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https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/08/22/weather-forecast-storm-lilian-ireland-hurricane-ernesto/ or https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/08/22/weather-forecast-storm-lilian-ireland-hurricane-ernesto/ ;
The high tides was caused by a combination of the remnants of Hurricane Ernesto and very high tides which caused difficult conditions for motorists and pedestrians.
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Storm Lilian was named by the UK Met Office, which anticipates challenging conditions in England, Scotland and Wales.

It follows Storm Kathleen, which struck in April. The arrival at the 12th named storm in the season which runs from September to September marks the furthest through the list of names the western European storm naming group has got since the system’s introduction in 2015.


DJ, Remnants of Ernesto mixed up with a depression west of Ireland creating a new storm expected to move towards Norway...(there may be a growing risk hurricanes go in circles-from Africa to the US and then via the Canada coast back to NW Europe...some of them may end up near West Africa and go for a second round ?)
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https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/08/carbon-dioxide-growing-rapidly.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/08/carbon-dioxide-growing-rapidly.html 

DJ, Just like in wars, pandemics also in climate the dominant "strategy" is to buy time, kick the can down the road...

Creative statistics going for a "fitting" baseline for pre-industrial can keep the lie alive of "being under 1,5C+" while since 1700-1750 pre-industrial base line we may be 2,75C+....

In Excess Deaths statistics "re-define" "Excess" and -in statistics- there are no excess deaths...Even with both pandemics and heat waves resulting in much higher deaths...

Self-amplifying feedbacks and crossing of tipping points, as well as further developments (such a as loss of the aerosol masking effect and sunspots reaching a peak) could all contribute to cause a temperature rise from pre-industrial of over 10°C, in the process causing the clouds tipping point to get crossed that can push up the temperature rise by a further 8°C.

Altogether, the temperature rise may exceed 18°C from pre-industrial by 2026, as illustrated by the image on the right.

DJ, CoViD, H5N1, Mpox may be very widespread both in human and non-human hosts...Diseases flying across the globe for free...

The disasters may be that large all "politics" can think of is war as distraction...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyt7VzMfbzc  or  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyt7VzMfbzc ;

200 Meter Tall Megatsunami In Greenland Produced Unusual Effects

A link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickson_Fjord#History  or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickson_Fjord#History ;
In September 2023, a megatsunami in Dickson Fjord sent seismic waves detected around the world. One seismic signal was detected from the rockslide which created the tsunami, and another very long-period signal from a week-long oscillating seiche wave between the shores of the fjord that was triggered by the tsunami.[5]
DJ, Melting permafrost is causing more and more landslides resulting in large-but most local-tsunami's. In polar regions, mountains, often ice is a glue keeping rock-pieces glued together...Melt may bring collapse of parts of a mountain/fjord-with the collapse pulling more land with it...

The tsunami itself may even result in more melt/landslide with waves -sometimes 200 meters high !- (but very local in a mountain lake or a small piece of water) melting snow/ice...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240809135909.htm  or https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/08/240809135909.htm ;
In September 2023, a megatsunami in remote eastern Greenland sent seismic waves around the world, piquing the interest of the global research community.

DJ; Anton Petrov-maker of the YT video-claims there is an increase of these kinds of landslides. Seismic data and satellite pictures detect the results of such tsunamis. 

DJ-My view; In theory even larger landslides/bigger tsunamis are possible. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland#Disappearance  or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland#Disappearance;
A recent hypothesis suggests that around 6200 BCE much of the remaining coastal land was flooded by a tsunami caused by a submarine landslide off the coast of Norway known as the Storegga Slide. This suggests "that the Storegga Slide tsunami would have had a catastrophic impact on the contemporary coastal Mesolithic population ... Britain finally became separated from the continent and in cultural terms, the Mesolithic there goes its own way."[14] It is estimated that up to a quarter of the Mesolithic population of Britain lost their lives.[15

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storegga_Slide  or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storegga_Slide ;
The three Storegga Slides (NorwegianStoreggaraset) are amongst the largest known submarine landslides. They occurred at the edge of Norway's continental shelf in the Norwegian Sea, approximately 6225–6170 BCE. The collapse involved an estimated 290 km (180 mi) length of coastal shelf, with a total volume of 3,500 km3 (840 cu mi) of debris, which caused a paleotsunami in the North Atlantic Ocean.

DJ, So underwater landslides can result in mega-tsunamis. Permafrost underwater "hills" collapsing due to warmer ocean water could result in such tsunamis. 
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Svalbard, a Norwegian archipelago in the Arctic Ocean, has been severely affected by a prolonged heat wave during the summer of 2024.
Data from the Norwegian Centre for Data Service show that four observation stations in Svalbard recorded record-high average summer temperatures, with anomalies up to 3.0°C above normal. 
Svalbard Airport, located at 78.14°N, recorded an average summer temperature of 8.5°C, setting a new record for the third year in a row. August 2024 was particularly extreme, with an unprecedented average temperature of 11.0°C, illustrating the severity of the heatwave.
This image, acquired on 28 August 2024, documents the effects of the heatwave, revealing large areas of glaciers around Longyearbyen without snow cover. The absence of snow accelerates the rapid melting of the ice, resulting in the massive sediment discharge seen in the island's coastal areas.
Our satellites play a crucial role in monitoring glaciers around the world, providing key information to help researchers evaluate the impact of climate change on the cryosphere.

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https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/09/cataclysmic-alignment-threatens-climate-catastrophe.html or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/09/cataclysmic-alignment-threatens-climate-catastrophe.html;

In a cataclysmic alignment, the next El Niño threatens to develop while sunspots are higher than expected. Sunspots are expected to reach a peak in the current cycle in July 2025.
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High sunspots could line up with an upcoming El Niño and with further forcing by short-term variables, in a cataclysmic alignment that could push up the temperature enough to cause dramatic sea ice loss in the Arctic, resulting in runaway temperature rise by 2026.
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This - in combination with further events, developments and short-term variables - could constitute a cataclysmic alignment that could result in runaway temperature rise by 2026, as an earlier post concluded. Moving from the bottom of a La Niña to the peak of a strong El Niño could make a difference of more than 0.5°C. Sunspots could make a difference of more than 0.25°C. Further forcing could be added by additional events, e.g. submarine volcano eruptions could add huge amounts of water vapor to the atmosphere.

DJ, So more sunspots and a strong-new-el nino could push temperatures up 0,75C on top of the 2,75C rise since 1700-1750....

"Politicians-for-sale" may put the base-line for pre-industrial at 2000 to stick to their lie of "still under 1,5C" ....

Climate & pandemics are very interlinked and both getting much worse much faster....The present "politicians" go for denial...NOT solutions...

DJ-I again am NOT any kind of expert; but ignoring problems most of the time results in problems getting worse...Since both climate and pandemics are global issues of fundamental importance-and politics goes for war-human survival is at risk...
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/6/record-summer-temperatures-set-world-on-course-for-hottest-year-ever  or https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/6/record-summer-temperatures-set-world-on-course-for-hottest-year-ever ;

6 Sep 2024

Summer temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere were the highest ever recorded, making it likely that this year could emerge as Earth’s hottest ever, according to the European Union’s climate change monitor.

Data from the Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S) on Friday followed a season of heatwaves around the world that scientists said were intensified by human-driven climate change.

“During the past three months of 2024, the globe has experienced the hottest June and August, the hottest day on record, and the hottest boreal summer on record,” said Samantha Burgess, deputy director of C3S.

“This string of record temperatures is increasing the likelihood of 2024 being the hottest year on record,” she said.

Heat was exacerbated in 2023 and early 2024 by the cyclical weather phenomenon El Nino, which warms the surface waters in the eastern Pacific Ocean, though C3S scientist Julien Nicolas said its effects were not as strong as they sometimes are.

Meanwhile, the contrary cyclical cooling phenomenon, known as La Nina, has not yet started, he said.

Conversely, moving against the global trend, regions such as Alaska, the eastern United States, parts of South America, Pakistan and the Sahel desert zone in northern Africa had lower-than-average temperatures in August, said the report.

The planet’s changing climate continued to drive disasters this summer.

In Sudan, flooding from heavy rains last month affected more than 300,000 people and brought cholera to the war-torn country.

Elsewhere, scientists confirmed climate change intensified Typhoon Gaemi, which tore through the Philippines, Taiwan and China in July, killing more than 100 people.

Climate targets missed

Human-caused greenhouse gas emissions are warming the planet, raising the likelihood and intensity of climate disasters such as droughts, fires and floods.

“The temperature-related extreme events witnessed this summer will only become more intense, with more devastating consequences for people and the planet unless we take urgent action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions,” said Burgess.

Governments have targets to reduce their countries’ emissions to try to keep the rise below 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7 degrees Fahrenheit) under the 2015 Paris climate agreement. But the United Nations has said the world is not on track to meet the long-term goals of that deal.

Global temperatures in June and August broke through the level of 1.5C above the pre-industrial average – a key threshold for limiting the worst effects of climate change.

Scientists will not consider that threshold to be definitively passed until it has been observed being breached over several decades.

The average level of warming is currently about 1.2C, according to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).

But C3S said the 1.5C level has been passed during 13 of the past 14 months.

In August, the average global temperature at Earth’s surface was 16.82C (62.28F), according to the European monitor, which draws on billions of measurements from satellites, ships, aircraft and weather stations.

DJ, Politics/experts-for-sale go for denial by lifting the pre-industrial treshold...Why not go for 2000 as "pre-industrial" ? 

North Pole;https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4145.750.html#lastPost  or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4145.750.html#lastPost ;
Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2024 of 4.03 million KM2, 0.85 million KM2 above the September 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million KM2, and 5th lowest in the satellite record

and South Pole; https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1759.4650.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1759.4650.html#lastPost ; Projections. (Table JAXA-Ant1)

Average remaining freeze (of the last 10 years) would produce a maximum in Sept 2023 of 17.27 million km2, 0.28 million km2 above the 2023 record low maximum of 16.99 million km2, which would be 2nd lowest in the satellite record.
In only 2 of the 18 years from 2006 to 2023 is gain from now low enough to produce a new record low maximum

DJ, Polar ice is cooling the planet...

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4112.0.html#lastPost  or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4112.0.html#lastPost;

Summary for SMB year 2023-2024
Climate scientists tell us that precipitation is increasing, though with more rain on snow events.
They also tell us that melt is increasing, which the melt graph also shows.

This year has that despite very high melt, the SMB gain is close to the long-term average, which arithmetic says must mean precipitation was above the average.

In the longer-term AGW means a warmer, wetter Greenland, and climate science forecasts that due to higher melt and increased run-off the increase in precipitation is not enough to prevent annual SMB gains gradually decreasing in the years to come. (see graph next post)

The SMB gain of 368 GT plus GIS annual mass loss of around 250 GT tells us annual mass loss from run-off plus calving plus melting of marine-terminating glaciers and basal melt is probaly at least 600 GT per annum.

DJ...see next post
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https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/09/water-vapor-feedback.html  or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/09/water-vapor-feedback.html ;

Earth's Energy Imbalance is now about four times as high as it was a decade ago, as illustrated by the above image, by Eliot Jacobson. As a result, feedbacks are starting to kick in with greater ferocity.

Water vapor feedback

One such feedback is the water vapor feedback. The temperature rise results in more evaporation, i.e. more water vapor and heat will enter the atmosphere, much of which will return to the surface in the form of precipitation, but some will remain in the atmosphere, as there will be 7% more water vapor for every 1°C warming. As illustrated by the image below, created with NOAA data, surface precipitable water was at 27.181 kg/m² in August 2024, a record high for this month.
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How much more water vapor currently is in the atmosphere compared to pre-industrial depends on how much the temperature has risen since pre-industrial. The February 2024 temperature was 1.76°C above 1885-1915, which could be as much as 2.75°C above the pre-industrial temperature. A 2.75°C rise corresponds with almost ⅕ more water vapor in the atmosphere.

More ocean heat and water vapor moving to Arctic

The temperature rise also comes with stronger wind. An earlier post points at a study that found increased kinetic energy in about 76% of the upper 2,000 meters of global oceans, as a result of intensification of surface winds since the 1990s.

Stronger wind speeds up ocean currents, enabling more ocean heat to move to the Arctic, while stronger wind also enables more water vapor to move to the Arctic and more rain to fall closer to the Arctic, along the path of prevailing ocean currents and wind patterns. As a result, both heat and water vapor will increase in the Arctic. 
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High levels of methane are already present over the Arctic and the water vapor feedback makes things worse. Additionally, more ocean heat entering the Arctic Ocean can destabilize hydrates at the seafloor and cause methane eruptions, resulting in huge amounts of methane entering the atmosphere over the Arctic.  
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As the Jet Stream gets more deformed due to polar amplification of the temperature rise, this can at times result in strong winds speeding up ocean currents and wind patterns that carry heat toward the Poles and.
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At times, part of this accumulated energy can, in the form of ocean heat and precipitable water, be abruptly transported to the Arctic, along the path of prevailing ocean currents and wind patterns boosted by stronger wind and storms. This is illustrated by the above image that shows unusually high amounts of precipitable water recorded near the North Pole on September 1, 2024, at 04 UTC (20 kg/m² at the green circle). This can be further facilitated by the formation of a freshwater lid at the surface of the North Atlantic that enables more ocean heat to travel underneath this lid to the Arctic Ocean. 
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For more than 14 consecutive months the temperature anomaly has been high, i.e. about 0.8°C (± 0.3°C) above the 1991-2020 average and much more when compared to a pre-industrial base, with little or no sign of a return to earlier temperatures. On September 2, 2024, the temperature was 0.8°C above 1991-2020, the highest anomaly on record for that day of the year.
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Global sea ice extent was 21.04 million km² on September 4, 2024, a record low for the time of year, as feedbacks start kicking in with greater ferocity, including less albedo, latent heat buffer and emissivity, more water vapor, less lower clouds, Jet Stream changes, more emissions, lightning and forest fires, stronger rainfall and heatwaves causing more run-off of heat, and stronger storms that can push ocean heat toward the poles, all contributing to accelerate sea ice loss and the temperature rise, as discussed in earlier posts such as this one
DJ; Climate collapse=pandemics....and we are making both much worse...NOT STOPPING IT ! The only thing "under control" is information...
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DJ, Last week we did see rain in the Sahara-desert in Africa...also a depression kept moving around in that area...

https://www.estofex.org/  or https://www.estofex.org/ ;

A level 2 was issued across Algeria mainly for damaging wind gusts and large hail.
 N Africa ...

A subtle frontal boundary is forecast to initiate scattered to widespread storms as it crosses the region. Over the past days, substantial low-level moisture has advected quite far inland with multiple rounds of (severe) storms. Saturday will be no exception. The main threat will be severe wind gusts with fast-moving storms developing in unidirectional hodograph with 0-6 km bulk shear between 15 and 25 m/s. The strongest shear is forecast towards the S with ICON-EU and ECMWF painting a serious setup with 0-6/0-3 km bulk shear approaching 25 m/s and forecast hodographs suggestive of environment conducive to both intense supercells and bow-echoes. Such scenario warrants a Lvl 2 for multiple swaths of severe wind gusts and large hail.

DJ, Rain/storm is supposed to move south from the Sahara over the West African rain forests...into the Atlantic-to create hurricanes...This time a depression moved north instead of (following Earth rotation) west..now also bringing lots of rain in SW Europe...(mixed with Sahara-sand)...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Atlantic_hurricane_season#Potential_Tropical_Cyclone_Six  or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Atlantic_hurricane_season#Potential_Tropical_Cyclone_Six 
DJ Hurricane "Francine" will reach the south of the US coming week...

A very strong hurricane season was expected...so we now only being at "F" -6th storm this late may be seen as -for now-good news...https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/  or https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ more is on its way...

DJ-"Storms" etc are in itself "normal". The climate collapse aspect may be in more and stronger storms also at places where they are not expected...SE Morocco-Algeria desert is one of those unexpected places...In Sudan (a.o.) rain did result in a dam breaking not far from Port Sudan...

Climate disasters on top of western made wars...
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https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/09/will-we-be-alive-in-2025-who-will-survive-2025.html  or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/09/will-we-be-alive-in-2025-who-will-survive-2025.html ;

Will we be alive in 2025, who will survive, 2025?


The above image, created with monthly mean global temperature anomalies by LOTI Land+Ocean NASA/GISS/GISTEMP v4 data while using a 1903-1924 base, has a trend added based on Jan 2016-Aug 2024 data. The image also shows that anomalies could be 0.99°C higher when using a more genuine pre-industrial base.

The image below featured in an earlier post and was created with an image from the NASA website while using an 1885-1915 base, illustrating the calculation behind this 0.99°C. More details are here


The image below, from an earlier post and created with an image from the NASA website while using a 1903-1924 base, confirms that the monthly temperature anomaly through August 2024 has been more than 1.5°C above this base for each of the past consecutive 14 months. The post adds that anomalies will be even higher when compared to a pre-industrial base. The red line shows a trend produced by the NASA website (2-year Lowess Smoothing).


Potential causes for such a rapid temperature rise include a cataclysmic alignment of the temperature peak of the next El Niño coinciding with a peak in sunspots expected to occur in July 2025. Further potential causes are discussed in this earlier post.

Dangers associated with high temperatures are discussed in this earlier post. A 2018 study (by Strona & Bradshaw) indicates that most life on Earth will disappear with a 5°C rise. Humans, who depend for their survival on many other species, will likely go extinct with a 3°C rise, as illustrated by the image below, from an earlier post.



DJ, Increase of glonal temperature-in general-will result in more -most-rain...Stronger storms but also a jet-stream "going wild"...So YES we may even end up with snow in the tropics and idiots claiming it is an indication for the coming of a new ice-age...

In Vietnam, Nigeria, Morocco, Sudan floods did kill dozens..
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DJ-This weekend Central Europe may get the amount of rain it -in a "normal year" gets in 4 months...

https://www.estofex.org/  or https://www.estofex.org/ ;
A level 2 was issued across NE Czechia, NW Slovakia and S-central Poland mainly for heavy convective rainfall.

A level 1 was issued across NW Austria, E Czechia and Slovakia mainly for heavy convective rainfall.

A level 2 was issued across Moldova, Ukraine and E Poland mainly for heavy rainfall and tornadoes.

A level 1 was issued across Romania and NE Poland mainly for heavy rainfall and to the lesser degree for tornadoes.

DISCUSSION

Deep low pressure system continues to affect much of central Europe with very heavy rainfall and also severe wind gusts.

***NOTE*** This forecast only covers the contribution of CONVECTION to severe weather. Non-convective rainfall and non-convective wind gusts are NOT covered. Please refer to the warnings of the national weather institutes for more information on these hazards.


Also; https://www.dw.com/en/europe-extreme-weather-warnings-in-germany-poland-austria/a-70206609 or https://www.dw.com/en/europe-extreme-weather-warnings-in-germany-poland-austria/a-70206609 ;

Large parts of central Europe are bracing for potential flooding this weekend with heavy rainfall expected across parts of Poland, Germany, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Austria.

Up to 400 mm of rain is expected to fall on the highlands on the Polish-Czech border within just 72 hours, according to local meteorological stations, with consequences for surrounding regions and nearby towns and cities.

In Poland, authorities have issued their highest weather warning in the southern voivodeships — or regions — of Lower Silesia, Opole and Silesia, while the mayor of the city of Wroclaw has convened a crisis committee. In 1997, a third of Wroclaw was flooded when the River Oder burst its banks.

"There is a realistic risk of local inundations from Friday to Sunday," said the Polish weather service.


DJ, A.o. Weather Watcher on YouTube doing a very good job by warning in time...

Lots of places get extreme weather. However if on top of the extreme weather there is also a lot of (longer term)  economic damage the disaster even gets larger...

The extreme rain will be in higher laying area's-wich will translate into high river levels-most likely a.o. the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danube or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danube ...so flooding could go on down river for over a week...
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https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/024234.shtml?cone#contents or https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/024234.shtml?cone#contents 
"Gordon" may stay over the Atlantic-may not even become a hurricane...however https://www.ventusky.com/?p=35;-9;1&l=gust or https://www.ventusky.com/?p=35;-9;1&l=gust may indicate "Gordon" can become part of a list of depressions moving hot air to the Arctic...
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SE Asia dealing with typhones, South America with wild fires...
DJ-Climate collapse IS translating into all kinds of crazy weather...from extreme drought-in areas not used to it ...to flooding in the Sahara...

We ARE in a global climate disaster..."politics" again going for denial, kicking cans down the road-now have to face a brutal reality...

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4176.1100.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4176.1100.html#lastPost A discussion on if the Arctic melting summer season ended...

DJ-With lots of storms moving north it may be hard to predict...the lowest (sea)ice level tends to move towards october...Also ice/snow on Greenland, Canada, Siberia  may face "bizarre months"...Possibly even "hot days" in november, december...

AGAIN-Polar ice is cooling the planet...the less ice the hotter the planet gets...
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DJ, Heavy rain & storm -in itself- is NOT new...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_European_windstorm_season#Storm_Boris  or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_European_windstorm_season#Storm_Boris ;
Parts of the Czech Republic particularly near Vienna are under a red rain warning where extreme impacts from rainfall such as flooding, flash floods and landslides are likely. This is also the same for south-west Poland.[18] On September 14, 2024, red alerts, indicating "intense meteorological phenomena", were issued in Austria, the Czech Republic, Germany, Poland and Slovakia.[19]


and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lO81y0vFvs or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lO81y0vFvs DW;

Central Europe in grips of worst flooding in decades | DW News


DJ, some factors;
-More people living in areas at risk of flooding...So compared to other extreme weather events in the last decades more people/houses/bussinesses at risk
-But also the amount of rain/snow (for this time of year) is unprecedented...A few days ago extreme drought-30C+-wildfires...gave way to extreme rain and cold weather...

Very likely already 10+ people killed. Most of the damage-from SE Germany to Romania-however will come in the coming days...

Rivers with extreme level of water still have to come together...Inn ends up in Danube...both allready at record levels...so the water may have no place to go...

Damage to infra-structure, economy, could be "extreme"...
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DJ; "reality is complex"....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO_ZHg5OCAg  or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO_ZHg5OCAg ; "Just have a think"-UK;

Arctic Sea Ice minimum 2024. Three degrees Celsius warming now baked in!

Arctic Sea ice reaches it's minimum extent each year around the middle of September. This year is one of the lowest in recorded history. Ocean temperatures have been so 'off the charts' in 2023 and 2024 that scientists fear those waters have reached their capacity to mop up after us humans and are now starting to release that energy. On our current trajectory, by 2100, our planet will reach a temperature not seen for 3 MILLION years!. So...what's the plan???

DJ; A much more radical view; https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/09/will-we-be-alive-in-2025-who-will-survive-2025.html  or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2024/09/will-we-be-alive-in-2025-who-will-survive-2025.html 

DJ-I am NOT any kind of "expert" -just trying to make some sense...
https://www.dw.com/en/extreme-weather/t-19020379 or https://www.dw.com/en/extreme-weather/t-19020379 ...

YES all of history we did have storms, extreme weather...
also YES climate collapse is worsening extremes....

Part of the question is "how to deal with it". The floods now ongoing in Central Europe are in a very widespread system of connected waterways...Via canals some of the extreme rain/melting snow-far away from the Rhine-river-system-may be "pumped" into that system...

So part of the flooding in Central Europe will be avoided by the push on some buttons in some control rooms....Water-in a normal time flowing via the Danube to the Black Sea-may now end up -via the Rhine-in the North Sea...

High pressure areas over Western Europe and Russia block a low pressure area over Central Europe. That "low" contains extreme amounts of rain because the Mediterranean Sea is record warm...

Extreme drought in some areas are unable to take up the (amounts of) rain...the ground because of drought turned into almost concrete...

Since weather is not 100% predictable one has to stay "within safe limits" in sending extreme levels of water in watersystems with "some room left"...If extra water ends up in the Rhine system-and we get lots of rain over Germany-than we may end up "transporting a disaster"....

Still compared to Nigeria, Sudan, Myanmar etc. the European system of canals, reservoirs etc. can "limit damage"....

Part of the "extreme weather" is also in temperatures dropping from hot to cold within a week...Snow above 1500 metres this early...with lots of melt expected soon...
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Just like pandemics in climate disasters poverty decreases chances...Increases risks...

If one wants to solve health crises, climate disasters-invest in education, family planning, healthcare...NOT in wars !
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Even if climate destruction now is "beyond repair" it is our duty to limit (further) damage the best we can...Even the best climate scientists can not oversee all of the very complex interactions...
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