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Nothing says Christmas like more #H5N1 #birdflu infected dairy herds. adds 11 California herds to the national count. California's total is 675 herds; the national total is 891 herds in 16 states. https://aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/hpai-confirmed-cases-livestock
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UK: A&E departments ‘absolutely full to bursting’ as flu surge worsens already dire situation “We simply don’t have enough beds in our hospitals for patients who are admitted as emergencies." The Independent
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DJ, food prices are already high so;
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FDA escalates recall of Costco eggs to include risks of 'severe illness or death' The recalled eggs are linked to salmonella exposure, apparently. ABC News

is bad news...
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⚠️ BREAKING: Mysterious Illness Kills 9th Victim in Rajouri; Investigation Launched A pregnant woman from Badhaal village in Rajouri district became the ninth suspected victim of a mysterious illness, which experts are still investigating.

DJ, Several countries reporting "mysterious diseases"...often malaria, CoViD -mixed with poverty, exhausted immunity...are factors. 
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CHOLERA OUTBREAK RAPIDLY WORSENS IN SOUTH SUDAN Displaced populations face dire living conditions fueling cholera spread. Without urgent interventions, cases are expected to surge dramatically in the coming days.

DJ, Getting weapons to Sudan, DRC,Congo,Syria...no problem...getting help there=impossible...

Humans are self-destructive... 
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H5N1 SHOWING SIGNS OF ADAPTING TO HUMANS Recent mutations (A134V, N182K, E186D) in the Louisiana H5N1 human case enhance the virus’s ability to bind to human-like α2-6 receptors in the upper respiratory tract. This is not good.
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If this sounds alarmist, good. Cuz it should. Bringing sick birds indoors is a disastrous decision that creates the perfect storm for zoonotic spillover. A confined space, high viral load, and direct human exposure. This is how pandemics are born 🧵

DJ, My view; it will be a multi disease pandemic...CoViD is not over...decreasing "herd" immunity in lots of mammals-so other diseases have tens of billions of hosts...creating exponential health risks...

It could be the worst possible imaginable pandemic scenario ever...We do not know what hit us (because we are dead...). 

Going for global war is just another indication for "homo sapiens" in fact are crazy humans...

"Don't look up" may be "nice" compared to what a multi-disease high spread pandemic-and its consequences-will bring. 

The world is sick...
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⚠️🚨 Ex-CDC Director: “There WILL Be a Bird Flu Pandemic” Dr. Redfield warns bird flu could dwarf COVID, saying it's a matter of "when," not "if." Dr. Redfield warns bird flu's 25-50% mortality rate could trigger an inevitable pandemic once it spreads human-to-human.

DJ, CoViD is also still widespread in lots of species...tens of billions of hosts...H5N1 -and other flu-types-also spread in many species. So both diseases have unseen numbers of hosts...With many species alse specific ro the species diseases...that may now start jumping to other species...Exponential x exponential spread...

Linear=1, 2. 3. 4, 5, 6,7, 8, 9, 10
Exponential= 1,2,4,8,16,32,64, 128,256,512...

Exponential x exponential=explosive...1,2, 4, 16, 256 (16x16)

We may still be in the very early phase...


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This year, outbreaks of Mpox, Marburg, Cholera, Dengue, and Avian Influenza have spread due to the climate crisis, warns Dr. Tedros. On International Day of Epidemic Preparedness, he calls for global cooperation to tackle shared threats and create a safer world. #PandemicAccord
DJ, Like with climate "saving the economy/short term profits" means ignoring all warning signs...War seems to be the only priority...increasing the risks even further. 

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H5N1 is showing signs of adapting to humans with recent mutations (A134V, N182K, E186D) enhancing its ability to bind to human-like α2-6 receptors in the upper respiratory tract. This raises serious concerns about the virus’s potential to become more transmissible among humans.

DJ, Indirect danger is spread into poultry, cattle decreasing dairy, eggs, meat, =food products. 

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"From the start of the pandemic until November 10, 2024, over 776.8 million confirmed #COVID19 cases and over 7M confirmed deaths were notified to WHO across 234 countries. The majority of COVID-19 assoc'ed deaths occurred in 2020, 2021, & 2022, with increased immunity leading to a significant decrease in deaths. For the latest 4 week reporting period, from 14 October to 10 November 2024, 77 countries reported COVID-19 cases & 27 deaths globally. The number of reported cases decreased by 39%, with over 200,000 new cases & 36% of new deaths, compared to the previous 28 days." -- WHO

DJ, https://www.thailandmedical.news/ or https://www.thailandmedical.news/ has an estimated number of CoViD human infections over 4,3 billion, with over 38 million CoViD deaths...

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Out of 701 stray cats in the Netherlands, 83 tested positive for exposure to highly pathogenic avian influenza. While only 4 out of 871 domestic cats showed the same. 40 domestic cats were exposed to human influenza viruses.

DJ, NL is doing quite well in care for stray cats...Lots of other countries may see higher numbers.  link https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2024.29.44.2400326  or https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2024.29.44.2400326 

DJ, My non-expert view should leave lots of room for uncertainty. Immunity may be unpredictable...Flu is supposed to be self-limiting; People are supposed to have immunity after catching flu...Unless CoViD is undoing getting immunity...

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INFLUENZA - JAPAN Influenza continues to rage across Japan, with an *1.67 million people* becoming sick and seeing doctors in the week through last Sunday. Double the level the week before.

DJ, Japan does accept masks...
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https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/12/cdc-genetic-sequences-of-hpai-ah5n1.html  or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/12/cdc-genetic-sequences-of-hpai-ah5n1.html ;

When an avian influenza virus manages to infect a mammalian host, it begins to produce millions of copies of itself, but as a single-stranded RNA virus it lacks the `error-checking' skills of DNA viruses, and is prone to making errors.  

When a transcription error makes the virus better suited to a mammalian host, it is more likely to thrive, allowing it to make many more copies with this `host adaptation'. 

As a result of these `spontaneous mutations', at some point during an infection you may have multiple `variants' of the virus all circulating within a single host, each  battling for dominance. Most mutations offer no benefits - or are even detrimental to the virus - but a number are known to convey a significant advantage. 

An avian virus that acquires the PB2-E627K substitution, for instance, is able to replicate efficiently at the lower temperatures (roughly 33C) found in the upper respiratory tract of mammals, while the HA-Q226L mutation switches binding preferentially to human receptor cells.

Mutations that occur in an infected host, but are not transmitted onward, are of less concern than those found in the `wild'. A prime example, the H275Y mutation which occurs in roughly 1% of patients receiving oseltamivir was thought incapable of spreading efficiently as late as 2007.

That is, until several `permissive' mutations in the NA changed the rules (see Permissive Secondary Mutations Enable the Evolution of Influenza Oseltamivir Resistance) unexpectantly sending a resistant H1N1 virus on a world tour in 2008.

Last night the CDC published a report on the genetic sequences from the first severe H5N1 infection in the United States, which was linked to backyard bird exposure in Louisiana. 

While `red flag' mutations (e.g. PB2-E627K, HA-Q226L, etc.) were absent, they did find some mutations in the HA that suggest potential mammalian adaptation. Mutations that were not found in the birds they tested, suggesting they were `in-host' spontaneous mutations. 

Both the Canadian and the U.S. severe cases were caused by the new D1.1 genotype, which is spreading rapidly in birds. They also share an E186D mutation, which has previously been linked to increased virulence and improved binding to a2,6 human receptor cells.

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While many seem reassured by the relatively mild presentation (so far) of the `bovine' B3.13 genotype in humans, this D1.1 genotype has already produced 2 severe illnesses, and is very aggressive in both poultry and wild birds. 

The superpower of influenza A is its ability to continually reinvent itself, either through random mutations (antigenic drift), or via reassortment (antigenic shift).  

Genotype D1.1 may currently lack the ability to spread efficiently between humans, but it is truly a work in progress. Each new spillover, particularly into a mammalian host, provides the virus with another opportunity to evolve and adapt.  

And the D1.1 genotype isn't alone. 

More than 100 genotypes have been documented in North America since H5N1 arrived in 2021, and more are expected. Globally, the number is much higher. Most fail to thrive, but each represents another free spin for the virus on the genetic wheel of fortune. 

It is obviously not easy for nature to create a pandemic virus.  If it were, we'd be knee deep in pandemics all the time.  

But nature is nothing, if not persistent.  And we underestimate its ability to serve up curve balls at our considerable peril. 

DJ, The spread of H5-types of flu-H7, H10 9etc)  in many species only increases the chances of mutations that may be a risk for humans. 

Lots of other diseases are also "out of control".

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/960736-avian-flu-h5n1-discussion-news-case-lists-links-2022?view=stream  or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/960736-avian-flu-h5n1-discussion-news-case-lists-links-2022?view=stream ;

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Bird poop may be the key to stopping the next flu pandemic. Here’s why.

By Brenda Goodman, CNN
10 minute read
Published 7:06 AM EST, Fri December 27, 2024
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On his first trip to the Delaware Bay in 1985, Webster and his team found that 20 percent of the bird poop samples they brought back with them contained influenza viruses, and they realized the area was an ideal observatory to track flu viruses as they traveled in birds along the Atlantic flyway, which runs between South America and the Artic Circle in northern Canada.
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The team at Cape May had never before found H5N1 in the birds they sampled there. But with the virus spreading in cows in several states, they wondered where else it might be. Had it reached these birds, too?
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After fully sequencing the samples this year, they didn’t find H5N1 in either the Cape May samples or the duck samples from Canada.

“We don’t know exactly why,” Kercher said in an interview last week. “We’ve always been a little curious about that.”
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After missing the virus in the spring and summer, the the St. Jude team moved the mobile lab to a location they’d never tried before: a huge wintering ground for mallards and other ducks in northwest Tennessee.

They swabbed 534 ducks there in November and December and found the D1.1 genotype of the virus in about a dozen samples.

“We did get the same strain that’s causing all the havoc in the people and in the wild birds,” Kercher said.

D1.1 is a newer group of viruses. Scientists don’t know as much about it as they’ve learned about the cattle viruses. But the team’s samples, they said, have helped them connect the virus to the Mississippi flyway, which runs through central Canada, and follows the Mississippi River to the Gulf of Mexico.
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The surveillance data that the team collected recently contributed to a new preprint study, which was posted last week ahead of peer review.
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DJ, Lots of animals eat "wild bird droppings" and will catch the virus. Including mice, rats...-getting eaten by cats...
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