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   DJ, Climate collapse has close but complex links with pandemics. Animals (and plants)  have to move to other areas to survive or face increasing problems in finding food.-
Antarctica;
Kris Van Steenbergen
@KrVaSt
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Jan 24
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The pressure of the glacier itself will simply become too great during the spring tide next Monday. More icebergs, which lie south of the Thwaites Eastern Ice Shelf, are also quietly moving. Until yesterday, these icebergs were still very solid against the seabed.

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1760.950.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1760.950.html#lastPost 

DJ, Very likely SEVERAL glaciers in West Antarctica breaking up...

https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2025/01/heat-flux-forecast-to-enter-arctic-early-february-2025.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2025/01/heat-flux-forecast-to-enter-arctic-early-february-2025.html ;

A heat flux is forecast to enter the Arctic early February 2025 that could raise temperatures to levels more than 30°C higher than 1979-2000, as illustrated by the above forecast for February 2, 2025 12Z, run January 25, 2025 06Z by Climate Reanalyzer. 
The situation has been described in earlier posts, most recently in this post, which adds that as temperatures rise, a lot of heat is accumulating in the North Atlantic and at its surface. Much of that heat can be pushed abruptly into the Arctic by strong longitudinal wind, accompanied by sudden acceleration of the Gulf Stream and its extension northward, as also illustrated by the image on the right. 

A sudden influx of heat can cause dramatic and rapid sea ice decline, with huge amounts of methane erupting abruptly from the seafloor, all contributing strongly to the further temperature rise, which in turn comes with further feedbacks, such as more water vapor ending up in the atmosphere, as illustrated by the image below. 

DJ, The jet-stream going "wild" bringing very cold weather in parts of North America-much to much warmth to the Arctic...

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	DJ, Climate collapse has close but complex links with pandemics. Animals (and plants) have to move to other areas to survive or face increasing problems in finding food. - Antarctica; Kris Van Steenbergen @KrVaSt · Jan 24 < aria-label="Grok s" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> < aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="menu" aria-label="More" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" -testid="caret" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> The pressure of the glacier itself will simply become too great during the spring tide next Monday. More icebergs, which lie south of the Thwaites Eastern Ice Shelf, are also quietly moving. Until yesterday, these icebergs were still very solid against the seabed. https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1760.950.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1760.950.html#lastPost DJ, Very likely SEVERAL glaciers in West Antarctica breaking up... https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2025/01/heat-flux-forecast-to-enter-arctic-early-february-2025.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2025/01/heat-flux-forecast-to-enter-arctic-early-february-2025.html ; A heat flux is forecast to enter the Arctic early February 2025 that could raise temperatures to levels more than 30°C higher than 1979-2000, as illustrated by the above forecast for February 2, 2025 12Z, run January 25, 2025 06Z by Climate Reanalyzer. The situation has been described in earlier posts, most recently in this post, which adds that as temperatures rise, a lot of heat is accumulating in the North Atlantic and at its surface. Much of that heat can be pushed abruptly into the Arctic by strong longitudinal wind, accompanied by sudden acceleration of the Gulf Stream and its extension northward, as also illustrated by the image on the right. A sudden influx of heat can cause dramatic and rapid sea ice decline, with huge amounts of methane erupting abruptly from the seafloor, all contributing strongly to the further temperature rise, which in turn comes with further feedbacks, such as more water vapor ending up in the atmosphere, as illustrated by the image below. DJ, The jet-stream going "wild" bringing very cold weather in parts of North America-much to much warmth to the Arctic...

Dutch Josh 2 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 21 Aug 2024 Status: Offline Points: 1200	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh 2 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Yesterday at 2:57am
	DJ, Lots of climate experts are alarming people for years... https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/extinction.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/extinction.html ; Will humans be extinct by 2026? - https://guymcpherson.com/ or https://guymcpherson.com/ DJ, Tend to go towards "we are living in extra time".... https://paulbeckwith.net/2023/03/10/can-ecological-economics-let-us-survive-and-reset-adjusting-to-abrupt-climate-system-change/ or https://paulbeckwith.net/2023/03/10/can-ecological-economics-let-us-survive-and-reset-adjusting-to-abrupt-climate-system-change/ DJ, Paul Beckwith https://www.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/pld7rv/is_the_concept_of_a_blue_ocean_event_a_real/?rdt=48162 or https://www.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/pld7rv/is_the_concept_of_a_blue_ocean_event_a_real/?rdt=48162 ; The term “blue ocean event” refers to the waters of the Arctic being ice free. The IPCC predicts, with high confidence, that the Arctic sea will experience ice free summers at the end of the century, or perhaps sooner. Exactly when this will occur is unclear, and it is generally thought that, unlike on-land ice sheets, sea ice does not exhibit tipping point behavior past which melt is irreversible. This interactive piece by Carbon Brief lays this topic out very cleanly and thoroughly. Regarding the ramifications of an ice-free Arctic, it is important to note that the melting of sea ice has a negligible effect on sea level rise, due to the fact that the volume of water it displaces is about equal to the volume it adds to the ocean as it melts. Sea level rise primarily comes from melting of ice sheets on land, like the ones in Greenland and Antarctica. DJ, Blue Ocean Event (BOE) risks may be more in the Arctic unable to cool the planet (then in sea water rise). Paul Beckwith did think of BOE... https://www.facebook.com/JoseBarbaNueva/ or https://www.facebook.com/JoseBarbaNueva/ has lots of further links... DJ, The IPCC is a political club serving the fossil fuel industry claiming there is room for extra CO2...Switching baselines for pre-industrial-a "need for 10 year average" still fails to keep their lies of "staying under 1,5C"... DJ-My view; -Global temperature very likely is over 2C+ since the 1700-1750...may be even getting close to +3C "soon" -Methane eruptions not only increase green house gas in the atmosphere-melt of permafrost may go "that explosive" it could become both a seismic event and release such amount of methane temperatures go up even much faster... -There is a point in trying to limit CO2 etc. We simply do not have all of the story...Maybe land-ice sliding into the oceans can save us ? In general I am very (over ?) pessimistic on climate collapse...