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https://x.com/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1876406820857885097/photo/1 or https://x.com/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1876406820857885097/photo/1 

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US: 1 in 49 people actively infectious with Covid
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1) PMC COVID-19 Dashboard, Jan 6, 2025 (U.S.) 📈1 in 49 people actively infectious 🔥Nearly 1 million daily infections 🎲About a 50-50 chance someone has COVID in a large class if typical risk and no testing/isolating 🏥300,000+ new Long Covid conditions per week The infections are likely minor underestimates. AZ and OR did not report this week. They were surging, so the lack of data brings down the average. As well, the model gives 80% weight to CDC wastewater data and 20% weight to Biobot, but Biobot took the week off, so this is dependent on observed changes in the CDC data. It would be wise to add multiple imputation into the model to account for all the non-random missingness during surges, but I won't likely get to that anytime soon. The peak is looking more and more like 1.4 million daily infections, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's earlier than shown and more like 1.3 million, based on the pattern of retroactive data corrections last winter. If the real-time data really stink, it could come in closer to 1.0-1.1 million. To top 1.6 million, we would probably need some serious immune escape that at present I just don't see happening. However, in past winters, transmission was declining nationally in early/mid January, and back-to-school is a wild card.
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Northern Ireland: Elderly patients' five-day wait in 'intolerable' A&E "Two elderly patients have been in the emergency department of the Royal Victoria Hospital in Belfast for more than five days." BBC News
DJ, CoViD and "normal flu" are increasing another health crisis...With lots of HCW-ers looking for a more safe job...Long CoViD=poverty...
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I still remember the first time I saw #SARSCoV2 in the brain in the microscope, back in 2021. I was supposed to be looking at brains with Alzheimer, the neuroinflammation is similar. I knew #NeuroCovid was going to be pretty bad. We are just starting to see how much. #LongCovid

DJ, if (only) 1-in-10 CoViD infections results in Long CoViD; and a realistic number of infections in humans by now may be over 4 billion...(so over 50% of ALL humans !!!) then 400 million people would be dealing with Long CoViD. 

Not all Long CoViD cases mean unable to work-some indications 20%-33% of cases...

However if you allow MILLIONS of new CoViD cases per day you allow 100,000's of Long CoViD cases per day...And we may not even see the longer term damage...

CoViD very likely kills via cancers, heart/brain damage, diabetes etc. 

Again (Long) CoViD and Flu is a bad-unwelcome-combination. 

Without CoViD damaging immunity Mpox would not have gone global...Measles a new growing risk-maybe able to spread in a group that did have measles earlier but immunity against it damaged ? 

Over-focus on H5N1 is unwise and unwelcome ! Certainly when that brings ignoring CoViD !!!
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https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-news-iran-could-possibly-unleash-dangerous-biological-weapons-on-israel-united-states-and-europe-soon  or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-news-iran-could-possibly-unleash-dangerous-biological-weapons-on-israel-united-states-and-europe-soon 

and https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/01/who-don-trends-of-acute-respiratory.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/01/who-don-trends-of-acute-respiratory.html 

DJ-Is this US propaganda against Iran, China ? Is it a way to blame others for a failing pandemic strategy.

My view is we can expect a lot of diseases getting more room to spread because of CoViD-damage to immunity. A lot of countries did very poor in dealing with present health issues. 

The US has been blaming China for CoViD/lab-leaks...Even if those claims would be correct the priority has to be solving the crisis ! 
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UK: 'It is beyond broken now' - inside our terrifying NHS crisis "Patients and staff have told us they believe the NHS is now beyond broken and that the situation in hospitals is unsafe" Liverpool Echo
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Posted anonymously by an A&E doctor. Im writing this because I’m fu*king livid. I’m A&E reg with 9+ years experience in AEDThis morning was the first time EVER that I cried in my car after a shift.1/n
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UK: Multiple hospitals declare critical incidents over flu crisis UK Health secretary Wes Streeting said he was “genuinely distressed and ashamed” by the situation faced by patients and staff The Independent
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⚠️🇬🇧UK experts urge China to reveal crucial details of HPMV outbreak. Numbers have doubled in the UK in last month.
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8 major hospitals have declared critical incidents in the last 24hrs alone. Some of the 100s patients are stranded on trolleys, in corridors & in the back of ambulances will likely die there. This isn’t normal, inevitable or attributable to viruses alone. It’s a catastrophe.
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US: 1 in 49 people actively infectious with Covid
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DJ-The picture is bad...UK, lots of other countries high number of Flu AND of CoViD-very likely a lot of people may have both or catch extra diseases while in healthcare...

H5N1 is widespread in all kinds of animals-may jump to humans from cats, poultry whatever...
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‘The Great Pandemic Is Coming’: Ex-CDC Chief Warns of Looming Bird Flu Threat Dr. Robert Redfield warns that a far more catastrophic pandemic than COVID is approaching, calling the COVID outbreak the "lesser pandemic."

link; https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/01/07/former-cdc-chief-warns-bird-flu-could-be-more-catastrophic-than-covid or https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/01/07/former-cdc-chief-warns-bird-flu-could-be-more-catastrophic-than-covid 

DJ, The CDC-boss under trump seems unable to even understand the link with climate (collapse)...went for "blame China"...


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Norovirus is back. But this time it’s a heavyweight. GII.17[P17] is now the leading strain, driving a wave of infections across the U.S. Almost 70% of outbreaks are tied to it. Winter just got a whole lot worse.
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https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/01/icelandic-food-and-veterinary-authority.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/01/icelandic-food-and-veterinary-authority.html ; Today we have a (translated) announcement from the Icelandic Food and Veterinary Authority (MAST) on the fatal infection of a kitten with H5N5. At least two other cats from this household died, but were not tested. 
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While our biggest concern remains HPAI H5N1, over the years we've seen closely related H5N2, H5N3, H5N4, H5N5, H5N6, and H5N8 viruses - the product of H5N1 reassorting with other LPAI viruses - infecting both birds and mammals around the globe.
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It is not impossible that we could that threat shift - from H5N1 to H5N5, or H5N6, or to some other n-type, in the months or years ahead.  The H5Nx virus has an large - and growing - array of diverse hosts to inhabit, and no lack of genetic diversity on which to draw. 

All reasons why we should fully expect to see additional surprises in the future.

and  https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/01/transboundary-emerging-dis-h5n6-virus.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/01/transboundary-emerging-dis-h5n6-virus.html ;

While the world remains focused on two relatively new H5N1 genotypes (B3.13 & D1.1) circulating in North America, there are literally hundreds of other genotypes of H5Nx evolving and adapting - mostly out of our view - around the globe.

At the same time, there are hundreds of other influenza subtypes - many also with zoonotic potential - evolving and reassorting at a furious rate.  The CDC's IRAT list only lists 25, but it is far from complete. 

While any of them could suddenly assume the poll position in the race to the next pandemic, the H5N6 virus - circulating in China since early 2014 - is one that we watch with considerable interest. 

Of 92 human infections reported so far by China, about half have died

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All of which brings us to a new report, published this week in Transboundary & Emerging Diseases, which describes two new genotypes of H5N6 recently isolated in China, with one carrying the internal genes from LPAI H9N2 demonstrating worrisome signs of mammalian adaptation. 

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Just three weeks ago, in China CDC Weekly: Infection Tracing and Virus Genomic Analysis of Two Cases of Human Infection with Avian Influenza A(H5N6) — Fujian Province, China, we looked at a report that stated:

(H5N6) " . . .  has acquired mutations that may enhance human receptor binding affinity, viral replication capacity, pathogenicity, and neuraminidase inhibitor resistance."

None of this guarantees that H5N6 will become the next big pandemic threat.  But it should remind us that even if we somehow manage to subdue H5N1, any victory will be short-lived. 

Because there are plenty of other novel viruses with zoonotic potential in the queue. 


DJ, A "normal" flu = CoViD is bad news...and ignored...
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