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Dutch Josh 2
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Posted: 02 Sep 2024 at 2:21am |
Can one compare a language with a species ? Both can get extinct...or very dominant...
Does the spread of a lunguage influence pandemics ? A "story" is China did publish quite a lot of info on CoViD allready in 2019-however in Mandarin/Chinese...A lot of "westerners" expected ALL science to be published in English... - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAUVbUl24eM or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAUVbUl24eM A song in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaans or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaans ; Although Afrikaans has adopted words from other languages, including German and the Khoisan languages, an estimated 90 to 95% of the vocabulary of Afrikaans is of Dutch origin.[n 1] Differences between Afrikaans and Dutch often lie in the more analytic morphology and grammar of Afrikaans, and different spellings.[n 2] There is a large degree of mutual intelligibility between the two languages, especially in written form.[10] DJ, Afrikaans is spoken by 10 million+ people...The https://taalunie.org/over-de-taalunie-/wie-wij-zijn or https://taalunie.org/over-de-taalunie-/wie-wij-zijn however is active in Dutch in NL, Flanders-Belgium and Surinam(e).... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_German or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_German ;Low German[b] is a West Germanic language[12][13] spoken mainly in Northern Germany and the northeastern Netherlands. The dialect of Plautdietsch is also spoken in the Russian Mennonite diaspora worldwide. Another 5-10 million people speak "Low German"... Can one see Flemish, Low-German, Afrikaans etc. as "variants" of "Dutch"? (Like a lot of diseases have variants/mutations...is there a common mechanism behind it ? )...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Netherland#Language_and_place_names or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Netherland#Language_and_place_names ;
Dutch continued to be spoken in the region for some time. President Martin Van Buren grew up in Kinderhook, New York speaking only Dutch, becoming the only president not to have spoken English as a first language.[88] A dialect known as Jersey Dutch was spoken in and around rural Bergen and Passaic counties in New Jersey until the early 20th century.[89] Mohawk Dutch was spoken around Albany.[90] Early settlers and their descendants gave many place names that are still in use throughout the region of New Netherland.[9] They adapted Indian names for locations such as Manhattan, Hackensack, Sing-Sing, and Canarsie. Peekskill, Catskill, and Cresskill all refer to the streams, or kils, around which they grew. Among those that use hoek, meaning corner,[91] are Constable Hook, Kinderhook, Paulus Hook, Red Hook, and Sandy Hook. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Flanders or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Flanders ; French Flanders (French: La Flandre française, pronounced [flɑ̃dʁə fʁɑ̃sɛz])[1] is a part of the historical County of Flanders, where Flemish—a Low Franconian dialect cluster of Dutch—was (and to some extent, still is) traditionally spoken. The region lies in the modern-day northern French region of Hauts-de-France, and roughly corresponds to the arrondissements of Lille, Douai and Dunkirk on the northern border with Belgium. Together, with French Hainaut and Cambrésis, it makes up the French Department of Nord. DJ, When the French occupied a part of Flanders slowly they enforced French...English was enforced upon the Dutch "Yankees" (from Jan Kees-NL male names, DJ-I think "Janneke" a womans name in Dutch may be more likely. The British and "American Dutch" did not have a good relation"...it may in part explain why in 1776 the US did break away from the "British"...and also why English is NOT the official US language...). In Germany hitler ended Lower German being spoken in 1936... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_language#History or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_language#History At the end of the Middle Ages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League "a sort of Dutch" was spoken from Northern France to the Baltic States...(with lots of variations).
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Dutch Josh 2
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DJ, At present even in NL English is becoming quite dominant...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_language#Geographic_distribution or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_language#Geographic_distribution
New Netherlands-USA, like the Dutch East Indies/Indonesia did see the Dutch language disappear within a few generations after the end of being "Dutch".... In the US English, Indonesia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayic_languages or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayic_languages became (again) dominant... Brussel once was the largest Dutch speaking city...the French/Walon speaking Belgians however moved the French speaking area north...
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DJ-One can compare two very different things; langauges and diseases...both may be around for centuries and change/evolve...maybe even stop existing...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Dutch_origin or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Dutch_origin ; This is an incomplete list of Dutch expressions used in English; some are relatively common (e.g. cookie), some are comparatively rare. In a survey by Joseph M. Williams in Origins of the English Language it is estimated that about 1% of English words are of Dutch origin.[1] DJ, besides that both (Old)Dutch and (Old)English both are West-Germanic languages-part of the Indo-German language group... From Old Dutch[edit]
For some loanwords stemming from this period it is not always clear whether they are of Old Dutch, Old Norse, another Germanic language or an unknown Old English origin. These words have been excluded from the list, or indicated as such. From Middle Dutch[edit]
The Hanseatic League had in the late Middle Ages a trade network along the coast of Northern Europe and England, using to Dutch related Middle Low German as lingua franca. Some loanwords from this period could come from either language. These words have been excluded from the list, or indicated as such. From Modern Dutch[edit]
DJ, So there are long term links between English and Dutch over a long time/area...(a.o. via French...).
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