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   Of course the discussion/idea of "climate collapse" is bad for profits and the politicians they buy...
https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-predicament-of-climate-scientists-on-the-road-to-a-super-tropical-earth.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-predicament-of-climate-scientists-on-the-road-to-a-super-tropical-earth.html ;

As temperatures in large parts of the Earth are soaring (cf. 52.3°C in Delhi, flames engulf large regions in California, tornadoes ravage the Gulf of Mexico states, severe drought starve populations in southern Africa and climate extremes continue to taking over large parts of the Earth. 

Much like oncologists advising patients and their families of a terminal illness, so do climate scientists agonizing while reporting the advent of dangerous warming as temperatures rise and tipping points are broken.

 But while climate change has become more than evident, there is a heavy price to be paid by those who try to alert the public.
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Antarctica is losing ice at an average rate of more than 150 billion tons per year, and Greenland is losing more than 270 billion tons per year, adding to sea level rise. Some glaciologists and Arctic scientists consider the accelerated rate of glacial melt in Greenland and West Antarctica may result in little remaining ice over these terrains toward the end of the century, leading to sea level rise on the scale of many meters, with catastrophic consequences for coastal and river valley population centres.

The Arctic Ocean contains vast amounts of carbon accumulated during the Pleistocene ice ages. The greenhouse effect of methane traps up to 100 times more heat in the atmosphere than carbon dioxide within a 5 year period, and 72 times more within a 20 year period. Atmospheric levels of greenhouse gases – carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide – continued their climb during 2023 according to the latest measurements from NOAA and CIRES scientists. The current CO₂ growth rate threatens an irreversible shift in the state of the Earth climate through looming tipping points, including transient cooling events induced by flow of cold ice melt water into the oceans from Greenland and Antarctica; Glikson (2019).
DJ...of course climate collapse does cause pandemics...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction 

In latest news I opened an item on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism ....

Who needs science anyway ? 

Here in NL https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_stikstoffuik 
is selling very well ! The same "writer" produced also a "book" denying climate collapse...

"We do not want to know"...Do not look up ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Up or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Up 

...so.."close your eyes and let's imagine there is no climate collapse"....That will work !
There is little evidence that climate science had much of an effect on the outcome of the Paris Agreement. The warming target of +1.5°C has already been breached over the continents or is masked by the reflective albedo of transient sulphur aerosols. At the current growth rate of ~3 ppm/year CO₂ will rise closer to the stability threshold of the polar ice sheets.
Little encouragement can be gained from the non-binding promises emerging from climate conferences, which James Hansen described as a “fraud”.
While the implications of the global climate emergency have reached the defence establishment, the world continues to spend near to $2.4 trillion each year on the military instead on the protection of life.

As the portents for a major mass extinction of species are rising – who will defend life on Earth?

A/Prof. Andrew Y Glikson
Earth and climate scientist

DJ, We need another "revolution" when politics only cares for profits...

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Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 23 Jun 2024 Status: Offline Points: 554	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 2024 at 11:47pm
	Of course the discussion/idea of "climate collapse" is bad for profits and the politicians they buy... https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-predicament-of-climate-scientists-on-the-road-to-a-super-tropical-earth.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-predicament-of-climate-scientists-on-the-road-to-a-super-tropical-earth.html ; As temperatures in large parts of the Earth are soaring (cf. 52.3°C in Delhi, flames engulf large regions in California, tornadoes ravage the Gulf of Mexico states, severe drought starve populations in southern Africa and climate extremes continue to taking over large parts of the Earth. Much like oncologists advising patients and their families of a terminal illness, so do climate scientists agonizing while reporting the advent of dangerous warming as temperatures rise and tipping points are broken. But while climate change has become more than evident, there is a heavy price to be paid by those who try to alert the public. - Antarctica is losing ice at an average rate of more than 150 billion tons per year, and Greenland is losing more than 270 billion tons per year, adding to sea level rise. Some glaciologists and Arctic scientists consider the accelerated rate of glacial melt in Greenland and West Antarctica may result in little remaining ice over these terrains toward the end of the century, leading to sea level rise on the scale of many meters, with catastrophic consequences for coastal and river valley population centres. The Arctic Ocean contains vast amounts of carbon accumulated during the Pleistocene ice ages. The greenhouse effect of methane traps up to 100 times more heat in the atmosphere than carbon dioxide within a 5 year period, and 72 times more within a 20 year period. Atmospheric levels of greenhouse gases – carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide – continued their climb during 2023 according to the latest measurements from NOAA and CIRES scientists. The current CO₂ growth rate threatens an irreversible shift in the state of the Earth climate through looming tipping points, including transient cooling events induced by flow of cold ice melt water into the oceans from Greenland and Antarctica; Glikson (2019). DJ...of course climate collapse does cause pandemics...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction In latest news I opened an item on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism .... Who needs science anyway ? Here in NL https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_stikstoffuik is selling very well ! The same "writer" produced also a "book" denying climate collapse... "We do not want to know"...Do not look up ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Up or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Up ...so.."close your eyes and let's imagine there is no climate collapse"....That will work ! There is little evidence that climate science had much of an effect on the outcome of the Paris Agreement. The warming target of +1.5°C has already been breached over the continents or is masked by the reflective albedo of transient sulphur aerosols. At the current growth rate of ~3 ppm/year CO₂ will rise closer to the stability threshold of the polar ice sheets. Little encouragement can be gained from the non-binding promises emerging from climate conferences, which James Hansen described as a “fraud”. While the implications of the global climate emergency have reached the defence establishment, the world continues to spend near to $2.4 trillion each year on the military instead on the protection of life. As the portents for a major mass extinction of species are rising – who will defend life on Earth? A/Prof. Andrew Y Glikson Earth and climate scientist DJ, We need another "revolution" when politics only cares for profits...

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	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EumZ_RVMqw or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EumZ_RVMqw Firstpost-India: How Long Before Earth Becomes Uninhabitable? \| Firstpost Earth Let’s talk about Earth, how far it has come and where it is going. So far, Earth is the only planet known to mankind that supports life. Our planet has nurtured the human race for millions of years. But now, the planet has reached a point of no return because of climate change and global warming. In this report, we try to understand some of the issues that have gravely affected our planet and with this attempt, we are barely scratching the surface. We also try to understand how much time we have until the planet becomes uninhabitable. Does this planet have an expiry date. DJ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature#Wet-bulb_temperature_and_health or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature#Wet-bulb_temperature_and_health may be even a larger risk than running out of drinkable water for all humans (by 2040-2050 ?). Pandemics also are related to all kinds of life on the move because of climate collapse.. https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4145.600.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4145.600.html#lastPost ; Arctic: Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2024 of 3.97 million KM2, 0.79 million KM2 above the September 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million KM2, and 4th lowest in the satellite record Antarctic: Average remaining freeze (of the last 10 years) would produce a maximum in Sept 2023 of 16.79 million km2, 0.19 million km2 below the 2023 record low maximum of 16.99 million km2, which would be 1st lowest in the satellite record. In 10 of the 18 years from 2006 to 2023, gain from now is low enough to produce a new record low maximum DJ, Polar ice is keeping Earth "cool"...and YES-Earth has seen warmer periods in its history...The problem however is; -Now there are over 8.1 billion humans living on the planet...the earlier warm periods were "pre-human"... -The speed of warming is that much faster "life" can not adapt to it... DJ-We may not understand ALL of climate processes...we should at least understand we have become very vulnerable...A volcanic eruption in Antarctica could even speed up glacier break down there...Linear models may ignore "extreme events" that can bring much more damage high speed..

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 23 Jun 2024 Status: Offline Points: 554	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Aug 2024 at 12:18am
	DJ https://www.ventusky.com/?p=53.5;-50.2;3&l=temperature-2m or https://www.ventusky.com/?p=53.5;-50.2;3&l=temperature-2m indicating parts of Greenland may see 20C+ .... https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/thickest-sea-ice-breaking-away-from-greenland.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/thickest-sea-ice-breaking-away-from-greenland.html ; Large pieces of sea ice are breaking away from the northern tip of Greenland, to be carried by ocean currents to the Fram Strait east of Greenland. On their way they will melt away, illustrating how ocean heat can make even the thickest parts of the sea ice disappear in a matter of days. The thick sea ice north of Greenland is breaking away due to high ocean heat and due to strong wind blowing from Greenland toward the North Pole, which is in turn due to deformation of the Jet Stream, one of the many feedbacks of the temperature rise. - The above image shows wind at 250 hPa and sea surface temperature, with a temperature of 0.9°C (33.5°F) highlighted at the green circle just north of Greenland, on July 29, 2024. See also https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4112.msg406518.html#msg406518 or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4112.msg406518.html#msg406518 ; 26 July 2024 SMB gain to date is 427GT, 21GT (5%) below the 2017-2022 average of 448GT, and very close to the longterm average from DMI. N.B. SMB is now reducing as run-off from melt exceeds precipitation. Daily Melt remains at extreme levels for the time of year. Until this day (26 July) daily SMB loss was mostly above average in July. DJ...Politicians-for-sale work ONLY for profits...destroying the planet.