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https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/03/netherlands-moa-start-of-first-pilot.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/03/netherlands-moa-start-of-first-pilot.html;
As we discussed two days ago, in UK Joint Taskforce Policy Paper: Vaccination of Birds Against HPAIV (bird flu) - while a handful of countries have embraced poultry vaccination against avian flu - most countries remain hesitant to move in that direction over safety and international trade concerns.
Despite these concerns, research into poultry avian flu vaccines continues in many countries, including here in the United States (see Zoetis Receives Conditional License from USDA for Avian Influenza Vaccine).
In 2023, the Netherlands - after determining that two (of 4) vaccines appeared effective against the newer clade of H5N1 - began the 1st phase of the field trial (see WUR press statement below).
DJ, It will bring some vaccine-immunity evading mutation selection. However the alternative is doing nothing ? So...maybe going for vaccines may be the "best of bad choices"...it may buy us time. The big step is moving away from animals as food...(and maybe even pets ???).
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< aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="menu" aria-label="More" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" -testid="caret" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> Differnet outcomes b/w bovine H5N1, and human case of bovine H5N1. Human virus = enhanced polymerase activity vs bovine, in human cells. PB2 mutation E627K is major contributor. PB2 E362G, K627E affect morbidity, mortality, and viral replication.
- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/patna/bird-flu-30-human-samples-to-be-sent-for-testing-no-need-to-panic-says-civil-surgeon/articleshow/118819468.cms or https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/patna/bird-flu-30-human-samples-to-be-sent-for-testing-no-need-to-panic-says-civil-surgeon/articleshow/118819468.cms ; < aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="menu" aria-label="More" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" -testid="caret" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> India: 30 human bird flu samples sent for testing
"No need to panic", says civil surgeon.
The Times of India DJ, After poultry outbreak in India also farmworkers are now beeing tested... < aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="menu" aria-label="More" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" -testid="caret" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> DJ, what part of H5N1 is already "mixed up" in "normal flu"? How much is CoViD spreading in combination with Flu-is there any testing on CoViD...Could it be CoViD is escaping testing in (severe) flu cases ????
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles ;
Measles is an airborne disease which spreads easily from one person to the next through the coughs and sneezes of infected people.[7] It may also be spread through direct contact with mouth or nasal secretions.[16] It is extremely contagious: nine out of ten people who are not immune and share living space with an infected person will be infected.[5] Furthermore, measles's reproductive number estimates vary beyond the frequently cited range of 12 to 18,[17] with a 2017 review giving a range of 3.7 to 203.3.[18] People are infectious to others from four days before to four days after the start of the rash.[5] While often regarded as a childhood illness, it can affect people of any age.[19] Most people do not get the disease more than once.[7] Testing for the measles virus in suspected cases is important for public health efforts.[5] Measles is not known to occur in other animals.[16] - DJ, So...are we already in a multi-diease pandemic ? With several diseases on epedemic level in two/more WHO global regions ? In the US/Canada "measles has returned". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_measles#Incidence or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_measles#Incidence Measles is a problem in Morooco, Romania...(among other countries). https://www.rivm.nl/en/measles or https://www.rivm.nl/en/measles ;NL situation; Since we started vaccinating children against measles, the disease has become much less common. There are usually 10 to 20 patients a year. Many of these have been in a country where measles is more common. There is an epidemic about once every 10 to 15 years. When that happens, measles is most likely to spread in areas where fewer people are vaccinated. The last measles outbreak in the Netherlands was in 2013/2014. During that outbreak, more than 180 measles patients were admitted to hospital. One 17-year-old girl died of the consequences of measles. RIVM is closely monitoring the spread of measles and posting updates on the current situation on the website. Can a person with measles go to childcare, school or work?No, a person with measles cannot go to children, school or work. If you suspect that your child has measles, keep the child at home and call the GP. - Update 5 February 2025In 2025, there have been 26 cases of measles reported by Municipal Public Health Services (GGDs) in various regions of the Netherlands. Most involve patients who contracted measles in another country, and their contacts (who are often unvaccinated). There is no national outbreak of measles at this time. In 2024, there were more than 200 reported cases of measles in the Netherlands in total. There were four larger clusters, each of which gradually subsided. This is because the majority of the Dutch population is protected against measles โ either by vaccination, or because they have already had measles. DJ, So 26 measles cases in 2025-till february 5 update-with a "normal" of 10-20 measles cases per year in NL is "above the norm"... https://www.vax-before-travel.com/2025/02/23/57-countries-confirming-measles-outbreaks or https://www.vax-before-travel.com/2025/02/23/57-countries-confirming-measles-outbreaks ;(Vax-Before-Travel News) Over the past two years, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has issued Travel Health Advisories focused on measles outbreaks. These advisories highlight where there is an active health risk when people visit the highlighted countries. On February 21, 2025, the CDC reissued a Level 1, Practice Usual Precautions, alert for 57 countries. This CDC list does not integrate the Region of the Americas, with numerous countries reporting 537 measles outbreaks this year. DJ, the "travel map" has measles in Europe, Africa, Asia...So with also lots of cases in North America...YES...we may be in a measles-pandemic...
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https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/india-media-reports-massive-surge-of-severe-flu-infections-in-delhi-with-many-hospitalized-is-it-really-h5n1 or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/india-media-reports-massive-surge-of-severe-flu-infections-in-delhi-with-many-hospitalized-is-it-really-h5n1
DJ, Both the US/Canada and SE Asia did see human H5N1 cases in 2024. However-in general-still "limited" numbers/mild disease...In SE Asia most children died from a H5N1 infection.. Australia did see a small girl testing positive for H5N1-imported from India. However India did NOT report human cases of H5N1. So the Australian child may have been exposed to poultry-spread H5N1 in India ? - CoViD is STILL a pandemic, NOT mild, NOT under control...It is weakening immunity defense. Very likely a major factor behind Mpox clades going global since 2022... The news on Mpox cases is under control..the disease is NOT ! - So..CoVid and Mpox, Measles are now part of a multi disease pandemic. With HIV-AIDS still an "old" pandemic. "Flu" is a "growing problem"-could be seen as going pandemic when (global) cases do not go down fas enough after flu-season. H5-flu is widespread in many species-just like CoViD is. So-new mutations will increase further risks...
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