouri-h5-case-3rd.html 

There have been claims from Oregon earlier on H2H H5N1 spread...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2024 at 11:48pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/california-number-of-infected-dairy.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/california-number-of-infected-dairy.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/california-number-of-infected-dairy.html ;

Monday, September 23, 2024

California: Number of Infected Dairy Herds Double (n=34) Over the Weekend


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A little over 3 weeks ago California reported their first detection of HPAI in dairy cattle (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/08/california-cdfa-confirms-hpai-h5-in-3.html - California: CDFA Confirms HPAI H5 In 3 Dairy Herds ). Since then, we've seen a slow, but steady rise in infected farms, which as of late last week sat at 17.

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Testing of dairy cattle for HPAI H5 remains limited in California, which boasts the most dairies in the nation.  While the California CDFA's website does not yet reflect the latest numbers posted by the USDA, the number of known infected dairies appears to have doubled over the weekend to 34.

I say `appears' because the listing (see below) only lists 31 dairies affected, but some numbers have been skipped.  But, if we've learned anything from this slow-rolling fiasco, it is to take these numbers with a very large grain of salt. 

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Once again, we find the old adage is true: the more you test, the more you are apt to find.  

Although the dairy industry may not like what might be revealed, it is imperative that we start proactively testing for this virus on a weekly basis in all dairy farms across the nation. 

Otherwise, we're simply wearing blinders, and waiting for the next hoof to drop. 

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Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 1:55am
Sadly not "new news";

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/local-regional-communities-and-organizations/cidrap/997474-cidrap-review-finds-serious-gaps-in-steps-to-control-avian-flu-in-mammals - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/local-regional-communities-and-organizations/cidrap/997474-cidrap-review-finds-serious-gaps-in-steps-to-control-avian-flu-in-mammals or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/local-regional-communities-and-organizations/cidrap/997474-cidrap-review-finds-serious-gaps-in-steps-to-control-avian-flu-in-mammals ;

CIDRAP- Review finds serious gaps in steps to control avian flu in mammals

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/review-finds-serious-gaps-steps-control-avian-flu-mammals - https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-inf...an-flu-mammals

Review finds serious gaps in steps to control avian flu in mammals



https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/lisa-schnirring - Lisa Schnirring


48 minutes ago.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu - Avian Influenza (Bird Flu)  Global strategies to control mammal-to-mammal avian flu transmission aren't working and pose an ongoing threat to people, especially as the viruses become entrenched in Europe and the Americas, according a team of virologists led by the United Kingdom's Pirbright Institute.

Their bird's-eye view of the current H5N1 avian influenza panzootic in mammals appeared yesterday in  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08054-z - Assessing fur farms, marine mammals, dairy cows


The scientists examined outbreaks in European fur farms, South American marine mammals, and US dairy cattle, noting the diversity of the species, along with changes in the ecology and molecular evolution of H5N1 in wild and domestic birds that increase the chances for spillover to a variety of mammals.

Also, the team laid out different evolutionary pathways that could turn the influenza panzootic into a human pandemic virus.

Their analysis comes as H5N1 outbreaks continue in US dairy cattle and as health officials in Missouri try to pin down the source of a recent human infection with no known animal or raw milk exposure and discern whether three other contacts with symptoms may have been infected with the same virus.

Tom Peacock, PhD, first author of the paper and a zoonotic flu specialist at Pirbright, said in a  https://www.pirbright.ac.uk/news/2024/09/review-shows-bird-flu-control-strategies-%E2%80%98not-working%E2%80%99 - news release  that influenza A viruses have triggered more pandemics than any other pathogen, and pigs have historically been considered the intermediary hosts. "However, the altered ecology of H5N1 has opened the door to new evolutionary pathways," he said.

Shortcomings of control measures in cattle, wildlife


The experts underscored several potential gaps in controlling the virus, including reluctance to pursue modern vaccine and surveillance technologies and sparse data regarding transmission of H5N1 between cows and humans on dairy farms in the United States.

In the past, US cattle producers eradicated foot-and-mouth disease by rapidly sharing data. The authors note, however, that months of missing data on the extent of the spread on US dairy farms leaves researchers, veterinarians, and policymakers in the dark.

Very few states are doing bulk-tank testing to proactively look for the virus. "H5N1 is a reportable disease in poultry, but not mammals, in the US," Peacock said. "The US Department of Agriculture requires H5N1 testing only in lactating cattle prior to interstate movement."

What keeps scientists up at night is the possibility of unseen chains of transmission silently spreading.

The group also pointed to a gap in wildlife testing, which currently involves just carcass testing. The authors said testing the animals while they are alive could help identify any undetected circulation that might be occurring.

"What keeps scientists up at night is the possibility of unseen chains of transmission silently spreading through farm worker barracks, swine barns, or developing countries, evolving under the radar because testing criteria are narrow, government authorities are feared, or resources are thin," they wrote.

Severity in humans unclear


If the current H5N1 virus starts spreading readily in people, disease severity is unclear, given that recent infections have a greatly lower case-fatality rate—with the illness mainly consisting of eye symptoms—compared to the earlier H5N1 virus that circulated in Asia.

Older people might have partial immunity the H5N1 due to childhood exposure to similar viruses, and people born since the 1968 H3N2 flu pandemic might be more susceptible, the authors said.


DJ, My view-governments are doing all they can NOT to stop CoViD-even create other pandemics (flu, Mpox etc.) on top of it...

Just like with "climate" -the only thing "politicians-for-sale" care about is profits/donors...

We are in a bankrupt politicl system destroying the planet...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2024 at 12:01pm
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US: Four more health care workers reported illnesses after caring for bird flu case in Missouri "Four additional health care workers who developed mild respiratory illness symptoms after caring for the patient in hospital in August." Stat news
See also; https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/missouri/996496-us-human-h5n1-bird-flu-case-confirmed-in-missouri-september-06-2024?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/missouri/996496-us-human-h5n1-bird-flu-case-confirmed-in-missouri-september-06-2024?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/missouri/996496-us-human-h5n1-bird-flu-case-confirmed-in-missouri-september-06-2024?view=stream ;
Missouri identified two health care workers who were exposed to the hospitalized case before droplet precautions were instituted (i.e., higher risk exposure) and subsequently developed mild respiratory symptoms (among 18 workers with this higher risk exposure); one tested negative for influenza by PCR, as previously reported, and the second provided a blood specimen for testing by CDC for potential influenza A(H5N1) antibodies. 

Missouri has since identified four additional health care workers who later developed mild respiratory symptoms. 

One of these workers was in the higher risk category and provided a blood specimen for H5 antibody testing. 

Three of these workers are among 94 workers who were exposed to the hospitalized case of avian influenza A(H5) after droplet precautions were instituted (i.e., lower risk exposure); blood specimens for those who became symptomatic have been collected for H5 antibody testing at CDC. 

Aside from the one health care worker reported to have tested negative for influenza by PCR, the five remaining exposed health care workers had only mild symptoms and were not tested by PCR for respiratory infections. 

PCR testing would have been unreliable at the time of discovery of these individuals' prior symptoms. 

The health care worker monitoring effort has been part of the ongoing investigation as previously reported. Results of serology testing at CDC on the positive case and their previously identified household contact are still pending. 

To date, only one case of influenza A(H5N1) has been detected in Missouri. No contacts of that case have tested positive for influenza A(H5N1). 

CDC continues to closely monitor available data from influenza surveillance systems, particularly in affected states, and there has been no sign of unusual influenza activity in people, including in Missouri.

DJ, By NOT testing in time "one can control the number of confirmed cases"....

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-updates-missouri-h5-case-sept-27th.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-updates-missouri-h5-case-sept-27th.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-updates-missouri-h5-case-sept-27th.html ;

The on-going saga of symptomatic contacts with the Missouri H5 case from last August continues this afternoon with the revelation in this  https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/h5n1-response-09272024.html - week's CDC H5N1 update  that Missouri has notified them of  4 more symptomatic Health Care Workers who were in contact with the index case. 

As you'll recall, two weeks ago we learned of  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-update-on-missouri-h5-case-details.html - Two Symptomatic Contacts ; one a close family member, and the other a HCW. The family member was not tested, and the HCW tested negative for influenza (test type not specified). 

A week later (Sept 21st) a  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-update-on-missouri-h5-case-3rd.html - 3rd Symptomatic Contact Announced , again an HCW, who was not tested. 

Today, more than a month after the index case was hospitalized, and > 3 weeks since the index case was confirmed with HPAI H5, we learn of 4 more symptomatic HCWs.  Unfortunately, no timely PCR testing was done on any of these cases. 

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It is entirely possible - perhaps even likely - that these respiratory infections were unrelated to the H5 case.  But the optics on this are bad, and getting worse with every delayed revelation.

DJ, maybe because of the november elections H5N1, Mpox cases are not supposed to spread/be detected ???


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2024 at 11:40pm
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-updated-sept-27th-information-for.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-updated-sept-27th-information-for.html   or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-updated-sept-27th-information-for.html ;

Last April - after  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/04/texas-dshs-health-alert-1st-human-case.html - the first confirmed HPAI H5 infection in a dairy worker  - the CDC issued initial guidance on PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) for farm workers who may be exposed to suspected or confirmed HPAI infected cattle (see  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/04/cdc-han-00506-hpai-ah5n1-virus.html - CDC HAN #00506 ) along with safety  https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/veterinarians-handling-cats.htm - Considerations for Veterinarians  working with potentially infected cats. 

In May, the CDC released  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/05/cdc-recommendations-on-making-ppe.html - Recommendations On Making PPE Available To Workers on Dairy Farms, Poultry Farms, and in Slaughterhouses .  

Even though the number of infected farm workers has grown (n=13) over the summer, the CDC has no legal authority to enforce compliance with these measures, and we've seen considerable resistance from farmers (see STAT news  https://www.statnews.com/2024/05/10/bird-flu-virus-dairy-farmers-resist-ppe-recommendation/ - Farmers resist push for workers to wear protective gear against bird flu virus ).

Admittedly, the recommended PPE can be unbearably hot (particularly during the summer months), can restrict movement and communication (both safety issues), and can be difficult to properly don and doff.  

While it involves some significant compromises, earlier this month the Journal of Infectious Diseases published an article calling for PPE against HPAI H5N1 to  https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/230/3/543/7758743 - Be Adapted to Meet the Needs of Dairy Farm Workers . 

On Friday (Sept 27th) the CDC published updated guidance for farm workers (below) - and  https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/prevention/worker-protection-ppe.html - more detailed guidance for their Employers  -  including several new graphics.  

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I expect some of these recommendations (e.g. Do not eat, drink, touch your phone, smoke, vape, chew gum, dip tobacco, or use the bathroom while wearing PPEsare going to be a hard sell to employees, assuming employers are willing to implement these measures. 

The updated  https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/prevention/worker-protection-ppe.html - guidance for Employers  is much longer, and far more detailed, although it is worth noting that the word `should' appears 40 times (see brief excerpt below), which generally indicates a recommendationnot a requirement.

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I'll leave the finer legal distinctions between `should' and `must', and what constitutes a `. . . place of employment, which are free from recognized hazards that are causing or are likely to cause death or serious physical harm', to the lawyers and the courts.

While it is important to have the `best practices' laid out by the CDC, for now it still appears largely up to the individual farm owner and/or operator whether, or to what extent, they are willing to follow these recommendations. 

And so far, they haven't shown much enthusiasm in doing so.

DJ, this is how one does NOT contain a known H5N1 -potential high risk- outbreak...
H5N1 very likely is much more widespread in many countries...SO FAR often only resulting in mild illness...Untill it does mix with other types of flu, co-infect with other diseases (CoViD)....

DJ-The risks should be known...and STILL there is no real action...

Crazy is the new normal....


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2024 at 10:56pm
DJ, Somehow this escaped censorship/"news control";

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DJ... https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/10/cdc-statement-on-california-h5-cases-n2.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/10/cdc-statement-on-california-h5-cases-n2.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/10/cdc-statement-on-california-h5-cases-n2.html ;

The CDC has published a brief statement on the two California H5 cases reported earlier today.  Testing is underway to determine the full subtype, but it is highly likely to match the H5N1 virus known to be circulating in Dairy cattle. 

.......DJ-my view; H5N1 very likely is widespread in the US, both in humans and other animals...

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More than half of cats drinking raw milk at dairy farms w/H5N1 have died. Here's what their hemorrhagic brain looks like. Reports describe muscle atrophy, blindness, circling, copious nasal discharge, stiffness & brain cell necrosis in cats w/bird flu.

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/3/bird-flu-suspected-of-killing-dozens-of-captive-tigers-in-vietnam - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/3/bird-flu-suspected-of-killing-dozens-of-captive-tigers-in-vietnam or https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/3/bird-flu-suspected-of-killing-dozens-of-captive-tigers-in-vietnam ;

Dozens of tigers, three lions and a panther have died in zoos in southern Vietnam, with subsequent tests detecting cases of bird flu.

The country’s Ministry of Health said in a statement on Thursday that two samples taken from dead tigers at Mango Garden Resort in Dong Nai province tested positive for the H5N1 strain of bird flu.

DJ, So if you put infected milk/meat in a cat-like animal they catch the virus and die...

The only thing "new" about it is that we keep repeating this insanity over and over....


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2024 at 1:54am
https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/south-vietnam-emerging-as-a-hub-for-a-possible-new-h5n1-strain-as-47-tigers-3-lions-and-a-panther-dies-from-the-virus - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/south-vietnam-emerging-as-a-hub-for-a-possible-new-h5n1-strain-as-47-tigers-3-lions-and-a-panther-dies-from-the-virus or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/south-vietnam-emerging-as-a-hub-for-a-possible-new-h5n1-strain-as-47-tigers-3-lions-and-a-panther-dies-from-the-virus ;

TMN claiming three staff members of the involved zoo's developed eye infection/mild symptoms...possibly more cases in other staff/visitors (???)

DJ, https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/asia/h5n1-h5n8-h1n08-tracking/vietnam-aa/997778-vietnam-several-tigers-lions-died-suspected-of-being-infected-with-a-h5n1-flu-at-zoo-one-is-test-confirmed-positive-more-possible-at-a-reserve-no-symptoms-recorded-in-people-exposed-october-1-2024?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/asia/h5n1-h5n8-h1n08-tracking/vietnam-aa/997778-vietnam-several-tigers-lions-died-suspected-of-being-infected-with-a-h5n1-flu-at-zoo-one-is-test-confirmed-positive-more-possible-at-a-reserve-no-symptoms-recorded-in-people-exposed-october-1-2024?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/asia/h5n1-h5n8-h1n08-tracking/vietnam-aa/997778-vietnam-several-tigers-lions-died-suspected-of-being-infected-with-a-h5n1-flu-at-zoo-one-is-test-confirmed-positive-more-possible-at-a-reserve-no-symptoms-recorded-in-people-exposed-october-1-2024?view=stream 

and https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/10/media-reports-of-tiger-deaths-due-to.html - https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/10/media-reports-of-tiger-deaths-due-to.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/10/media-reports-of-tiger-deaths-due-to.html 

-so far only TMN/Thailand Medical News reporting H5N1 spread from zoo animals (and at least one cat ?) to humans...

-The US H5N1 "epidemic" did see cattle spreading the H5N1 virus to farm workers....

In both cases (US, Vietnam) no "real proof yet" of human-to-human spread of H5N1...but a main reason may be not looking for it/mild symptoms...

-More info on CoViD-infection history (if possible for both human and animal cases) would be very helpfull....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932024_H5N1_outbreak#2024 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932024_H5N1_outbreak#2024 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932024_H5N1_outbreak#2024 in need of an update may be welcome !

For the US https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list?view=stream (latest)  may be of use....

DJ-Most cases of H5N1 -like Mpox, CoViD- will not see any testing...In lots of places people may even die from H5N1 infection...without prper testing & reporting...

With H5N1 now spreading -and at least some reporting on it- in the US and SE Asia I think H5N1 should be seen as a pandemic....

For political/economic reasons "denial" will be the dominant strategy-again...

Co-infection with CoViD "Flu-Rona" will mean excess deaths only further increasing..."the new normal"....


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Date Posted: 05 Oct 2024 at 10:54pm
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DJ-California central valley cattle to human spread...Maybe the most surprising element is "someone is testing for H5N1"....

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DJ, One of my questions; Do US cattle still have to eat "poultry litter"? So H5N1 is spreading from chicken/ducks etc into cattle ? 

WHY ?????

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While there have been calls for the wearing of PPEs by farm workers since April, anecdotal reports suggest their use has been less than optimal. 
With at least 56 dairy herds infected with HPAI H5 (see below) in California alone, and more detections likely, it isn't surprising that a 3rd human infection has been reported. Nor would it be surprising to see that number rise in the days ahead. 
While people may be reassured by the mild symptoms reported in American farm workers, each human infection - and each spillover into other mammals - is another opportunity for the virus to better adapt to non-avian hosts. 

And, as we've seen in hard-hit felines, rodents, foxes, and and marine mammals, there are no guarantees it will remain mild for humans. 
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On the same morning, the Department of Animal Husbandry and Veterinary Medicine of Dong Nai province worked with the leaders of Vuon Xoai Eco-tourism Area and the units supplying chickens for animal feed here. According to the representative of the tourist area, the source of animal feed is provided by a business household in Bac Son commune, Trang Bom district. This business household imports chickens from many other enterprises in Dong Nai province. From August 6 to September 6, the tourist area imported a total of nearly 6.6 tons of chicken meat products, including more than 5.1 tons of chicken heads and necks and nearly 1.5 tons of chicken breasts, with a daily or weekly import frequency depending on the time.

At the meeting, the Department of Animal Husbandry and Veterinary Medicine of Dong Nai province requested the chicken trading unit to provide invoices so that the authorities can continue to trace the origin of chicken used as animal feed at Vuon Xoai Eco-tourism Area.

Previously, on October 3, Dong Nai province authorities destroyed 20 tigers and 1 leopard that died due to suspected infection with A/H5N1 flu.
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Long An: source of infection unknown

On October 3, Mr. Huynh Huu Dung - Director of the Center for Disease Control of Long An province - said that the health of three people who had direct contact with and cared for the dead animals at My Quynh zoo (Bau Cong hamlet, Tan My commune, Duc Hoa district, Long An) is still normal, with no recorded cough or fever.

The three people include a zoo veterinarian and two animal care and feeding staff.

Other (TMN) sources claim these three zoo-workers had mild symptoms...
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Again -DJ- The US and SE Asia keep reporting H5N1 spread from infected animals (in part mammals)  to humans...

In the past we did see years with far higher numbers of H5N1 human cases-however it was limited often to one region...

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H5N6 and H5N8 viruses with the H5-2.3.4.4b  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemagglutinin_%28influenza%29 - hemagglutinin  (HA) gene became prominent globally in 2018–2020. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932024_H5N1_outbreak#cite_note-cdc-graphic-8 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932024_H5N1_outbreak#cite_note-10 -  In 2020,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reassortment - reassortment  (genetic "swapping") between these H5-2.3.4.4b viruses and other  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strain_%28biology%29 - strains  of avian influenza led to the emergence of a H5N1 strain with a H5-2.3.4.4b gene. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932024_H5N1_outbreak#cite_note-cdc-graphic-8 -  The virus then spread across Europe, detected there in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autumn - autumn , before spreading to  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa - Africa  and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia - Asia . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932024_H5N1_outbreak#cite_note-:0-1 -  It continues to swap genes with local flu viruses as it travels the globe.

DJ, H5N1 is mild untill it is not...H5N1 WILL mix with H1N1, H3N2 (etc)...very likely will co-spread with CoViD (both go for "weak spots in immunity" in hosts)

We are on our way to a multi-disease-pandemic on a level health care worldwide simply will be unable to deal with...


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https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/as-more-cows-infected-with-h5n1-in-california-are-dying,-concerns-rise-that-the-virus-could-have-mutated - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/as-more-cows-infected-with-h5n1-in-california-are-dying,-concerns-rise-that-the-virus-could-have-mutated or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/as-more-cows-infected-with-h5n1-in-california-are-dying,-concerns-rise-that-the-virus-could-have-mutated ; Expected deaths was 2%...by now however 10-15% of infected cattle die from H5N1. 

Bacterial pneumonia on top of the H5N1 infection worsens the outlook. 

Also temperature 100F+/35C+ is a factor. 

DJ, It will show in human cases...One of the aspects of Spanish Flu/H1N1 -1917-23 was bacterial co-infection...

Unclear is if cattle can catch CoViD-maybe without symptoms-but maybe with immunity damage ? 

For farmworkers eye protection, masks to cover mouth/nose does limit risks...It would be welcome if some fashion designer could make a "cooling mask" - so also welcome during heatwaves...

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‘More serious than we had hoped’: Bird flu deaths mount among California dairy cows

​Since the end of August, the Central Valley has suffered multiple heat waves, with daytime temperatures exceeding 100 degrees.

“Heat stress is always a problem in dairy cattle here in California,” he said. “So you take that, you add in this virus, which does have some affinity for the respiratory tract ... we always see a little bit of snotty noses and heavy breathing in animals that are affected ... and for some of them, just the stress takes them.”

Indeed, most of the deaths are not directly the result of the virus, he said, but are “virus adjacent.” For instance, he has seen a lot of bacterial pneumonia, which is likely the result of the cow’s depressed immune system, as well as bloat.

Although dairy operators had been told to expect a mortality rate of less than 2%, preliminary reports suggest that 10% to 15% of infected cattle are dying, according to veterinarians and dairy farmers.

“I was shocked the first time I encountered it in one of my herds,” said Maxwell Beal, a Central Valley-based veterinarian who has been treating infected herds in California since late August. “It was just like, wow. Production-wise, this is a lot more serious than than we had hoped. And health-wise, it’s a lot more serious than we had been led to believe.”

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He said that when the cows aren’t feeling well, they often don’t eat.

“The digestive tract, or rumen, basically requires movement. There has to be things moving out of that rumen constantly in order for the pH balance and microbiome to stay where it should be,” he said. So, when they’re not eating, things in the digestive tract stagnate.

That, in turn, causes them to “asphyxiate because their diaphragm has too much pressure on it.”

In addition, he and others are seeing a lot of variation in the duration of illness.

Although early reports had suggested that the virus seemed mild and lasted only about a week or two, others are seeing it last several weeks. According to the industry newsletter, at one dairy, cows were shedding the virus 14 days before they showed clinical signs of illness. It then took three more weeks for the cows to get rid of the virus.

They’re also noticing the virus is affecting larger percentages of herds — in some cases, 50% to 60% of the animals. This is much more than the 10% that had been previously reported.

Some say the actual rate may be even higher.

“I would speculate infection is even higher; 50[% to] 60% are showing clinical signs due to heat stress or better herd monitoring earlier in infection. Unfortunately, few or no herds have been assessed retrospectively through serology testing to determine actual infection rates,” said John Korslund, a retired U.S. Department of Agriculture veterinarian epidemiologist.

... https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-10-04/bird-flu-deaths-increasing-among-california-dairy-cows - https://www.latimes.com/environment/...nia-dairy-cows

DJ, So it is most likely a matter of time before human H5N1 cases in the US show more serious symptoms. Testing for co-infections may also limit risks...



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Date Posted: 11 Oct 2024 at 12:41am
As expected....

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DJ, In the US there must be "dozens if not hundreds" of human H5N1 infections..."Do not test-do not tell" certainly not with new US elections less then 4 weeks from now...

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The show goes on at World Dairy Expo despite threat of avian flu
The Dairy Summit is scheduled for Nov. 20 in Madison.

As a kid, Josh Gerbitz was last in the show ring at the World Dairy Expo. This year, he is at the annual event to watch the children of a family friend show his jersey cow, Captain.
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But Gerbitz said the emergence of avian influenza in dairy herds across the country caused some initial concerns for himself and other Expo participants.
“(Disease is) always something we’ve had to be aware of, but there was probably a little bit of heightened awareness for it this year,” he said. “But since everyone has tested, and our cow came back negative. We felt really good about still being able to come this year. And I’m glad it didn’t do anything to hinder this show from happening.”​
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Emily Yeiser Stepp, a member of the World Dairy Expo Board of Directors, said they began discussing how the new disease in cattle could affect the event back in March. She said they worked with the federal and state agriculture departments to make sure participants were following required testing for influenza.

The World Dairy Expo had more than 3,000 entries this year, which Yeiser Stepp said is likely to be a record for the event.

-DJ-Likely hundreds of California cattle farms see H5N1 killing over 10% of the cattle...A main reason why human-to-human H5N1 spread may not be detected is the focus on cattle-to-human spread....
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Iceland - Outbreaks of highly pathogenic avian influenza H5N5 in wild birds 2023

Iceland - Influenza A viruses of high pathogenicity (Inf. with) (non-poultry including wild birds) (2017-) - Immediate notification

DJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H5 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H5 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H5 -the H5N5 variant is not yet in this wiki-list...

Again, likely H5N1 human spread in both North America and SE Asia....

The main point/choice is NOT to test...




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In this week's spotlight, CDC confirms three additional cases of H5 bird flu in California, bringing the total in that state to six; shares a summary of genetic sequencing data of H5N1 bird flu viruses from California available to date; shares information about a new pilot program to test symptomatic farm and dairy workers for H5 bird flu; and provides an update on a program to offer free seasonal flu vaccines this season to farm workers in states affected by H5N1 bird flu.

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DJ, makes matters worse...


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H5N1 has been on the radar of everyone involved in biosecurity and pandemic preparedness since 1997. I never, ever thought I would see the day when corpses of cows killed by it were left to rot with zero - zero - biosecurity measures in place.
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You can see more photos and videos here: https://t.co/TGEtyeS4b8 - Anja Raudabaugh, CEO of Western United Dairies—the trade organization representing Mendonsa Farms said, “There are so many cattle passing away from avian influenza that the rendering trucks are backed up, which is why [the cattle] had been left there for a period of time…We are desperately overwhelmed at this point.” The animal-based protein industry always finds itself in these situations. The large-scale confinement of animals creates an arms race against nature and puts us in impossible circumstances with no good solutions. But there are some things we can do—we can educate the public, protect workers and financially support them directly instead of bailing out large corporations, and redirect public funds towards supporting animal-free methods of food production. In the meantime, we need mandatory statewide bulk milk tank testing, public awareness campaigns and giving workers access to seasonal flu vaccinations. We also need more people on the ground to document this unprecedented outbreak in real time. The media is ready and willing to write about this. Please reach out if you would like to join us! https://t.co/Q267PF1aoE - https://x.com/hashtag/onehealth?src=hashtag_click - #onehealth https://x.com/hashtag/h5n1?src=hashtag_click - #h5n1 https://x.com/hashtag/avianinfluenza?src=hashtag_click - #avianinfluenza https://x.com/hashtag/birdflu?src=hashtag_click - #birdflu https://x.com/hashtag/vetmed?src=hashtag_click - #vetmed https://x.com/hashtag/veterinarymedicine?src=hashtag_click - #veterinarymedicine https://x.com/hashtag/veterinarian?src=hashtag_click - #veterinarian https://x.com/hashtag/vetstudent?src=hashtag_click - #vetstudent https://x.com/hashtag/vetschool?src=hashtag_click - #vetschool https://x.com/hashtag/animalscience?src=hashtag_click - #animalscience https://x.com/hashtag/farmvet?src=hashtag_click - #farmvet https://x.com/hashtag/farmtofork?src=hashtag_click - #farmtofork https://x.com/hashtag/farmtotable?src=hashtag_click - #farmtotable https://x.com/hashtag/foodtruth?src=hashtag_click - #foodtruth https://x.com/hashtag/Animalrights?src=hashtag_click - #Animalrights https://x.com/hashtag/plantbased?src=hashtag_click - #plantbased https://x.com/hashtag/vegan?src=hashtag_click - #vegan https://x.com/hashtag/veterinaryschool?src=hashtag_click - #veterinaryschool https://x.com/hashtag/prevet?src=hashtag_click - #prevet

https://www.newsweek.com/disturbing-footage-reveals-bird-flu-infected-cattle-dumped-roadside-1967813 - https://www.newsweek.com/disturbing-footage-reveals-bird-flu-infected-cattle-dumped-roadside-1967813 or https://www.newsweek.com/disturbing-footage-reveals-bird-flu-infected-cattle-dumped-roadside-1967813;

Footage obtained by Newsweek from a California veterinarian shows dead dairy cows infected with avian influenza piled by the roadside without any biosecurity measures or warning signs.

The vet fears the dead animals could further spread the H5 bird flu outbreak which continues to ravage California cattle farms, with 100 herds affected, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ( https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/hpai-confirmed-cases-livestock - CDC ).

The videos, captured on Oct. 8 by veterinarian Crystal Heath, shows the pile of deceased dairy cows outside Mendonsa Farms, just south of Tulare, California.

These cows, confirmed to have been infected with avian influenza (H5N1), were left exposed without any warning signs or biosecurity precautions. The footage was deemed too graphic for publication.

"What was so shocking was that there was so little signage around anywhere telling the public about avian influenza and warning them of the biosecurity risks," Heath told Newsweek.

"I'm worried that wildlife could come into contact with them. We know that cats are susceptible to avian influenza; the first sign that a farm has an infection is often when cats end up dying after they've drunk raw milk."

DJ, Dead animals on the roadside-died because of H5N1 fits in ANY definition of "out of control"....When will human H5N1 cases show more serious health issues ? 

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-13-total-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-in-2024?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-13-total-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-in-2024?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-13-total-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-in-2024?view=stream 


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2024 at 10:38pm
DJ-For what it is worth-US official number of human H5N1 cases now at 20. 

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/california/997917-us-california-dept-of-public-health-statement-investigating-possible-human-case-of-bird-flu-october-3-2024-updated-cdc-confirms-6-h5-cases-1-case-test-pending-all-cattle-contact?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/california/997917-us-california-dept-of-public-health-statement-investigating-possible-human-case-of-bird-flu-october-3-2024-updated-cdc-confirms-6-h5-cases-1-case-test-pending-all-cattle-contact?view=stream

 or;

 https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/california/997917-us-california-dept-of-public-health-statement-investigating-possible-human-case-of-bird-flu-october-3-2024-updated-cdc-confirms-6-h5-cases-1-case-test-pending-all-cattle-contact?view=stream 

https://flutrackers.com/forum/filedata/fetch?id=998499&d=1728727366 - https://flutrackers.com/forum/filedata/fetch?id=998499&d=1728727366 or https://flutrackers.com/forum/filedata/fetch?id=998499&d=1728727366 

Of those 20, 10 cattle linked, 9 poultry linked, 1 unclear...

Realism indicates very likely HUNDREDS of US farmworkers may have (had) a H5N1 infection...

-"good" part;
often only -so far- mild disease
animal-to-human spread -so far

-"bad" part; 
Very likely to mix with other flu-types
Very likely to co-spread with some CoViD variants (DJ Most US farm workers will not have been vaccinated against CoViD-may have had CoViD)
Very likely-like in California cattle-disease is getting worse
Very likely human-to-human spread just a matter of time
Since farm workers came from Latin America and US -infected- cattle gets exported to Latin America H5N1 is exported to Latin America
Raw milk spread
H5N1 now widespread in lots of species/hosts...

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/california-h5n1-updates-6-humans-infected-100-dairy-herds-affected,-dead-cows-now-being-dumped-on-roadsides - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/california-h5n1-updates-6-humans-infected-100-dairy-herds-affected,-dead-cows-now-being-dumped-on-roadsides or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/california-h5n1-updates-6-humans-infected-100-dairy-herds-affected,-dead-cows-now-being-dumped-on-roadsides 

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-13-total-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-in-2024?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-13-total-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-in-2024?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-13-total-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-in-2024?view=stream -latest;


Here is the direct link to the video:

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This is so unacceptable that it is impossible to find the words. The protocol to deal with dead H5N1 animals is to dig a pit onsite and put the dead animals in the pit. There are several procedures to be done but then finally the pit is covered over with soil. This is known worldwide.

The US is looking so bad. Embarrassing, unprofessional, inept....

DJ, Human H5N1 cases must be in Latin America, India, SE Asia...very likely more places-but are NOT being reported...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2024 at 1:49am
DJ, USA-California 5 more H5N1 human cases ???/

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list?view=stream latests;

https://flutrackers.com/forum/member/18-sharon-sanders">sharon sanders
https://flutrackers.com/forum/member/18-sharon-sanders - sharon sanders  commented on  https://flutrackers.com/forum/member/512-commonground - Commonground 's  https://flutrackers.com/forum/ - reply
I copied this post from another thread. Our count is a little different, but close. The CDC is not counting the 2 Texas dairy cattle workers who had low titers who were mentioned in a research paper.
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https://flutrackers.com/forum/member/18-sharon-sanders - sharon sanders  started a topic  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/991361-us-h5n1-human-case-list - US - H5N1 Human Case List
This is a dynamic list. Details of the cases will be added.


2024 (27 total for 2024 including one case cited in research paper, not tested or confirmed by the CDC)



18 - 28)  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/california/997917-us-california-dept-of-public-health-statement-investigating-possible-human-case-of-bird-flu-october-3-2024 - United States  - 6 confirmed dairy farm workers in California, mild cases, contact with infected dairy cattlehttps://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/california/997917-us-california-dept-of-public-health-statement-investigating-possible-human-case-of-bird-flu-october-3-2024-updated-cdc-confirms-4-h5-cases-2-more-test-results-pending-all-cattle-contact?p=998381#post998381 - link  + 5 presumptive cases - CDC confirmation pending  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/california/997917-us-california-dept-of-public-health-statement-investigating-possible-human-case-of-bird-flu-october-3-2024-updated-cdc-confirms-6-h5-cases-5-cases-test-pending-all-cattle-contact?p=998547#post998547 - link

17)  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/missouri/996496-us-human-h5n1-bird-flu-case-confirmed-in-missouri-september-06-2024 - United States  - 1 person, "first case of H5 without a known occupational exposure to sick or infected animals.", recovered, Missouri.

15 - 16)  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/welcome-to-the-scientific-library/other-scientific-studies-including-seasonal-novel-flu/h5n1-research-studies-papers-academia/994601-medrxiv-a-one-health-investigation-into-h5n1-avian-influenza-virus-epizootics-on-two-dairy-farms - United States  - 2 dairy cattle farm workers in Texas in April 2024, via research paper (low titers, cases not confirmed by US CDC yet.) One worker mentioned is possibly the Texas case already known listed below.  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/987593-us-dairy-cows-test-positive-for-h5n1-avian-flu-in-texas-kansas-idaho-michigan-new-mexico-ohio-north-carolina-south-dakota-colorado-iowa-minnesota-wyoming-oklahoma-march-24-10-confirmed-human-cases?p=988024#post988024 - link ​

6 - 14, inclusive)  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/colorado/993492-colorado-state-health-officials-confirm-7-cases-of-avian-flu-in-colorado-poultry-workers-july-12 - United States  - 9 human cases in Colorado​ - poultry farmworkers - situation developing...​​

5)  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/colorado/993086-colorado-dairy-worker-tests-positive-for-bird-flu-becoming-fourth-case-tied-to-dairy-cattle-in-the-us - United States  - Dairy cattle farmworker, mild case with conjunctivitis, recovered, Colorado - reported July 3​

4)  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/michigan/991326-us-third-farm-worker-infected-2nd-case-in-michigan-may-30-2024 - United States  - Dairy cattle farmworker, mild case, respiratory, separate farm, in contact with H5 infected cows, Michigan - reported May 30

3)  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/michigan/990923-michigan-human-cases-of-h5n1-2024-1-case - United States  - Dairy cattle farmworker, mild case, ocular, in contact with H5 infected livestock, Michigan - reported May 22

2)  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/987593-us-several-samples-taken-from-dairy-cows-test-positive-for-highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-in-texas-kansas-idaho-michigan-potentially-new-mexico-march-24-one-texas-human-case-april1?p=988026#post988026 - United States  - Dairy cattle farmworker, ocular, mild case, Texas - reported April 1. This case also possibly mentioned above in a research paper. https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/welcome-to-the-scientific-library/other-scientific-studies-including-seasonal-novel-flu/h5n1-research-studies-papers-academia/994601-medrxiv-a-one-health-investigation-into-h5n1-avian-influenza-virus-epizootics-on-two-dairy-farms -  link ​



2022

1)  https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/colorado/947222-us-colorado-government-press-release-state-health-officials-investigate-a-detection-of-h5-influenza-virus-in-a-human-in-colorado-exposure-to-infected-poultry-cited-april-28-2022-cdc-statement-confirmed-h5n1 - United States  - European strain - Male, 40, poultry worker, test confirmed on April, 27, mild case. Colorado

DJ.... https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society/article/3282221/hong-kong-zoo-closed-after-8-animals-found-dead-necropsy-under-way?module=AI_Recommended_for_you_In-house&pgtype=section - https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society/article/3282221/hong-kong-zoo-closed-after-8-animals-found-dead-necropsy-under-way?module=AI_Recommended_for_you_In-house&pgtype=section or https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society/article/3282221/hong-kong-zoo-closed-after-8-animals-found-dead-necropsy-under-way?module=AI_Recommended_for_you_In-house&pgtype=section 
A ninth monkey has died at the Hong Kong Zoological and Botanical Gardens, authorities have revealed.

and https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/china-other-health-threats/hong-kong-other-diseases/998553-hong-kong-eight-monkeys-found-dead-in-the-zoological-and-botanical-gardens-hkzbg - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/china-other-health-threats/hong-kong-other-diseases/998553-hong-kong-eight-monkeys-found-dead-in-the-zoological-and-botanical-gardens-hkzbg or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/china-other-health-threats/hong-kong-other-diseases/998553-hong-kong-eight-monkeys-found-dead-in-the-zoological-and-botanical-gardens-hkzbg ;
Hong Kong Zoological and Botanical Gardens

The Leisure and Cultural Services Department (LCSD) announced today (October 14) that eight animals were found dead in the Hong Kong Zoological and Botanical Gardens (HKZBG) yesterday (October 13), including one De Brazza’s Monkey, one Common Squirrel Monkey, three Cotton-top Tamarins and three White-faced Sakis. The LCSD had liaised with the Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department. Necropsy and laboratory tests have been arranged immediately to help find out their cause of death.

While awaiting test results, the Mammals Section of the HKZBG will be closed from today for disinfection and cleaning works. We will also closely monitor the health conditions of other animals. During this period, other facilities of the HKZBG will remain open.

October 14, 2024
Also H5N1 (or flu) link ??????

Increasing testing is increase of cases...not only for the US.


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2024 at 10:44pm
DJ, Hong Kong Zoo monkeys did get the wrong food ? 
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3282418/hong-kongs-john-lee-says-sudden-monkey-deaths-must-be-contained-vows-uncover-cause?module=top_story&pgtype=section - https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3282418/hong-kongs-john-lee-says-sudden-monkey-deaths-must-be-contained-vows-uncover-cause?module=top_story&pgtype=section or https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3282418/hong-kongs-john-lee-says-sudden-monkey-deaths-must-be-contained-vows-uncover-cause?module=top_story&pgtype=section 

South China Morning Post trying to get informed...

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/china-other-health-threats/china-seasonal-flu-tracking/998665-china-recently-many-hospitals-in-shanghai-xi-an-and-other-places-have-reported-an-increase-in-flu-october-9-2024 - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/china-other-health-threats/china-seasonal-flu-tracking/998665-china-recently-many-hospitals-in-shanghai-xi-an-and-other-places-have-reported-an-increase-in-flu-october-9-2024 or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/china-other-health-threats/china-seasonal-flu-tracking/998665-china-recently-many-hospitals-in-shanghai-xi-an-and-other-places-have-reported-an-increase-in-flu-october-9-2024 ;

Recently, many hospitals in Shanghai, Xi'an and other places have reported an increase in the number of patients suffering from influenza. Nanjing Children's Hospital has received nearly 400 influenza cases since September .
According to the latest published data, the number of influenza cases reported in the national statutory infectious disease report in August 2024 has reached 169,642 cases.

more... zhttps://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1812399280343090407&wfr=spider&for=pc

DJ...so the HK-Monkey story may be flu-linked as well...? 
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H5N1 human cases were reported from the US and SE Asia. Both see animal (poultry-cattle) to human spread. Unclear how the H5N1 "situation" is in other areas...since H5N1 may result in mild/no symptoms it may be easy to miss...

Mexico did import US-Texas cattle, quite a lot of the high risk(low pay) farm workers are from Central America. 

It is very likely H5N1 human cases also will spread via raw milk consumption...So -my "view" Mexico MUST have human H5N1 infections...but so far it may be mild and not yet a priority...
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USA;

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-13-total-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-in-2024?view=stream - https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-13-total-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-in-2024?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-march-24-13-total-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-in-2024?view=stream ;
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Very high levels of Influenza A over the past few days in Turlock CA from WastewaterSCAN. Some have been subtyped and all of those subtyped have been H5. It is entirely possible that this signal is due to non-human infections. Edit, looking into this further, half of the wastewater flow comes from dairy and meat processing at this plant.

https://data.wastewaterscan.org/tracker/?charts=CicQACABSABSBmFkODZhOVoLSW5mbHVlbnphIEF4qAWKAQZiNjBmYTI%3D&selectedChartId=b60fa2 - https://data.wastewaterscan.org/tracker/?charts=CicQACABSABSBmFkODZhOVoLSW5mbHVlbnphIEF4qA WKAQZiNjBmYTI%3D&selectedChartId=b60fa2

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CDC reports 5 new human cases since last Friday. First it was “it’s only in 🦅- no big deal.” Then it was 🐈‍⬛ and then 🐄. CDC said not to worry as no human cases. Now we’re getting human cases daily, but neither WH nor media is talking about it. 🤦🏽‍♂️
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This is not a normal situation. Yes, there have been occasional spillovers of animal, influenza viruses to humans. But H5N1 is not the same. It is now a persistent, occupational hazard to agricultural workers.
DJ...the H5N1 pandemic is a pandemic not many people want to talk about...Ignoring it only worsens the global major health crisis...


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Date Posted: 17 Oct 2024 at 6:57am
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If you’re aware of the H5N1 bird flu outbreak in U.S. dairy cattle — you may have seen some headlines or read something on social media — perhaps you are wondering what the fuss is about. Yes, there have been nearly a couple dozen human cases, but all have had mild symptoms. The virus does not decimate herds in the way it does poultry flocks; most —  https://www.farmprogress.com/animal-health/avian-flu-outbreak-devastates-michigan-dairy - though not all  — of the infected cows come through the illness OK. 

If, however, you are more familiar with the history of this form of bird flu, you might be getting anxious. You might be worried that no one has figured out how one of the infected individuals,  https://www.statnews.com/2024/09/12/h5-bird-flu-human-infection-missouri-cause-remains-unknown/ - who lives in Missouri , contracted H5N1. Or you might recall that the virus has killed half of the 900-plus people known to have been infected with it over the past 27 years. Above all, you might fret that the virus is now circulating in thousands of cows in the U.S., exposing itself to some unknowable portion of the more than  https://data.bls.gov/cew/apps/table_maker/v4/table_maker.htm#type=0&year=2022&qtr=A&own=5&ind=11212&supp=0 - 100,000 dairy farmworkers in this country —   the consequences of which could be, well, disastrous. 

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Between the lines of both assessments, though, are words public health authorities rarely volunteer but  https://www.statnews.com/2024/05/03/bird-flu-why-h5n1-keeping-awake-cdc-top-flu-scientist/ - will acknowledge if pushed . As best they can tell, the risk now is low. But things could change, and if they do, the time it takes to transition from low risk to high risk may be dizzyingly brief. 

We’ve seen this type of phenomenon before. In February 2020, on the very day the WHO announced it had chosen a name for the new disease that was spreading from China — Covid-19 — senior U.S. officials speaking on  https://www.aspeninstitute.org/events/public-health-grand-rounds-at-the-aspen-institute-presents-coronavirus-the-new-pandemic/ - a Washington panel  organized by the Aspen Institute were describing the risk of spread in the U.S. as “relatively low.” Two weeks to the day later, one of those people — Nancy Messonnier, then a high-ranking CDC official — disclosed during a press conference that  https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/25/cdc-expects-community-spread-of-coronavirus-as-top-official-warns-disruptions-could-be-severe/ - she’d warned her children  over breakfast that morning that life was about to be upended.

Messonnier, who was silenced by the Trump administration for her candor, was correct. By mid–March, schools were closing, many workers were transitioning to working from home, and ambulance sirens began haunting New Yorkers as the city’s hospitals started to overflow.


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Here's everything "that friend" wants you to know about H5N1 bird flu. Assume it's already here. Assume it's airborne. Assume it's in meat and dairy. Assume it can last a long time on surfaces. Are we going to have lockdowns again? Lol, no. (Free one.)

link; https://www.the-sentinel-intelligence.com/p/everything-that-friend-wants-you-8b4?r=1age8&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web - https://www.the-sentinel-intelligence.com/p/everything-that-friend-wants-you-8b4?r=1age8&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web or https://www.the-sentinel-intelligence.com/p/everything-that-friend-wants-you-8b4?r=1age8&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web ;

Can you get sick from meat?
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- - The Journal of Food Protection explaining that if you're going to insist on eating chicken, eggs, and beef, make sure you cook them thoroughly to an internal temperature of 71.1C (160F). Don't eat them raw or even rare. Also, fun fact: About 10 percent of American beef products come from culled dairy cows.

Other mammals can get sick from eating infected meat. We know  https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2024/01/16/first-polar-bear-to-die-of-bird-flu-what-are-the-implications/ - for a fact  that bears, foxes, seals, sea lions, and  https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/30/6/23-1459_article - dogs  have gotten sick and died from bird flu by eating dead birds. As experts tell us about these infections, "we see carnivores...particularly those that are known to scavenge."

The H5N1 virus doesn't care if you're a fox or a human.


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☠️Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza (H5N5, 'bird flu') found in 20 released pheasants in Worcestershire. The most serious outbreak reported this year but no disease control zones put in place 'cos these pheasants currently considered 'wild'! Details 👇 https://t.co/reAp1j4ANE -


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2024 at 11:44pm
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California: Now 11 (Presumed & Confirmed) Human H5 Infections


UPDATED:  No sooner had I posted this, the USDA announced another 15 infected herds in California (N=120)

Twelve days ago, before I was so rudely interrupted by Hurricane Milton, California's  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/10/california-cdph-investigating-3rd.html - CDPH was Investigating their 3rd Suspected Case Of H5 Avian Flu , and 56 dairies had reported H5 in cows. In less than two weeks, the number of infected dairies has nearly doubled (n=105), and the number of confirmed and presumed positive human cases has nearly quadrupled (n=11). 
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While the risk to the general public remains low, additional human cases of bird flu are expected to be identified and confirmed in California among individuals who have regular contact with infected dairy cattle. CDPH continues to work closely with local health jurisdictions to identify, track, test, confirm, and treat possible and confirmed human cases of bird flu.
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While it is likely - based on  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/06/eid-journal-avian-influenza-ah5n1-virus.html - anecdotal reporting of symptomatic farm workers who were never tested  - that the official number is an undercount, so far in 2024 at least 25 people from 5 states have been confirmed to be infected with H5Nx. 

It has now been more than 8 weeks since  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-statement-on-missouri-h5-case.html - Missouri's first (and only confirmed) H5 case was hospitalized,  and while there were  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/09/cdc-updates-missouri-h5-case-sept-27th.html - 7 symptomatic contacts,  we've yet to hear anything about their serology testing.  Nor do we know how this index case was infected. 

Since testing - of both cattle and symptomatic workers - remains largely voluntary, it is frankly anyone's guess how far this virus has spread across the nation.  Until late August, California was assumed free of the disease.

Today, California accounts for more than 1/3rd (of all known) infected U.S. dairies, and nearly half of all human H5 infections in the nation. 

This slow-rolling of information, and a general lack of urgency - particularly at the local level - is both perplexing and frustrating.  And if this were happening in another country, our own government would be decrying the lack of progress. 

It is, of course, possible that HPAI H5 is currently incapable of sparking a larger public health crisis.  We've seen it threaten before - in Egypt, and Indonesia, and Vietnam - only to fizzle and recede. 

But we've never seen HPAI H5 affects so many mammals (cattle, cats, dolphins, seals, bears, skunks, foxes, mice, mink, etc.) before.  The longer it persists in cattle, and the more it spreads to other species, the more chances it will have to adapt or mutate into a more formidable foe.

Even if the odds are greatly against the virus, the downsides of a long-shot coming in could be enormous. 

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Avian flu spreading in California raises pandemic threat for humans

​Officials are racing to vaccinate dairy workers against the seasonal flu to prevent the two viruses from combining.
Updated: 10/17/2024 01:01 PM EDT​
SACRAMENTO, California — Health officials across the U.S. are working to prevent a potentially dangerous combination virus as avian flu rips through one of the nation’s largest milk-producing regions during the height of flu season.​

Public health experts have long warned that avian flu poses a significant pandemic threat to humans, and the number of infections among dairy workers in California continues to grow. The timing of the outbreak will soon collide with the seasonal flu, complicating efforts to track bird flu and raising the risk that the two viruses could mix, potentially creating a virulent combo that could spread beyond dairy workers to the rest of the population.
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But between March 31 and Oct. 14, only 25 individuals in the state have been tested for avian flu, 

according to CDPH. Workers who are symptomatic are first screened for flu before additional bird-flu-specific testing is performed. California is home to over 17,500 dairy workers, most of whom are in the Central Valley.

The CDC set aside more than 100,000 doses of seasonal flu vaccine for the 12 states with outbreaks. Five thousand of those doses are meant for California’s dairy workers, but they won’t be there until the end of the month​

DJ, the good news; at least the US is testing and reporting H5N1 cases at a very low level...

Lots of bad news; real number of human H5N1 infections in the US may be 1,000+  by now...Most other countries seem to not be testing-and if they test do not report H5N1 cases...

So YES H5N1 will "recombinate" with other human flu-types resulting in high risk flu...CoViD decrease of immunity will further allow spread...

SE Asia did see H5N1 cases this year being reported-with a lot of mild/a-symptomatic spread in humans missed...

Mammal-to-mammal spread (a.o. in US cattle) is quite likely (in part via milking machines ??? "poultry-litter"???) 

It is now-my non-expert view- "just" a matter of time before we are in a flu-pandemic...
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Just personally confirmed that this video of dead cows near the roadway did indeed die from https://x.com/hashtag/avianinfluenza?src=hashtag_click - #avianinfluenza https://x.com/hashtag/birdflu?src=hashtag_click - #birdflu at a farm in Tulare, CA. They were left there for 2 days because the rendering truck was overwhelmed with customers.
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Date Posted: 19 Oct 2024 at 2:39am
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⚠️ BREAKING: France 🇫🇷 Raises Avian Flu Alert to "Moderate" Amid Rising Pandemic Fears France has raised its avian flu alert to “moderate” as of October 16, 2024, due to rising cases in birds Officials warn migratory birds could spread the virus, raising pandemic fears.
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Politico: Avian Flu Spreading In California Raises Pandemic Threat To Humans “Fortunately, the [H5N1] cases have been mild, but it’s a real gamble to assume that the rest of them will be,”

link; https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/17/avian-flu-california-pandemic-threat-00184027 - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/17/avian-flu-california-pandemic-threat-00184027 or https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/17/avian-flu-california-pandemic-threat-00184027 ;

SACRAMENTO, California — Health officials across the U.S. are working to prevent a potentially dangerous combination virus as avian flu rips through one of the nation’s largest milk-producing regions during the height of flu season.

Public health experts have long warned that avian flu poses a significant pandemic threat to humans, and the number of infections among dairy workers in California continues to grow. The timing of the outbreak will soon collide with the seasonal flu, complicating efforts to track bird flu and raising the risk that the two viruses could mix, potentially creating a virulent combo that could spread beyond dairy workers to the rest of the population.

Despite what California officials say is a proactive approach, public health experts outside the state say too little is being done to track and respond to avian flu, which has spread to 105 dairy farms since the virus was first found here in August. The stakes are high: Approximately half of documented human H5N1 avian flu cases in the past two decades were deadly, according to the World Health Organization.

“It will mutate to become increasingly optimal in humans as soon as it gains any foot in the door for human-to-human transmission,” said Michael Mina, chief science officer at digital health company eMed. “How far that goes and how fast it means the virus starts to transmit … is almost entirely unknown right now.”

Other states have had a handful of avian flu cases in humans this year, including one in Texas and 10 in Colorado. But as the largest dairy-producing state in the country, with over 1.7 million cows, California’s response could serve as a test case for how to deal with large numbers of infected cows or people.


DJ, Governments NOT testing, main-stream-media going for lies/half-truths...

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Study: People are catching avian flu from wild birds “As far as we know, this is the first study linking the movements of these migratory birds to possible H5 spillover into humans.”

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DJ-One reason why a lot of journalists fail to do their job is the complexety of the matter. CoViD doing immunity damage may play a (major) role in spread of H5N1 (via wild birds), Mpox in humans...

I do find claims that CoViD-19 infection may result in HIV-like immunity damage "shocking"...but if that is the case NOT reporting/writing on it is WRONG !!!

Sharing information=fighting pandemics...hiding info-by media-is "double wrong";
-It results in pandemics getting more and more out of control 

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 -public losing trust in government/media.....


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2024 at 6:03am
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So let's say we get through this flu season without reassortment happening on a level that would cause the bird flu pandemic. Does this mean we are kinda safe?

DJ...CoViD decreasing immunity could mean a lower viral load still could cause severe disease...Again-H5N1 human cases in the US must be in the hundreds...

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/13-human-cases-of-h5n1-bird-flu-now-confirmed-in-california-with-124-dairy-herds-infected-and-hundreds-of-cows-dying - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/13-human-cases-of-h5n1-bird-flu-now-confirmed-in-california-with-124-dairy-herds-infected-and-hundreds-of-cows-dying or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/13-human-cases-of-h5n1-bird-flu-now-confirmed-in-california-with-124-dairy-herds-infected-and-hundreds-of-cows-dying 


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Date Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 2:17am
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link; https://www.snexplores.org/article/bird-flu-2024-mammal-human-health - https://www.snexplores.org/article/bird-flu-2024-mammal-human-health or https://www.snexplores.org/article/bird-flu-2024-mammal-human-health 

DJ-There is (some) discussion on (to what level) there may be spread from H5N1 infected wild birds to humans...The bigger picture is H5N1 may be that widespread in mammals around the globe it will have its own dynamics...
-towards mammal-to-mammal spread
-mixing with other flu types
-co-spreading with other diseases....

DJ CoViD-19 is also "out of control" in both humans and other mammals...Not only is CoViD weakening immunity response against other infections-it may "link up" with a.o. flu....

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I didn't realise I'd been quoted in this article (regarding the risk of a coinfection with seasonal flu and H5N1 potentially leading to a reassortment event). Excellent article,
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The risk of H5N1 combining with seasonal flu to create a more dangerous strain of the virus will increase dramatically this winter, a major disease-tracking platform has predicted.

When two or more strains of a virus infect the same person, they can exchange genetic material and create new, more dangerous variants of a disease through a process called reassortment.

According to preliminary modelling by analytics firm Airfinity, the risk of H5N1 reassorting this winter will increase by five-fold compared with the summer months, due to the onset of seasonal flu.


DJ, "flurona" becoming ONE viral infection...a "merger" of a corona-virus and a flu-virus ????


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 12:00am
More US human H5N1 cases;

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Four people in USA presumed infected with highly pathogenic avian influenza virus H5N1 after working on a megafarm with 800,000 (!) chickens where virus entered. Infected people had mild symptoms. All chickens were killed, not stated how. https://x.com/hashtag/vogelgriep?src=hashtag_click - #vogelgriep

link; https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/10/presumed-human-infections-of-avian-influenza-under-investigation-in-washington.html - https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/10/presumed-human-infections-of-avian-influenza-under-investigation-in-washington.html or https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/10/presumed-human-infections-of-avian-influenza-under-investigation-in-washington.html 

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Details about these presumed human cases of highly pathogenic avian influenza H5N1 virus infection and the ongoing investigation of other potentially infected people provided here by Washington State Department of Health.

another link; https://doh.wa.gov/newsroom/first-presumed-human-infections-avian-influenza-under-investigation-washington-state - https://doh.wa.gov/newsroom/first-presumed-human-infections-avian-influenza-under-investigation-washington-state or https://doh.wa.gov/newsroom/first-presumed-human-infections-avian-influenza-under-investigation-washington-state 

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I don't like how many people in the US are getting infected with this virus. It's safe to say many more cases are not being detected.

DJ, Wastewater monitoring is not yet able to see if detected H5N1 viral residu is from cattle or humans (or poultry)....My non-expert estimate by now the US may have hundreds of human H5N1 cases...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Human_cases - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Human_cases or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1#Human_cases may provide some perspective....Out of a global reported human H5N1 cases since 2003 of 921 this year-2024-so far did see at least 39 cases...27 US cases (a few days ago...) Cambodia did see 10 cases-2 deaths..

Good news; A lot of human H5N1 cases so far may be "mild" (however long term damage may still be unclear)...
Bad news; At least the US is reporting/testing some cases...most countries seem to be not even testing...


Posted By: Dutch Josh 2
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 10:33pm
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When dairy cows in Texas began falling ill with H5N1, alarmed veterinarians expected a fierce response to contain an outbreak with pandemic-sparking potential. Then politics—and, critics say, a key agency’s mandate to protect dairy-industry revenues—intervened. For VF,
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With continued spread amongst cows, or to another “mixing-vessel” species like pigs, the virus “could mix and match, then you get a whole new genetic constellation,” says Jürgen Richt, regents and university distinguished professor at Kansas State University. Experts are hesitant to speculate about what could happen if the virus were to begin more widely infecting humans, for fear of spreading panic, but the toll could, in the worst case, dwarf that of COVID-19. If the virus “infects a person infected with a human flu strain, and something comes out that is reassorted and adapted to humans? I don’t even want to imagine,” Richt says. “Not good.”

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    DJ-A weakspot in any epidemic/pandemic model may be "background"...CoViD damaging immunity+ lots of CoViD infections may do "much more damage"...

    The Spanish Flu killed between 2 to 5% of the global population between 1917 and 1923. 
    With present global population 8,2 billion and much faster travel ;
    2% of present global population =164 million
    5% may result in 400-500 million deaths...

    The higher the number of people getting ill the more damage to the healthcare system so Case Fatality Ratio would go up...simply because a lack of care available...

    Already CoViD-cases (linked to XEC-variants) may overstretch healthcare in some places...ANY serious flu on top of that will put healthcare in crisis...

    If a more agressive flu-variant showed up "health care" has to switch to triage, trying to save as many lives...but accepting a lot of people may not survive...

    A few years ago "triage criteria" included "years-of-live-saved"...In practice this may mean older people may no longer get maximum care-to save younger lives in the same condition...For Intensive Care beds, ECMO etc. those criteria matter...



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