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    Posted: 26 Jun 2024 at 2:03am
https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/06/how-hot-will-it-get.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/06/how-hot-will-it-get.html ;

Currently, the temperature in the Northern Hemisphere is higher than it was last year at this time of year, as illustrated by the image below, created with University of Maine content. The image shows that a temperature of 21.1°C was reached in the Northern Hemisphere on June 17, 2024. The question is: Will temperatures over the next few months exceed the high temperatures reached last year? 
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El Niño is no longer prevalent and La Niña conditions are expected to be dominant soon, as illustrated by the NOAA ENSO update on the right, from an earlier post.

Nonetheless, there are fears that temperatures will remain high and continue to rise, as self-amplifying feedbacks have taken over as the dominant drivers of the temperature rise.
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Rising temperatures are also behind the decline of sea ice and permafrost, which can in turn result in huge emissions of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide. 

Deformation of the Jet Stream is another important feedback and it particularly affects the Northern Hemisphere where the Arctic heats up more rapidly than the rest of the world, thus narrowing the temperature difference between the Tropics and the Arctic, which changes the shape of the Jet Stream. The Jet Stream will meander more and can at times even form circular wind patterns in some areas, which can strongly amplify extreme weather events such as storms that come with flooding and heatwaves that come with forest fires on land. Over oceans, the impact of deformation of the Jet Stream is even larger, since wind tends to be stronger over oceans than over land. Near the ocean, the greater temperature difference between land and sea will result in stronger winds. 
DJ, Jet Stream disruption can bring cold air to places not used to the cold...Some idiots/politicians will claim that as proof "there is no climate change"...

The world may have some perspective without these idiots...

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=41;-94;2&l=temperature-anomaly-2m or https://www.ventusky.com/?p=41;-94;2&l=temperature-anomaly-2m providing info on 2m anomaly temperatures...

Warmer oceans=more rain, stronger storms...

We may see extreme weather on a level never seen before in human history. 

Average global temperatures the last months is above 2C-"pre industrial"...Fools/politicians may go for "pre-industrial = the year 2000" and "we need a 10 year average"...

DJ-Within a decade life on this planet will become "very hard"...We need to do much more to deal with damage allready on its way...instead we end up with fools/politics "buying time/saving profits"...

Learning the hard way will kill us all...
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https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/c-change/subtopics/coronavirus-and-climate-change/ or https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/c-change/subtopics/coronavirus-and-climate-change/ ;

As the planet heats up, animals big and small, on land and in the sea, are headed to the poles to get out of the heat. That means animals are coming into contact with other animals they normally wouldn’t, and that creates an opportunity for pathogens to get into new hosts.

Many of the root causes of climate change also increase the risk of pandemics. Deforestation, which occurs mostly for agricultural purposes, is the largest cause of habitat loss worldwide. Loss of habitat forces animals to migrate and potentially contact other animals or people and share germs. Large livestock farms can also serve as a source for spillover of infections from animals to people. Less demand for animal meat and more sustainable animal husbandry could decrease emerging infectious disease risk and lower greenhouse gas emissions.

We have many reasons to take climate action to improve our health and reducing risks for infectious disease emergence is one of them.


DJ; Climate collapse = pandemics ! 

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/southeast-asia-fires-linked-to-100000-deaths/ or https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/southeast-asia-fires-linked-to-100000-deaths/ ;

A series of fires in Indonesia in 2015 to clear land for agriculture caused an estimated 100,000 premature deaths in Indonesia, Malaysia, and Singapore. That’s according to a new study from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and Harvard John A. Paulson School of Engineering and Applied Sciences (SEAS), in collaboration with colleagues from Columbia University.

According to an August 20, 2016 New York Times article, the fires were deliberately set in August 2015 to clear land for palm oil plantations and other agricultural uses. By the fall, smoke from the fires blanketed large portions of Southeast Asia, closing schools and businesses, grounding planes, and forcing tens of thousands of people to seek medical treatment for respiratory illness. The researchers say exposure to fine particle pollution from burning forests, in particular carbon-rich peatlands, is responsible for premature deaths across the region.

DJ, If the only "value" humans care for is money/profits we keep killing ourselves. It is the poor now paying the highest price...but it does NOT stop there...
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https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ or https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ ;
CATEGORY 5 BERYL STILL INTENSIFYING IN THE SOUTHEASTERN CARIBBEAN... ...EXPECTED TO BRING LIFE-THREATENING WINDS AND STORM SURGE TO JAMAICA LATER THIS WEEK...

DJ, The "good news" is "Beryl" may take away much of the strength of another storm behind it...https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/#96L or https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/#96L "Debby" may have to wait...

Beryl is the strongest hurricane this early in a year...

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2322597121 or https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2322597121 ;
For a number of years, I have argued that we are now, thanks to the effects of human-caused warming, experiencing a new class of monster storms—”category 6” hurricanes. That is to say, we are witnessing hurricanes that—by any logical extension of the existing Saffir-Simpson scale—deserve to be placed in a whole separate, more destructive category from the traditionally defined (category 5) “strongest” storms. 

Up until now, that was really just a matter of opinion (1). There was no peer-reviewed research to justify the assertion. Now there is, with a new article by Wehner and Kossin in PNAS (2) that lays out a rigorous, objective case for expanding the scale to accommodate climate change-fueled tropical cyclones that are qualitatively stronger and more destructive than conventionally defined category 5 storms.
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Extrapolating the existing Saffir–Simpson scale, Wehner and Kossin argue that a storm with sustained winds exceeding 86 m/s/192 mph sustained winds, with substantially greater destructive potential than a conventionally defined category 5 storm, should be defined as a whole new category: category 6. A “cat 6” hurricane, in fact, is hardly just a hypothetical or theoretical construct. The authors note that five storms, all of which have occurred during the past decade—and some of which have proven catastrophic in their impacts—have exceeded that threshold. They include the eastern Pacific hurricane Patricia with its 216 mph peak winds, which made landfall in Jalisco Mexico in October 2015, and four typhoons in the western Pacific (Surigae, 196 mph, which tracked out at sea east of the Philippines in April 2021; Goni, 196 mph, which made landfall in the Philippines in November 2020; Meranti, 195 mph, which impacted Taiwan and the Philippines, landfalling in eastern China in September 2016; Haiyan, 195 mph, with its deadly and devastating landfall in the Philippines in November 2013).

DJ, there are discussions on a cat7 definition for hurricanes https://hypotheticalhurricanes.fandom.com/wiki/Category_7 or https://hypotheticalhurricanes.fandom.com/wiki/Category_7 ;
Category 7 is a hypothetical rating beyond the maximum rating of Category 5. A storm of this magnitude would most likely have winds between 215 and 245 mph, with a minimum pressure between 820-845 millibars. The storm could likely have a large wind field and a small eye. Maximum wave heights from a Category 7 hurricane may be as high as 65 feet. These storms are extremely dangerous and deadly.

DJ, It is not only about the strength...also the numbers matter...If Florida would end up with five hurricanes each year it may "not be the best place to be/desinvest !"...

Like pandemics climate collapse is dealing with political "saving the economy" stupidity...Climate collapse = pandemics !
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https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=us&pkg=mslp_uv850&runtime=2024070212&fh=168 or https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=us&pkg=mslp_uv850&runtime=2024070212&fh=168 

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=31.0;-57.2;3&l=gust&t=20240708/0600 or https://www.ventusky.com/?p=31.0;-57.2;3&l=gust&t=20240708/0600 

Monday July 8 models suggest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Beryl_(2024) or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Beryl_(2024) may make landfall in Texas...even more to the east ???

Very likely regaining a lot of strength...
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A big thank you to for being with us in The Hague to support the protest!

DJ, Governments, politics, destroying the planet...The "general public" does NOT want to know THEY-the way "we" live-is destroying planet Earth...

So we may expect anti-terrorism laws to stop protests against our planet being destroyed...

https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/carbon-dioxide-keeps-rising-in-june-2024.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/carbon-dioxide-keeps-rising-in-june-2024.html 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uGsYWImso0 or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uGsYWImso0 Paul Beckwith; 

Category 6 Hurricanes (CAT6) already occur: we are on the cusp for CAT7

A comment; 

Category 8: no measurements available due to complete planetary extinction
DJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_a_Thousand_Cuts_(disambiguation) or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_a_Thousand_Cuts_(disambiguation) 

Pandemics are part of climate collapse...droughts, methane release, even seismic events can be linked to climate collapse...

The further in the climate collapse process the faster events follow eachother...And the harder it gets to limit damage...

Will a few humans survive in a space station, on the moon ? 

Are "we" pushing for global nuclear war because "we" know "it is beyond repair"? 

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We have made it to the #A12, where Dutch authorities are once again turning water cannons on peaceful protesters, instead of listening to the scientific consensus: we need urgent climate action now!
As so often governments go for violence instead of answers...
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https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/024402.shtml?cone#contents or https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/024402.shtml?cone#contents 

"Beryl" will bring bad weather over the central US/Eastern Canada the coming week...
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https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/death-valley-extreme-week-hottest-california-b2573588.html or https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/death-valley-extreme-week-hottest-california-b2573588.html ;

Death Valley is set to experience what could be the hottest week recorded anywhere on Earth, with temperatures predicted to reach a high of 133F.

Fourth of July week will see “record-breaking and dangerous heat”, beginning on Independence Day itself when the mercury is predicted to hit 125F.

Temperatures are predicted to climb steadily over the following days, peaking at 133F on July 9 – just shy of the hottest air temperature ever recorded there over 100 years ago.


DJ, Here in NL/Western Europe;
https://www.estofex.org/ or https://www.estofex.org/ ;
A level 2 was issued across far NE France into Benelux and far NW Germany mainly for damaging gusts.

A level 1 surrounds that risk for similar hazards but with lower probabilities. An isolated tornado is possible along the cold front over Belgium/the Netherlands. In addition, a few heavy rain and large hail events are forecast.

We may see "fall winds" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katabatic_wind or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katabatic_wind of close to 100 miles p/h in this region...
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South Pole/Antarctica;
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1759.4550.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1759.4550.html#lastPost ;

JAXA ANTARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  13,973,019 KM2 as at 14-Jul-2024

- Extent loss on this day 21k, 74 k less than the average gain on this day (of the last 10 years) of 53k,
- Extent gain from minimum on this date is 11.88 million km2, 0.94 million km2, (7.4%) less than the 10 year average of 12.83 million km2.

- Extent is 2nd lowest in the 45 year satellite record

- Extent is  1,226 k LESS than 2002
- Extent is  932 k LESS than 2017
- Extent is  1,511 k LESS than 2018
- Extent is  715 k LESS than 2022
- Extent is  621 k MORE than 2023
- Extent is  1,808 k LESS than the 1980's Average
- Extent is  1,982 k LESS than the 2010's Average

- On average  81.0% of ice gain from minimum to maximum done, and 65 days to maximum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Ant1)

Average remaining freeze (of the last 10 years) would produce a maximum in Sept 2023 of 16.98 million km2, 0.00 million km2 below the 2023 record low maximum of 16.99 million km2, which would be 1st lowest in the satellite record.
In 10 of the years 2006 to 2023, gain from now is low enough to produce a new record low maximum

DJ, Simply means above average melt/break down of Antarctica glaciers as well...

North Pole/Arctic; https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4145.550.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4145.550.html#lastPost ;

JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  7,797,546 KM2 as at 14-Jul-2024

- Extent loss on this day 161k, 49 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 112k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 6,614 k, which is 280 k, 4.4% more than the 10 year average of 6,334 k.

- Extent is 8th lowest in the 45 year satellite record.

- Extent is  316 k LESS than 2023,
- Extent is  397 k LESS than 2022,
- Extent is  413 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  681 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  226 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  186 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  121 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  33 k LESS than the 2010's Average
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On average 64.3% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 61 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2024 of 4.28 million KM2, 1.10 million KM2 above the September 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million KM2, and 9th lowest in the satellite record

DJ, lots of uncertainty on Arctic perspectives. https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/both-paris-agreement-thresholds-clearly-crossed.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/both-paris-agreement-thresholds-clearly-crossed.html ;

The NASA temperature anomaly vs. 1904-1924 shows that the temperature has been above 1.5°C for the past twelve months, as illustrated by the image below. The red line shows the trend (one-year Lowess Smoothing) associated with the rapid recent rise.

The above image, from an earlier post, shows that the February 2024 temperature was 1.76°C above 1885-1915, potentially 2.75°C above pre-industrial (bright yellow inset right). The image was created by Sam Carana for Arctic-news.blogspot.com with an April 2024 data.giss.nasa.gov screenshot. The red line (6 months Lowess smoothing) highlights the steep rise that had already taken place by then.

Global temperatures, Sea Surface Temperature, monthly temperatures etc. all are very abnormal. 

It is more than likely climate collapse is linked to increase of pandemics. There is a correlation. 

Increase of climate collapse-already on its way-very likely means an increase of pandemic risks. The global inaction on these risks makes more pandemics more than likely. We may be just at the start of pandemic escalation...
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DJ, A few recent posts from https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4176.650.html or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4176.650.html ;

Re: The 2024 melting season
« Reply #653 on: July 16, 2024, 03:02:07 PM »
For those of you who aren't following the CO2 thread here, just a heads-up that the past few weeks have been ridiculous.

CO2 levels usually start to drop in late May or early June, towards the yearly minimum in September/October. That's just not happening this year. We're still at the same levels now that we've seen in April-June.

I don't know how this will affect the melting season, but it can't be good.
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Re: The 2024 melting season
« Reply #654 on: July 16, 2024, 06:18:40 PM »
I usually dip into CO2 on and off during the year.  But mostly I look around Jan/Feb time to see what the combined number will be.

The more interesting thing is the annual average growth per decade which is in the list below.

   Decade end_____Decadal annual average growth
   1968      0.8   
   1978      1.2   
   1988      1.7   
   1998      1.5   
   2008      1.9   
   2018      2.3   


However for 2019 onwards, each year is either 2.4 or 2.5 for average growth with the trend moving up towards 2.5.  Which will push us much further to 440ppm by the end of this decade.

Essentially we should be expecting completely crazy metrics with this level of growth.  By the end of the 2019-2028 decade we should have added 24ppm-25ppm to the baseline of 2018.

Point to note, Mt Pinatubo is really visible here.

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Which, in relevance to this thread, means more melt for less input.
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Re: The 2024 melting season
« Reply #655 on: July 17, 2024, 12:29:48 PM »
the drop in global sea ice extent is looking almost unbelievable at the moment  .......is it linked to the  Antarctic Stratospheric warming event  ?    ......ground levels temps are just average ....

https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/t2_daily/?dm_id=antarctic



Why does it matter ? 

-In my view climate collapse=pandemics...
-Also on the sea-ice forum people try to get a view on a very complex matter (and some come to very alarming conclusions)
-One of the major questions is "the weight" single events may have on the "big picture"-can a hurricane bringing warm air/rain to the Arctic cause a collapse of Arctic (sea)ice ? 
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Normalizing insanity ! Once-in-a-hundred-year-rains" every week...and present it as "fun";
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rYU0HtJkhI or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rYU0HtJkhI 

DJ, floodings in NL last week...

https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/both-paris-agreement-thresholds-clearly-crossed.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/both-paris-agreement-thresholds-clearly-crossed.html 

NW Europe did not see muc h extreme heat. However some nights may have been quite warm-so average temperatures still could be high...(but people forget night temperatures are part of the statistics). 

High SeaSurfaceTemperatures (SST)=more evaporation=more rain...

So far the Atlantic Hurricane Season did not yet explode...there are other indicators that are alarming. CO2 in the atmosphere is supposed to go down this time of year...but it is going up...

MultiYearIce (MYI) in the Arctic may be getting record low...
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4145.550.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4145.550.html#lastPost ;
Re: 2024 Arctic Sea ice area & extent data
« Reply #598 on: July 22, 2024, 06:01:45 PM »
NSIDC 1-day area is currently 2nd lowest for the date.  The differences between the top 4 years are again very small on this date but will grow larger in the next few days as 2020 plummets and 2019 slows down. 

NSIDC compactness is still record low for the date.

DJ, South Pole https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1759.4550.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1759.4550.html#lastPost ;
Projections. (Table NSIDC Antarctic-Area-1)
Average remaining freeze (of the last 10 years) would produce a maximum in Sept 2024 of 13.24 million km2, 0.13 million km2 below the 2023 record low maximum of 13.37 million km2, and would be 1st lowest in the 46 year satellite record

The possibility of a new record low maximum certainly exists. In 10 of the 18 years 2006 to 2023, sea ice area gain from now is low enough to produce a new record low sea ice area maximum

Like with ongoing pandemics human action now may give results much later...Monitoring-increase of it to deal with most major risks-is what we should do NOW !

Of course we have to stop massive airtravel, car use, meat consumption...There is NO ROOM for learning that the hard way...we are killing ourselves !

Wars are even more criminal in the perspective of other crises getting much worse high speed...

We live in the age of insanity ! Crazy is the new normal !
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https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/high-wet-bulb-globe-temperature-danger.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/07/high-wet-bulb-globe-temperature-danger.html ;

Wet Bulb Globe Temperature (WBGT) takes into account the effect of temperature, RH (relative humidity), wind speed, and solar radiation. WBGT is used by weather.gov to warn about extreme heat stress when in direct sunlight, as is forecast to occur in grey areas on July 26, 2024 at 21 UTC. 

The inset shows that a temperature of 113°F or 45°C and a Wet Bulb Globe Temperature of 95°F or 35°C is forecast for a location 8 miles south of Parker, Arizona, on July 26, 2024 at 21 UTC. 

The above map illustrates that extreme heat stress can occur at higher latitudes, e.g. the grey areas in the north of the United States that extend into Canada. The danger occurs where high temperatures coincide with high relative humidity. 

The image below further illustrates the danger. It shows that a 'feel like' temperature of 54°C (129.1°F) and a wet bulb temperature of 31°C (87.7°F) hit an area west of Wuhan, China, on July 23, 2024 at 10:00 UTC (green circle). 

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As temperatures and humidity levels keep rising, a tipping point can be reached where the wind factor no longer matters, in the sense that wind can no longer provide cooling. The human body can cool itself by sweating, which has a physiological limit that was long described as a 35°C wet-bulb temperature. Once the wet-bulb temperature reaches 35°C, one can no longer lose heat by perspiration, even in strong wind, but instead one will start gaining heat from the air beyond a wet-bulb temperature of 35°C.

Accordingly, a 35°C wet-bulb temperature (equal to 95°F at 100% humidity or 115°F at 50% humidity) was long seen as the theoretical limit, the maximum a human could endure.

2020 study (by Raymond et al.) warns that this limit could be regularly exceeded with a temperature rise of less than 2.5°C (compared to pre-industrial). A 2018 study (by Strona & Bradshaw) indicates that most life on Earth will disappear with a 5°C rise. Humans, who depend for their survival on many other species, will likely go extinct with a 3°C rise, as illustrated by the image below, from an earlier post.
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2022 study (by Vecellio et al.) finds that the actual limit is lower — about 31°C wet-bulb or 87°F at 100% humidity — even for young, healthy subjects. The temperature for older populations, who are more vulnerable to heat, is likely even lower. In practice the limit will typically be lower and depending on circumstances could be as low as a wet-bulb temperature of 25°C.

Climate change danger assessment

The image below, earlier discussed here, expands risk assessment beyond its typical definition as the product of the severity of impact and probability of occurrence, by adding a third dimension: timescale, in particular imminence.



Imminence alone could make that the danger constituted by rising temperatures needs to be acted upon immediately, comprehensively and effectively. While questions may remain regarding probability, severity and timescale of the dangers associated with climate change, the precautionary principle should prevail and this should prompt for action, i.e. comprehensive and effective action to reduce damage and improve the situation is imperative and must be taken as soon as possible.
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Rapidly rising temperatures constitute tipping points in several ways

Firstly, there is a biological threshold beyond which rising temperatures become lethal for humans, as discussed above.

Secondly, as Gerardo Ceballos describes in the video below and in a 2017 analysis, there is a biological tipping point that threatens annihilation of species via the ongoing sixth mass extinction. Researchers such as Gerardo Ceballos (2020)Kevin Burke (2018) and Ignation Quintero (2013) have for years warned that mammals and vertebrates cannot keep up with the rapid rise in temperature. Humans are classified as vertebrate mammals, indicating that we will not avoid the fate of extinction, Guy McPherson (2020) adds.

Thirdly, there are further tipping points, e.g. social-political ones. On the one hand, it would be good if people became more aware, as this could prompt more people into supporting the necessary action. On the other hand, as temperatures keep rising, there is also a danger that panic will break out, dictators will grab power and civilization as we know it will collapse abruptly, as warned about earlier, e.g. in 2007.
DJ, Climate collapse means pandemics, food/watercrises, socio-economic collapse...
But it is ignored "to save short term profits"....

So we will learn in a very hard way....

Do we really need to see thousends of people die in an area that became to impossible for human life ? We soon may see that kind of "wet-bulbe" massive mammal overheating disasters...(but even that will be called a "managable incident"...). 

Crazy is the new normal !
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