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Dutch Josh 2 ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 2024 Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
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https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/thailand-doctors-unveil-hidden-excess-deaths-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-and-post-periods-totaling-about-112880 or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/thailand-doctors-unveil-hidden-excess-deaths-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-and-post-periods-totaling-about-112880
DJ-How to define a "pandemic" may be related to excess deaths...Hong Kong Flu (1968) and Asian Flu (1957) both may have seen up to 4 million deaths. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics_and_pandemics or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics_and_pandemics With CoViD there has been a discussion on "from" CoViD or "with" CoViD ...excess deaths-by now- may not give a clear view. Lots of people may die AFTER a CoViD infection but because of CoViD damage in all parts of the body...Even flu-deaths very likely will be higher because of CoViD... < aria-label="Grok s" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> < aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="menu" aria-label="More" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" -testid="caret" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> Me in September: "Covid infection damages the body and immune system, so following the terrible summer covid wave, we're going to have a terrible winter for other infections"
Them in September: <crickets>
Them in the winter: "Why is flu hitting people so badly?" DJ, The basic problem is denialism..."saving economy" ... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-56428-2 or https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-56428-2 ; Our results of impaired mitochondrial function and skeletal muscle myopathy in Long COVID patients are in line with other recent publications4,5,10,11,12. The causal role of deconditioning in explaining skeletal muscle adaptations in Long COVID is impossible to ascertain from our study design, as we acknowledged in the paper. We do not know the underlying factors contributing to these changes, and as good scientific practice, we refrained from drawing causal relationships in our publication. We were therefore surprised to read that Saris et al. drew such conclusions based on work which was not set up to be causal in nature. Recently, we and others described many possible factors contributing to Long COVID symptomology, including viral persistence, immune cell and autonomous nervous system dysregulation, and auto-immunity5,12,13,14. - Dutch research warns that exercise may worsen post-exertional malaise (PEM) in LongCovid.
PEM is not just a way to reduce your fitness, and intense activity is not a cure. DJ, If there is damage caused by viral disease and/or the virus still is in the body trying to "maximize condition" may do harm...
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https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/02/usda-adds-new-species-black-rats-to.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/02/usda-adds-new-species-black-rats-to.html ;
Presumably only a small percentage of HPAI H5 infected mammalian wildlife are ever found and tested, but this week the USDA's list has reached a milestone of sorts, surpassing 500 entries. Four of the ten entries added this week are feline (3 house cats, 1 bobcat), while a new species - the Black Rat (n=4) - makes its first appearance. House cats were only first added to the list in May of 2024, and since then 89 have been added. Other felines (bobcats, mountain lions, tigers, etc.) add more than 5 dozen more to the list. Rodents, were first added in June of last year, and now (deer mouse, house mouse, black rat) make up > 20% of the the list (n=108).
The USDA's list is far from exhaustive, since many states have reported zero - or only a few - infections. Reporting is often limited by animals dying in remote and difficult to access places, or by animals that survive the infection.
Not so very long ago, HPAI H5 was pretty much just an avian virus, with only occasional spillovers to humans and a few cats unlucky enough to be fed a diet of raw chicken. But starting in 2021 we began to see reports of numerous spillovers into a much wider range of mammals As the HPAI H5 virus continues to find new mammalian hosts it is likely to become more deeply entrenched in our shared ecology, increasing the risks that it will find new evolutionary pathways that were unavailable to it when it was primarily a disease of birds. Meaning that even if we somehow manage to control this virus in the henhouse and the dairy, it could still deliver a nasty surprise down the road. DJ, Very likely CoViD is also still spreading in HUNDREDS of species...so both H5N1 and CoViD "can do without human hosts"....Since all kinds of flu is also in lots of mammals all kinds of mixes are possible/likely...The H5N1-problems only just begun... |
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< aria-label="Grok s" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> < aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="menu" aria-label="More" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" -testid="caret" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> JUST IN: New study finds that serious neurologic complications tied to influenza are more common than previously thought.
Particularly in young children. - Analyzing over 79,000 influenza cases among children, researchers reported an incidence rate of 38 serious neurologic events per 100,000 person-weeks of flu. - Alarmingly, children under 2 years old faced a significantly higher risk, and the study found no difference in complication rates between children who received antiviral treatments and those who did not. ----- < aria-label="Grok s" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> < aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="menu" aria-label="More" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" -testid="caret" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> JUST IN: Covid vaccine faces ban for all Americans in radical U-turn by Trump team - < aria-label="Grok s" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> < aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="menu" aria-label="More" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" -testid="caret" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> Ghana records a case of Human metapneumovirus (HMPV) - https://www.belganewsagency.eu/bird-flu-hits-belgian-poultry-farm-as-outbreak-spreads or https://www.belganewsagency.eu/bird-flu-hits-belgian-poultry-farm-as-outbreak-spreads ; Belgium has recorded its first outbreak of highly pathogenic avian influenza (H5N1) this year at a poultry farm in Sint-Gillis-Waas, East Flanders. The Federal Agency for the Safety of the Food Chain (FAVV) confirmed the news on Tuesday. This follows five earlier cases detected among hobby poultry keepers. - "The number of infections in wild birds has increased in recent weeks," said FAVV spokeswoman Hélène Bonte. "This indicates the presence of the virus in Belgium and poses a serious risk to poultry kept outdoors. We strongly advise owners to protect their birds from wild species, for example by covering enclosures with netting". Infected wild animals Infections in wildlife were already recorded in Belgium this year, including a dead goose and a sick swan in the province of Limburg, as well as a buzzard, a grey heron and two seagulls on the coast. - In recent years, avian influenza has spread to six continents, affecting at least 485 species of birds and around 50 species of mammals, including polar bears, seals, dolphins and even captive tigers. DJ, My view; H5N1 still quite limited in Europe-however mammals in the wild may be a big ???? -not tested enough... We hardly see human H5N1 cases in Europe-so far. In part we simply may be lucky... < aria-label="Grok s" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> < aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="menu" aria-label="More" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" -testid="caret" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> JUST IN: Minnesota declares ‘state of emergency’ after outbreak of three diseases.
Minnesota declared a state of emergency after three viral infections were detected at commercial farms, indicating a widespread bird flu outbreak which will result in an even larger egg shortage. https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/state-declares-state-emergency-deadly-34704439?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar or https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/state-declares-state-emergency-deadly-34704439?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar ; Avian Metapneumovirus (aMPV) is a respiratory disease that spreads among poultry and has been triggering outbreaks in Minnesota since 2024. This is partnered with the highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza (HPAI) and the H5N1 bird flu virus. Both are viral infections circulating among wild and domestic birds. DJ, making control even harder... < aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="menu" aria-label="More" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" -testid="caret" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> https://www.nj.com/politics/2025/02/flu-outbreak-is-causing-a-deadly-childrens-brain-illness-what-are-the-symptoms.html or https://www.nj.com/politics/2025/02/flu-outbreak-is-causing-a-deadly-childrens-brain-illness-what-are-the-symptoms.html ; As vaccine-denier, conspiracy theorist and science-skeptic Robert F. Kennedy Jr. takes control of the Trump Administration’s Department of Health and Human Services, many doctors are sounding the alarm about several U.S. public health crises — a flu season that’s the most intense in more than a decade; measles outbreaks; and a simmering bird flu that, if it mutates and can be spread human-to-human, could make “COVID look like a walk in the park.” And there’s another illness — linked to the flu but dangerously unreported — that is leading to tragic outcomes in children. Dr. Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota, in an appearance on Deadline: White House with MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Tuesday, warned that the flu has sparked “a serious condition called acute necrotizing encephalitis,” and that the Center for Disease Control, under orders from President Donald Trump, has not released critical information about it. “Right now in this country, there is a major challenge occurring with children developing influenza and then developing a condition called acute necrotizing encephalitis,” Osterholm said. “Have you seen a word come out of the CDC about this? They’ve been prohibited from even putting this kind of information out. This is critical information for parents to know. “This is a serious brain complication of influenza infection for which there are many cases out there right now occurring, parents should know about this. So if they have children who have these signs and symptoms, get them into the hospital, or at least the emergency room, as soon as possible. That’s the kind of thing that is very, very hard for us ... where we know we can do things to make it better, and we’re not given that opportunity.” Osterholm listed the symptoms. “Your children have influenza-like symptoms to begin with,” he said. “That’s how it starts — the fever, the muscle aches, the chills. But then there’s a certain lethargy. Meaning [there is a] certain tiredness, a lack of consciousness, where it’s very hard to arouse the children. Those are the symptoms, and when they appear, you need to seek medical care immediately." Pediatric deaths, possibly linked to vaccine denying, “are climbing dramatically in this country with this flu season,” Osterholm said. “Parents need to understand those and [the Trump CDC is] not [publicizing] that right now. We’re not sharing that with them. And I think that’s a huge, huge mistake. “We know anecdotally that there are situations around the country where we have 12 children hospitalized in Boston, 10 children hospitalized at Stanford and many other locations around the country, and the media is not covering it, and nor is CDC. And this is something we can do something about, if parents understand this is occurring now and get their children in early. This surely can be a major step in helping to reduce the risk of serious illness and deaths.” New York Times Health Policy reporter Sheryl Gay Stolberg, also appearing in the segment, said she is concerned about “a bird flu outbreak that could be very, very serious.” DJ, Diseases often see co-infections...making risks grow
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