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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H3N8#History  or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H3N8#History ;

In 1963, the H3N8 (A/equine/2/Miami/63) subtype created an epidemic of equine influenza in Miami and subsequently spread throughout North and South America and Europe, creating massive outbreaks during 1964 and 1965. Since 1963, the H3N8 virus has drifted along a single lineage at a rate of 0.8 amino acid substitutions per year. Between 1978 and 1981, there were widespread epidemics of the A/equine/2 strain throughout the US and Europe despite the development of vaccines. Since the late 1980s, evolution of the H3N8 virus has diverged into two families: an "American-like" lineage and a "European-like" lineage.[6] A 1997 study found H3N8 was responsible for over one quarter of the influenza infections in wild ducks.[7]

H3N8 has been suggested as a possible cause of the 1889–1890 pandemic in humans, and also another epidemic in 1898–1900.[8][9] Before the identification of H3N8 as a possible cause of the 1889 pandemic, the H2N2 subtype was suggested.[10][11][12] At this point, it is not possible to identify the virus for either the 1889 or 1900 outbreak with certainty.[13]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37990831/ or https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37990831/  link to https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2023.2287683  or https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2023.2287683 ;
Influenza viruses of the H3 subtype can infect a variety of hosts, such as humans, pigs, horses, dogs, cats, seals, monkeys and birds including poultry and wild birds [Citation6]. There have been three human cases of H3N8 subtype AIV infection in China since 2022, resulting in one death [Citation7,Citation8]. These cases, although sporadic, demonstrate that this subtype of AIV can be transmitted to mammalian hosts through an interspecific barrier and have raised concerns whether H3N8 AIVs will become a future major public health threat [Citation9].

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The H3N3 subtype was further identified using HA and NA specific primers [Citation10] and sequencing. The viruses were isolated by inoculation into 10-day-old specific-pathogen-free (SPF) embryonated chicken eggs with homogenate and named A/chicken/China/NT322/2023(H3N3) (NT322/H3N3) and A/chicken/China/NT308/2023(H3N3) (NT308/H3N3), respectively. Throat and cloacal swabs of chickens from a nearby live poultry market were also sampled and one strain A/chicken/China/J1247/2023(H3N3) was isolated.

DJ, Again; CoViD is NOT over-so flu can spread ON TOP OF CoViD. (Just like Mpox did see openings). H1,H2,H3 types of flu are high pandemic risk...

H5,H7,H9,H10 types of flu may interact with H1,H2,H3 most widespread types of (A) flu...CoViD and flu can co-spread/co-infect
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1. A belated bit of #flu news: has been informed of 5 more pediatric flu deaths this season, all of which occurred this month. They bring the total to date this season to 9. Kids 6 months and older can be vaccinated against flu. https://cdc.gov/fluview/surveillance/2024-week-51.html
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2. #Flu season is really picking up steam. 28 jurisdictions reported very high or high flu activity for the week ending Dec. 21 (left). Look at how much change there's been since the first week of Dec (right). Virtually all the activity is flu A; flu B often follows later in the season.
https://x.com/HelenBranswell/status/1873219384358920549/photo/1  or https://x.com/HelenBranswell/status/1873219384358920549/photo/1
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https://x.com/HelenBranswell/status/1873219384358920549/photo/2 or https://x.com/HelenBranswell/status/1873219384358920549/photo/2 
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3. In addition to #flu activity, there's plenty of #RSV making the rounds & #Covid activity is starting to pick up again as well. Though ER visits for the latter are low (but rising) right now, wastewater levels are high, so there is more to come.

DJ, A few remarks;
Pan-demic is a global/two or more WHO regions health issue. The WHO decides on a Public Health of International Concern PHOIC...a first warning sign for pandemic...(Mpox was a PHoIC-not a pandemic "old style" yet.)

WHO needs info from countries. English may be the most dominant language...it may NOT be the most spoken one...(China, India population 1,4 billion-lots of languages). 

For lots of reasons countries may not (be able to) provide info needed...realize the risks. 
(Coronavirus is ALSO a coldvirus...)
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DJ, I am NOT any kind of expert-only trying to get a basic view. Since I do have a (limited) history background I try to get events in (time)perspective. 

Pandemics are NOT new-and could have been expected. CoViD is NOT !!! over !

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🔥 LP.8.1 "Most importantly,we found that LP.8.1 showed comparable humoral immune evasion to XEC but demonstrated much increased ACE2 engagement efficiency, supporting its rapid growth." ➡️ Excellent 🧵 👇on this important new work,thanks et al 🙏
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. @yunlong_cao, @jianfcpku, & friends still releasing up-to-the-minute findings about the latest SARS-CoV-2 variants. Astounding how quickly they do this. Here's the latest, on LF.7.2.1, NP.1, and—last I checked—the current growth champion, LP.8.1 https://biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.12.27.630350v1
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So rapid growth? Within the body? Making for maybe more severe infection? Sorry, just want to understand. And are normal precautions N95 and cleaning air and vax going to still do a good job of protection?
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The latter remains very important, as LP.8.1 will infect you with a lower viral load!
DJ, So flu and CoViD "FluRona" are a global problem. The US has a record number of-most mild-H5N1 infections. China may have a H3N3 problem...

Worldwide both CoViD (from humans) and H5N1 (from birds)  jumped into (wild) mammals...CoViD still is an official pandemic-flu is not yet at that level...

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The FDA has classified its #recall of eggs sold under Costco's Kirkland brand as a Class I recall, a designation reserved for instances of the highest potential health risk — including death.

DJ, but "flu" (lots of (new) types, are a growing global risk. 
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China;

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/china-other-health-threats/china-pneumonia-respiratory-and-influenza-like-illnesses-ili/1003438-china-flu-a-h1n1-is-main-strain-multiple-respiratory-infections-are-present-dizziness-is-a-symptom-december-28-2024 or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/china-other-health-threats/china-pneumonia-respiratory-and-influenza-like-illnesses-ili/1003438-china-flu-a-h1n1-is-main-strain-multiple-respiratory-infections-are-present-dizziness-is-a-symptom-december-28-2024 ;

China - Flu A H1N1 is main strain. Multiple respiratory infections are present. Dizziness is a symptom - December 28, 2024


Is there a "new strain" that causes dizziness recently? Multiple respiratory infections are prevalent! Experts warn
December 28, 2024 07:35 The Paper
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  The latest monitoring results from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention show that acute respiratory infectious diseases in my country are on the rise, with mycoplasma viruses, syncytial viruses, etc. still at high levels. At the same time, influenza has entered the seasonal epidemic period, and the influenza virus positivity rate has shown a clear upward trend, but is still lower than the same period last year.


  Experts said that the peak season for influenza in northern China is from November to March of the following year. Taking Beijing as an example, the peak season came later this year, and the epidemic season gradually began in December. Monitoring results show that the main strain of influenza A H1N1 is the main strain of influenza A H1N1.


  Yan Weifeng, chief physician of the Department of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine at Beijing Haidian Hospital : When the weather just turned cold, there was a large wave of mycoplasma. As we enter the flu season, especially after December, we will find that influenza has increased significantly. Now, influenza ranks first again. Although mycoplasma still exists, the incidence rate is indeed lower than before.

DJ, Most countries see public health as "strategic" so "not for profits"....A lot of Asian countries do use masks to limit disease spread...Vaccinations are tax-funded and promoted. 

"Freedom of speech" misused to spread non-sense and hate are limited...DJ-Good info is a major tool in stopping/limiting pandemics. 
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Also from the link above (China);

 Yan Weifeng, chief physician of the Department of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine at Beijing Haidian Hospital: There is no so-called mutual immune system, that is, if you have influenza, you can also get mycoplasma, and vice versa. Moreover, these two viruses are likely to overlap with each other, because whether we have influenza or mycoplasma, the protective ability of the respiratory tract will decrease.

DJ, Only if someone is very lucky catching one disease ends up limiting another infection. In general catching one disease increases the chance for catching more diseases...

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/lf-7-2-1-lp-8-1-and-np-1-the-latest-sars-cov-2-variants-that-are-becoming-predominant-in-circulation or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/lf-7-2-1-lp-8-1-and-np-1-the-latest-sars-cov-2-variants-that-are-becoming-predominant-in-circulation link to;

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.12.27.630350v1 or https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.12.27.630350v1 ;

Abstract

XEC and KP.3.1.1 have surpassed KP.3 to become the globally dominant lineages due to their unique NTD mutations. However, several emerging JN.1 sublineages, such as LF.7.2.1, MC.10.1, NP.1, and, especially, LP.8.1, have demonstrated superior growth advantages compared to XEC. It is critical to access the virological and antigenic characteristics of these emerging SARS-CoV-2 variants. Here, we found that LF.7.2.1 is significantly more immune invasive than XEC, primarily due to the A475V mutation, which enabled the evasion of Class 1 neutralizing antibodies. However, LF.7.2.1's weak ACE2 binding affinity substantially impaired its fitness. Likewise, MC.10.1 and NP.1 exhibited strong antibody immune evasion due to the A435S mutation, but their limited ACE2 engagement efficiency restricted their growth advantage, suggesting that A435S may regulate the Spike conformation, similar to the NTD glycosylation mutations found in KP.3.1.1 and XEC. Most importantly, we found that LP.8.1 showed comparable humoral immune evasion to XEC but demonstrated much increased ACE2 engagement efficiency, supporting its rapid growth. These findings highlight the trade-off between immune evasion and ACE2 engagement efficiency in SARS-CoV-2 evolution, and underscore the importance of monitoring LP.8.1 These findings highlight the trade-off between immune evasion and ACE2 engagement efficiency in SARS-CoV-2 evolution, and underscore the importance of monitoring LP.8.1 and its descend lineages.


DJ, ACE2 are the "receptors"-doors that open to allow a virus into the cell of the host...

Catching CoViD does NOT result in herd/group-immunity ! Vaccination may limit diseases-but non-sterilizing vaccines do NOT stop catching the virus...

There is discussion/uncertainty on how much damage CoViD can do to immunity. 
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https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?time=2023-11-26..latest&country=USA~GBR~NLD~DEU~FRA~ESP or https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?time=2023-11-26..latest&country=USA~GBR~NLD~DEU~FRA~ESP 

Excess deaths still-in general- above "normal". 

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#H5N1 #AvianInfluenza updates 3 sequences of Raw #feline #petfood have been uploaded to from #Oregon PB2 mutations: T58A, V109I, V139I, V203X, E362G, K389R, D441N, I451T, G459V, V478I, V495I, *M631L*, V649I, M676A *#DairyCattle outbreak signature | B3.13 genotype

H5N1 keeps developing toward spread in mammals. 

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Tracking #SARSCoV2 #Lineages - Globally |12/28/24 Top lineages -#30DayTrends #G30 XEC (31%) KP.3.1.1 (22.4%) MC.1 (5.2%) XEC.2 (3.4%) LP.8.1 (2.6%)👀 MC.10.1 (2.6%) XEK (2.4%) MC.13 (1.9%) MC.16 (1.5%) 🔻Low seq count/Global Holiday 🔻 https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/raj.rajnarayanan/viz/ConvergentLineages-VariantSoup-World/G20 1/n

DJ, trends in CoViD variants worldwide...Not only holidays in the way...also lack of testing and in countries still kept poor lack of basic healthcare resulting in lack of data...

Totally unacceptable with CoViD being around since 2019...The real disease is humans have gone crazy...
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