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DJ, Climate collapse has close but complex links with pandemics. Animals (and plants)  have to move to other areas to survive or face increasing problems in finding food.
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Antarctica;
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The pressure of the glacier itself will simply become too great during the spring tide next Monday. More icebergs, which lie south of the Thwaites Eastern Ice Shelf, are also quietly moving. Until yesterday, these icebergs were still very solid against the seabed.

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1760.950.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1760.950.html#lastPost

DJ, Very likely SEVERAL glaciers in West Antarctica breaking up...

https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2025/01/heat-flux-forecast-to-enter-arctic-early-february-2025.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2025/01/heat-flux-forecast-to-enter-arctic-early-february-2025.html ;

A heat flux is forecast to enter the Arctic early February 2025 that could raise temperatures to levels more than 30°C higher than 1979-2000, as illustrated by the above forecast for February 2, 2025 12Z, run January 25, 2025 06Z by Climate Reanalyzer
The situation has been described in earlier posts, most recently in this post, which adds that as temperatures rise, a lot of heat is accumulating in the North Atlantic and at its surface. Much of that heat can be pushed abruptly into the Arctic by strong longitudinal wind, accompanied by sudden acceleration of the Gulf Stream and its extension northward, as also illustrated by the image on the right. 

A sudden influx of heat can cause dramatic and rapid sea ice decline, with huge amounts of methane erupting abruptly from the seafloor, all contributing strongly to the further temperature rise, which in turn comes with further feedbacks, such as more water vapor ending up in the atmosphere, as illustrated by the image below. 

DJ, The jet-stream going "wild" bringing very cold weather in parts of North America-much to much warmth to the Arctic...

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DJ, Lots of climate experts are alarming people for years...

https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/extinction.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/extinction.html ;
Will humans be extinct by 2026?
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https://guymcpherson.com/ or https://guymcpherson.com/ 

DJ, Tend to go towards "we are living in extra time"....

https://paulbeckwith.net/2023/03/10/can-ecological-economics-let-us-survive-and-reset-adjusting-to-abrupt-climate-system-change/  or https://paulbeckwith.net/2023/03/10/can-ecological-economics-let-us-survive-and-reset-adjusting-to-abrupt-climate-system-change/ 

DJ, Paul Beckwith https://www.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/pld7rv/is_the_concept_of_a_blue_ocean_event_a_real/?rdt=48162 or https://www.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/pld7rv/is_the_concept_of_a_blue_ocean_event_a_real/?rdt=48162 ;

The term “blue ocean event” refers to the waters of the Arctic being ice free. The IPCC predicts, with high confidence, that the Arctic sea will experience ice free summers at the end of the century, or perhaps sooner. Exactly when this will occur is unclear, and it is generally thought that, unlike on-land ice sheets, sea ice does not exhibit tipping point behavior past which melt is irreversible. This interactive piece by Carbon Brief lays this topic out very cleanly and thoroughly.

Regarding the ramifications of an ice-free Arctic, it is important to note that the melting of sea ice has a negligible effect on sea level rise, due to the fact that the volume of water it displaces is about equal to the volume it adds to the ocean as it melts. Sea level rise primarily comes from melting of ice sheets on land, like the ones in Greenland and Antarctica.

DJ, Blue Ocean Event (BOE) risks may be more in the Arctic unable to cool the planet (then in sea water rise). Paul Beckwith did think of BOE...

https://www.facebook.com/JoseBarbaNueva/ or https://www.facebook.com/JoseBarbaNueva/ has lots of further links...

DJ, The IPCC is a political club serving the fossil fuel industry claiming there is room for extra CO2...Switching baselines for pre-industrial-a "need for 10 year average" still fails to keep their lies of "staying under 1,5C"...

DJ-My view;
-Global temperature very likely is over 2C+ since the 1700-1750...may be even getting close to +3C "soon"

-Methane eruptions not only increase green house gas in the atmosphere-melt of permafrost may go "that explosive" it could become both a seismic event and release such amount of methane temperatures go up even much faster...

-There is a point in trying to limit CO2 etc. We simply do not have all of the story...Maybe land-ice sliding into the oceans can save us ? 

In general I am very (over ?) pessimistic on climate collapse...


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https://nltimes.nl/2025/01/30/meteorological-institute-knmi-worried-new-reality-erratic-climate or https://nltimes.nl/2025/01/30/meteorological-institute-knmi-worried-new-reality-erratic-climate ;

Erratic. That is the word the KNMI used to summarise the weather in 2024. It is also the direction in which the climate is increasingly moving. The Netherlands is already experiencing more extreme precipitation than it did a few decades ago. “A more erratic climate is our new reality,” wrote director Maarten van Aalst in the annual report The State of our Climate.

The increasing weather extremes are a cause for concern for the institute’s scientists. “We must be prepared for extremes we have never seen before,” warned Van Aalst. He added that there is still a lot of work to be done to better prepare the Netherlands for the consequences of climate change, such as the increasingly rapid rise in sea levels.

The institute previously announced that 2024 was, on average, just as warm for the Netherlands as the record year 2023. The heat record was equaled without a heat wave and with only four tropical days when maximums topped 30 degrees at the national measuring station in De Bilt, which is relatively few. The explanation is that the minimum temperatures were very high. In De Bilt, there was not a single ice day when temperatures remained below zero all day.

There were no ice days in 2023 either. The fact that this happened two years in a row has never happened before since temperature measurements began in 1901. The number of frost days, when temperatures remained below zero for part of the day, was 23 fewer than even last year.

There were plenty of mild days. Wet days too. The KNMI counted 13 days with extreme precipitation with more than 50 millimeters of rain falling locally. That happens more often in the changing climate because warm air can absorb more water vapor than cold air. Between August 2023 and July 2024, the Netherlands experienced the wettest period ever measured.

The number of days with heavy precipitation almost doubled in recent decades, from an average of five to nine per year. Last year, was therefore also an outlier in this respect, although it was not a record. 2021 counted 16 days with extremely heavy rainfall.

It is clear to the KNMI that the climate is changing so strongly due to greenhouse gas emissions. “Twenty years ago, the question was: are we sure that it is due to emissions?” said director Van Aalst. Now, the big question is mainly when the tipping points in the climate will be reached, resulting in even more severe climate change. According to climate scientists, this chance increases considerably above a temperature increase of 1.5 degrees


DJ; https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/global_weirding or https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/global_weirding ; Thomas L. Friedman (2007 December 2) “The People We Have Been Waiting For”, in New York Times[1]:
I prefer the term “global weirding,” coined by Hunter Lovins, co-founder of the Rocky Mountain Institute, because the rise in average global temperature is going to lead to all sorts of crazy things — from hotter heat spells and droughts in some places, to colder cold spells and more violent storms, more intense flooding, forest fires and species loss in other places.

So the NL story is part of "global weirding"-a process recognized already in 2007...And very likely to get more crazy much faster...
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Predicted daily peaks for February in the NH significantly increase the chance that the February monthly anomaly for the NH could exceed 3°C! The global monthly anomaly could exceed 2.5°C! January is already breaking all heat records for the NH: up to 0.2°C warmer than last year!

DJ, If you go for a 1700-1750 baseline and look at latest year-not decade...The "new lie" is 1900 is "pre-industrial" and one needs to laak at the last 10 years...So "we are still under 2C+"....

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4280.250.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4280.250.html#lastPost ;
dramatic pack disappearance looks is on the cards. waves forecast to average 6m north of Svalbard for @ a week , fierce winds blowing across the weakest ice with Atlantic heat being transported to the pole and beyond . I wouldn't be surprised if extent/area losses were over 500k before recovery begins . This is probably not another 2017 .

DJ, More storms transporting both warm air and warm water to polar regions-increasing melt...We may be getting close to further major tresholds getting crossed...

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Parts of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida accumulated 10.0 or more inches, recording more snow than many places far to the north, including Chicago, IL! Find out what weather patterns were in place to cause such a rare and historical event:

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/event-tracker/historic-january-2025-snowstorm-southern-us or https://www.climate.gov/news-features/event-tracker/historic-january-2025-snowstorm-southern-us 

DJ-The more crazy the weather/climate the more crazy pandemics...
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