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DJ...I hate it to be correct; We are moving towards a multi disease pandemic...If I am even more correct the next step will be "Disease X"-in my view a "new" (for humans"disease able to spread and kill on a scale not seen since the 14th century "Black Death"...I LOVE to be wrong !!!

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Measles cluster confirmed in Western Australia WA Health has reported 5 measles cases tied to a local cluster, with airborne exposure in community settings.

DJ-Measles now is a global problem. High R0, no season effect...
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Foot and mouth disease serotype O outbreak confirmed in Hungary and Slovakia

DJ, NOT (yet) in humans...Blue Tongue Virus WAS a major problem in NW Europe...could have grown into a bigger problem for humans however it did NOT ! Most in sheep, some goats, two Dutch dogs...cases-for-now seem to be very low...(May have moved away from NL into France ?)

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400 cases, 41 hospitalizations, 1 dead child. All preventable. Texas didn’t get hit by a new virus. It got hit by a belief system. And it’s the kids paying for it.

DJ, Measles vaccines are very effective and low risk...Vitamin A can limit disease...however an overdose of vitamin A can even kill...Vitamins are NOT !!!! an alternative for vaccines !!!

The basic pandemic is stupidity ! Dominance on anti-social media of the stupid !
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CoViD (even asymptomatic/"mild") can change the way human DNA is split into RNA https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-thousands-of-novel-hybrid-genes-or-chimeric-rnas-found-in-the-blood-of-the-covid-19-infected or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-thousands-of-novel-hybrid-genes-or-chimeric-rnas-found-in-the-blood-of-the-covid-19-infected 

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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352304224001454 or https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352304224001454 

DJ (The TMN story is short and better to understand). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics) or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics) ;genetic chimerism or chimera (/kˈmɪərə/ ky-MEER or /kɪˈmɪərə/ kim-EER) is a single organism composed of cells with more than one distinct genotype.

DJ, In (very) short CoViD may result in new forms of RNA that can be used for diagnostics. It could also explain long term complications (and may bring lots of unwelcome surprises)...

DJ-My non-expert-non-scientific view: CoViD may stick around in many hosts-could continue to do damage that is easily missed-untill it starts causing symptoms...

Part of the damage may be in immune reactions. Confronted with infection damaged/chimera RNA could result that even vaccine immunity does not do the expected job...It may also explain a possible increase in cancers (part of the cancers may be virus-infection linked) ...

DJ-Since this field of RNA-research is quite new we may have missed possible earlier DNA-RNA transscript problems (in ME-CFS, HIV-AIDS ???)
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https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/03/avian-flu-what-goes-around-comes-around.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/03/avian-flu-what-goes-around-comes-around.html ;

A decade ago, some experts were still bitterly divided over the impact of  migratory birds on the spread of avian flu (see 2014's Bird Flu Spread: The Flyway Or The Highway?).  Many conservationists had long insisted  that `sick birds don't fly', and that it was illicit poultry trade that was driving the spread of the virus. 

A 2015 statement by UN CMS/FAO Co-Convened Scientific Task Force on Avian Influenza and Wild Birds maintained that `. . .  typically the spread of HPAI virus is via contaminated poultry, poultry products and inanimate objects although wild birds may also play a role.'

While the poultry industry undoubtedly contributed to the local spread of the virus, after the H5N8 virus crossed the Pacific in late 2014 and sparked a major North American Epizootic (see map below), the role of migratory birds became much harder to ignore.


DJ, Denying the role wild animals play in spreading disease is "anti-science"...
But since 2015 HPAI H5Nx viruses (both in Asia and Europe) have undergone numerous evolutionary changes, morphing from H5N8, to H5N6, and more recently to H5N1 and H5N5 subtypes.  A 2016 reassortment event  in Russia led to Europe's record setting H5 epizootic of 2016-2017, which also featured unusual mortality in wild birds.  
And unlike in North America in 2015, while avian flu reports decreased sharply over the summer of 2017 in Europe, the virus never completely disappeared.  A trend which has only increased in the years since (see Ain't No Cure For the Summer Bird Flu).
Over time H5 viruses have become better suited for carriage by migratory birds, have greatly increased their avian host range (see DEFRA: The Unprecedented `Order Shift' In Wild Bird H5N1 Positives In Europe & The UK), and have shown a greater affinity for infecting mammals.

Over the past decade these changes have enabled the virus to spread globally, crossing both the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans repeatedly (see Multiple Introductions of H5 HPAI Viruses into Canada Via both East Asia-Australasia/Pacific & Atlantic Flyways).
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While the focus is on the next couple of months - after which we will hopefully have a few months respite - the reality is the virus continues to expand both its geographic and host ranges, and with that comes increased genetic diversity.

In North America alone, more than 100 genotypes have been identified over the past 3 years, with new ones fully expected to emerge over time.  Over the past year, four new reassortments of note have emerged:

  • D1.3  a recently detected wild bird/poultry strain which has been infection poultry and at least 1 human
While we can't predict what kind of changes may occur in the HPAI H5 virus over the summer - or during the Southern Hemisphere's winter - history suggests that we can expect some surprises when the virus returns next fall.   

A perilous pattern that we can expect to be repeated twice yearly, ad nauseum, for the foreseeable future. 

DJ, H5 etc. is more and more moving into (wild) mammals so the season effect may decrease-we may see an all year risk for all types of flu...

Decrease of immunity (CoViD linked) will see more species show H5-like types of flu...

Ignoring the mega-mix of diseases-increasingly interacting with one another is "unwise & unwelcome"....A form of tunnelvision some experts may develop...

https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2025/03/articles/animals/other-animals/h5n1-influenza-in-sheep/ or https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2025/03/articles/animals/other-animals/h5n1-influenza-in-sheep/ just another story of how H5N1 did find another new-unexpected-host...
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DJ, There are some stories about a "new Russian flu"...evading both flu and CoViD tests...

https://tass.com/society/1925191 or https://tass.com/society/1925191 ;

MOSCOW, March 10. /TASS/. Russia is seeing growing flue and acute respiratory infections incidence mostly among the non-vaccinated population, Vladimir Chulanov, a specialist in infectious diseases of the Russian health ministry, said.

"Currently, the incidence of flu and other acute respiratory infections is demonstrating upwards trends, with the biggest growth being reported from Russia’s European part and the Urals region," he said.

According to Chulanov, the bulk of the patients are unvaccinated people.

DJ, Some western/US propaganda claiming "a new virus"...may come up with "lab-leak" non sense etc. 
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BREAKING: An unidentified virus is spreading in multiple Russian regions, causing severe respiratory symptoms, including high fevers and blood-stained coughs. Officials have not identified the pathogen. Some patients recover within days; others require emergency care. No public health measures or formal government statements have been issued so far.
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The U.S. spends more than any other country on health care and gets worse outcomes. It’s a market built to extract, not heal. A billing system with ICUs attached.

DJ https://x.com/maolesen/status/1906096972445983101 or https://x.com/maolesen/status/1906096972445983101 and https://x.com/maolesen/status/1906096972445983101/photo/1 or https://x.com/maolesen/status/1906096972445983101/photo/1 

For the US health is a way to make profits...US life expectency is 76 at a cost of over 12,000US$ per year...For China life expectency is 78 at a cost of ONE THOUSEND US$ per year...Japan l.e. is 85 years...costs per capita just over 5000 US$ per year...

Again-the basic pandemic is insanity...
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BREAKING: Bird Flu Reinfections Surge at US Poultry Farms, Experts Urge Vaccines and Stricter Measures.

DJ, the idea flu=immunity seems to be "over optimistic" (also cattle in US did see reinfection). 

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/03/npj-vaccines-modeling-impact-of-early.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/03/npj-vaccines-modeling-impact-of-early.html ;

NPJ Vaccines: Modeling the Impact of Early Vaccination in an Influenza Pandemic in the United States


Although there are no guarantees that avian H5N1 will spark the next pandemic, it is a pretty good bet that the next pandemic will be caused by a novel `flu-like' virus (with influenza and coronaviruses being at the top of that list).  

While once thought of as a `once-in-a-generation' event, in my lifetime I've already experienced 4 legitimate pandemics (1957, 1968, 2009, 2020), 2 pseudo-pandemics (19772003), and one `near-miss ' (1976).

Given recent trends (see PNAS Research: Intensity and Frequency of Extreme Novel Epidemics) - even at my age - it is entirely possible I'll see another.  While it is unknown what the next pandemic will look like, it is likely we'll go into it without a vaccine and with relatively few therapeutic options. 
Recent studies looking at avian H5 have raised concerns over the effectiveness of current antivirals, and there are a great many barriers to rapidly producing, and distributing, a novel flu vaccine
As Maggie Fox explained last year in SCI AM - A Bird Flu Vaccine Might Come Too Late to Save Us from H5N1, our options during the opening months of any pandemic will be limited. Unpopular as they might be, NPIs (non-pharmaceutical interventions like masks, social distancing, etc.) will once again become our first line of defense. 

DJ, Flu Vaccines give (limited=60% ? protection against severe flu-symptoms-includes against H1N1...may offer -limited- protection against H5N1...Also earlier flu infection could still result in some immunity-even against "bird flu". A risk may be catching a "bird flu H5/H7/H9 virus" without major symptoms but spreading it to others with less defenses). 

Vaccines can limit pandemics !!! CoViD, measles, flu all see vaccines as a defense ! And both measles and flu have vaccination programs going back decades !

Which brings us the question: is it better to have a less-well-matched vaccine earlier (at 3 months), or wait (6 months or more) for a well-matched vaccine?

It is not an easy question to answer, because there are so many unknown variables.  As the old saying goes, `If you've seen one pandemic . . . . you've seen one pandemic'.  The speed of transmission (R0), its place of origin, its virulence (CFR and Attack Rate), and even its impact on different age groups, all change the outcome. 

We've a study today that attempts to model the impact of early vs. late vaccination in a variety of pandemic scenarios, juggling virulence (moderate or severe), and vaccine effectiveness (high, moderate, or  low), in order to try to quantify the probable benefits. 

In order to keep all of this manageable the authors had to make a number of assumptions that may, or may not, hold true in the next pandemic; an origin in the Southern Hemisphere, a greater impact on older patients, and a single wave, etc.   

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Vaccination from 3 months with a high, moderate, or low effectiveness vaccine would prevent ~95%, 84%, or 38% deaths post-vaccination, respectively, compared with 21%, 18%, and 8%, respectively following vaccination at 6 months, irrespective of pandemic severity.
While the pandemic curve would not be flattened from vaccination from 6 months, a moderate/high effectiveness vaccine could flatten the curve if administered from 3 months.
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This study uses a lot of epidemiological assumptions, which may (or may not) be a good fit for the next pandemic.  Much will also depend upon how society reacts to the next pandemic.  
  • Will lockdowns be tolerated, or will people refuse masks and social distancing?   
  • Assuming a vaccine could be produced in quantity in 3 months, would large segments of the public actually embrace it?  How much extra resistance against an mRNA vaccine? 
  • How much tolerance would the public have for (real or imagined) vaccine side effects, particularly in a low VE jab?  
While I'm not particularly hopeful that an emergency vaccine of any VE can be produced and deployed within the first 3 months of a novel pandemic - in the event of a severe disease - this study strongly suggests that the earlier that can happen, the better. 

DJ, In my view we are allready in a multi-disease pandemic. CoViD, measles, flu...Mpox a growing risk...TB..

So ...the first tool is information and communication !!! Restore trust by keeping healthcare away from "politics/profits"...Maybe even "Big Pharma" is beginning to realize TRUST is the major ingredient of doing bussinesses...

In my view "reasonable profits" may need to be accepted when dealing with privately owned "big pharma"...Lots of countries put "big pharma" under government restrictions (a.o. by buying their products at a price the government is willing to pay...) 

Other countries see "healthcare & pharma" in government hands..."strategic defense"...
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DJ-We may be moving towards a far worse "disease X" with a high CFR and NO (human) immunity...The more time we can buy by limiting other pandemics the more time we have to avoid/prepare for a "new disease X"...

Like with climate collapse-the only option available may be "damage control"!!!

The more people "limit exposure", go for vaccines, masks, eye protection etc. the better !

DJ-A person decides over his/her own body...so "mandatory vaccinations" may only be acceptable for limited -job related- groups...Just like a woman -only herself- can decide over abortion/births...People have a basic right to decide their life is "over" or who you want to share your life with...

Governments have to know their limits...Some US states anti abortion laws are criminal...Same-sex relations are NOT government bussinesses !!! And YES-some people feel to "live in a wrong body" and deserve GOOD help !

In many countries criminal "politicians" fail to respect basic human rights...Good PUBLIC healthcare also is a BASIC !!!! human right ! (and not a privilage for a rich criminal...)
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Measles;
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#Measles ➡️ Growing measles outbreak in TX pushes US cases above 520 - TX alone has 400 confirmed cases - 41 hospitalized in TX By Randi Richardson https://nbcnews.com/health/health-news/texas-measles-outbreak-grows-us-cases-rcna198557
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BREAKING — Measles outbreak tied to massive Paris farm fair. Virus now spreading across multiple French regions. Public health authorities have confirmed several measles cases among people who attended the Paris Agricultural Show — a 600,000-person superspreader event. The virus has now been identified in Île-de-France, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, Normandy, and Occitanie. One known cluster began with a student from Côte-Saint-André high school, who reportedly caught the virus during the fair and brought it back home.
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DJ, NL measles cases getting close to 200...
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There’s a point in any system collapse where you stop asking: How do we fix this? And you start asking: What do we need to escape it?

DJ, Measles is NOT new ! We DO know it has a R0 of 12 to 18-so highly infectious...We DID see first cases/ a start of spread...still INACTION...

The US rfk-insanity of "letting H5N1 do its thing"...go for "vitamin A"...is just another low...

It is welcome flu-cases are going down in many places-but that should be expected as we are entering the end of flu-season. CoViD cases may increase...

Myanmar may now be another major health risk after the earthquake-killing thousends...
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In a.o. the US april 5 is a day of protest against extreme right wing political/media criminality, for public healthcare, public education...civil rights ! STOP THE PANDEMIC-STOP political criminals !

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DJ, Russian "mystery disease" may be TB..African "mystery disease" often turns out to be malaria (+poverty-a social disease)..."Unclear" may do less well in "popular press" then "mystery"...
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H5N1 is displaying a common pattern of stepwise invasion from animal to human #H5N1 evolution in progress

link;  [url]...nation.lk site off line ???

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NVSL uploaded 335 sets of #H5N1 seqs from mammals 3 cats 2 bears 1 skunk wild birds poultry dairy herds Bear D1.1 seqs PB2 E627K related to bobcat & Ontario feral cat seqs 1 cat matched RAW FARM raw milk raising concerns farm is reinfected 1 cat matched Savage raw chicken

DJ, In the US one can rent chicken for their eggs...of course it is also increasing the risk of further H5N1 spread...(also into pets). 

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Australia Influenza numbers for Q1 2025 are already doubling 2022 and 2023 levels at the same point. March 2025: 14,078 cases 2023 March total: 6,535 2022 March total: 3,137 Cumulative curve is rising earlier and faster than all previous years since 2018. If this trajectory holds, 2025 could become the worst flu year on record in Australia. Before winter even starts.

DJ, Since people may rather have flu then CoViD ("out of fashion") they may NOT test for CoViD...How many cases will be Flu-Rona co-infections ? 

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/current-flu-season-has-caused-26363-related-deaths-in-belgium or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/current-flu-season-has-caused-26363-related-deaths-in-belgium (links in French and Dutch to Belgian CDC). 

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BREAKING: U.S. Sees 2.35 Million COVID-19 Cases in a Week as COVID-19 Transmission Surges to 33.1% Currently 1 in 142 Americans Infected.

DJ, CoViD is NOT over, NOT mild and NOT creating any immunity against catching CoViD again...it does increase risks of long term damage/health issues...lots of excess deaths statistics still NOT at pre-pandemic 2019 level...(and good statistics correct for aging !)
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DJ, Measles cases increasing high speed in many places...CoViD still NOT under control, H5N1 showing up in more (wild) mammals...
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Active Tuberculosis case confirmed at Waukegan High School, Illinois

DJ, Very likely the Russian "mystery disease" may also be (multi resistant) TB...

Mpox news is under control...the disease is not...
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https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-child-dies-from-h5n1-bird-flu-infection-in-andhra-pradesh-india-sparking-fears-of-possible-surge-in-human-cases or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-child-dies-from-h5n1-bird-flu-infection-in-andhra-pradesh-india-sparking-fears-of-possible-surge-in-human-cases 

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https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/04/preprint-population-immunity-to-hpai.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/04/preprint-population-immunity-to-hpai.html ;
A little over 18 years ago, in A Predilection For The Young, I wrote about the disturbing (but curious) skewing of H5N1 cases (and deaths) among younger individuals (see WHO Chart above). 

While there are no records of humans ever having dealt with an H5 influenza pandemic (going back 130+ years), those who were born before before 1967 appeared far less susceptible to the virus - and those born before 1958 - even more so. 

 A lot of theories were proposed, but answers were elusive. Then, in 2013 an equally novel avian H7N9 virus emerged in China - sparking 5 years of seasonal infections - which skewed dramatically toward those over 40

DJ, The India 2 y/o girl dying from H5N1 had no immunity...A main reason why H5N1 is underreported in humans is lack of testing and lots of "mild" cases...

In 1977-78, the H1N1 seasonal flu virus - which had been absent for 20 years, suddenly appeared in the Far East, and caused a pseudo-pandemic, primarily affecting those born after 1957. 

And during the  2009 H1N1 pandemic, we saw a similar age shift, where people in their 40's were hardest hit.  Here is what the CDC had to say about the impact of the virus in 2012's First Global Estimates of 2009 H1N1 Pandemic Mortality Released by CDC-Led Collaboration.
2009 H1N1 Pandemic Hits the Young Especially Hard

This study estimated that 80% of 2009 H1N1 deaths were in people younger than 65 years of age which differs from typical seasonal influenza epidemics during which 80-90% of deaths are estimated to occur in people 65 years of age and older.
By early in the last decade many researchers were convinced that the first flu you are exposed to early in life `primes' your immune system to preferentially fight similar influenza infections.  

Over time, this theory was refined to say that the HA Group type (I or II) you are exposed to first could substantially affect your immune response to influenza A (see Science: Protection Against Novel Flu Subtypes Via Childhood HA Imprinting).

The idea is that if your first influenza exposure was to H1N1 or H2N2 (Group 1), you may carry some limited degree of immunity to H5 viruses (H5N1, H5N6, etc.), while if your first exposure was to H3N2 (Group 2), you may carry some degree of protection against H7 viruses instead

DJ, Age can offer a + by being exposed to more health risks so more immunity-however age - is immunity decreasing...

Although the oft-quoted 50% CFR (Case Fatality Rate) of H5N1 is probably greatly exaggerated (see discussions here and here), even a more reasonable 2%-5% CFR would represent a public health crisis unlike anything we've seen in the modern era.

Making any advantage - even a small one - very much worth having. 

DJ, Younger age groups may be most at risk...
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The probability of a recession in the US is approaching 50% -Deutsche Bank

DJ, Even further worsening perspectives for public health...

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/insurance-industry-warns-that-covid-19-is-still-killing-more-than-we-realize-and-excess-death-rates-might-remain-high-until-2033 or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/insurance-industry-warns-that-covid-19-is-still-killing-more-than-we-realize-and-excess-death-rates-might-remain-high-until-2033 

link to https://www.swissre.com/institute/research/topics-and-risk-dialogues/health-and-longevity/covid-19-pandemic-synonymous-excess-mortality.html or https://www.swissre.com/institute/research/topics-and-risk-dialogues/health-and-longevity/covid-19-pandemic-synonymous-excess-mortality.html ;

Four years on from the outbreak of the pandemic in 2020, many countries worldwide still report elevated deaths in their populations. This impact appears generally independent of healthcare systems and population health. This trend is evident even after accounting for shifting population sizes, and the range of reporting mechanisms and death classifications that make inter-country comparisons complex. There is also likely a degree of excess mortality under-reporting.
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Our general population forecasts suggest that excess mortality will gradually tail off by 2033, to 0–3% in the US and 0–2.5% in the UK. In comparison, by our calculation excess mortality in 2023 was in the range of 3–7% for the US, and 5–8% in the UK.

Under an optimistic scenario, we find that US and UK pandemic-linked excess mortality would disappear by 2028, reverting to pre-pandemic mortality expectations. Under a pessimistic scenario, we expect excess mortality to remain elevated until 2033, above pre-pandemic expectations.

DJ, It is "as good as impossible" to include immunity damage and increase of other diseases as a result of that into calculations/models. Mpox, measles and H5N1 all may have increased because of CoViD immunity damage. TB(c) may be next on a list...
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⚠️ BREAKING: Chinese Researchers 🇨🇳 Identify New PDCoV Strain from Pigs Infecting Humans and Disrupting Genetic Expression, Raising Zoonotic Pandemic Concerns.
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Although PDCoV has not yet been confirmed as a widespread human pathogen, its ability to infect human cells and alter genetic functions is a red flag for future zoonotic threats.

DJ, the risk of a "new" disease "X" -maybe a known disease in a small group of animals (or even plants !)  is growing...
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