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Zero Hedge/Epoch Times publish a lot of anti-science...sometimes however; 

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/link-between-blood-types-and-risks-covid-19-cancer-and-other-diseases or https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/link-between-blood-types-and-risks-covid-19-cancer-and-other-diseases ;

Blood types play a crucial role not only in ensuring safe blood transfusions but also in influencing various health risks. Numerous studies suggest that genetically determined blood types may increase susceptibility to both infectious and non-infectious diseases, including COVID-19, heart disease, and allergies.

Blood is categorized into four main types—A, B, AB, or O—based on the types of antigens present on the surface of red blood cells. Antigens are proteins found on red blood cells that trigger an immune response when encountering unfamiliar substances, such as certain bacteria, Dr. Douglas Eric Guggenheim, a physician at the Abramson Cancer Center at the University of Pennsylvania Hospital, explained in a 2020 Penn Medicine article.

Increased Risk of Viral Infections

2023 study from Harvard Medical School, published in the journal Blood, found that the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes COVID-19, preferentially targets type A blood cells.

We show that the part of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein that’s key to enabling the virus to invade cells displays affinity for blood group A cells, and the virus in turn also shows a preferential ability to infect blood group A cells,” Dr. Sean R. Stowell, of Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women’s Hospital, said in a press release.

Type A blood cells are more susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 infection than type O blood cells, Stowell noted. “Among a group of several thousand people, some studies suggest that those with blood group A may be 20 percent more likely to be infected after exposure to SARS-CoV-2 compared with those who have blood group O.” Subsequent experiments indicated that the Omicron variant demonstrated an even stronger preference for infecting type A blood cells than the original virus.

Other recent studies have explored the mechanisms linking blood type to susceptibility to SARS-CoV-2.  One study showed that levels of ACE2 protein, the receptor that the virus binds to for cell entry, were significantly higher in people with type A blood compared to other blood types. The researchers also found that the binding rate of the spike protein to red blood cells was highest in people with type A blood and lowest in people with type O.

Despite these associations, when assessing a person’s risk of severe SARS-CoV-2 infection, factors such as age and pre-existing chronic conditions, like heart disease, tend to have more significant effects on the risk of severe SARS-CoV-2 infection than blood type.

Increased Risk of Cancer

Pancreatic cancer is one of the deadliest types of cancer because it tends to grow quickly, can rapidly invade surrounding organs, and is often difficult to detect early. One study found a statistically significant association between ABO blood group and pancreatic cancer risk. Compared to people with type O blood, those with blood types A, AB, and B had a 32, 51, and 72 percent higher risk of developing pancreatic cancer, respectively.

Additionally, a comprehensive review found that people with type A blood were more susceptible to Helicobacter pylori, a known risk factor for stomach cancer, thus increasing their likelihood of developing the disease. In contrast, type O blood was associated with a lower risk of several cancers, including colorectal, gastric, and breast cancer.

Higher Risk of Other Serious Conditions

Blood type has been found to be associated with an increased risk of other several serious health conditions.

Increased Risk of Heart Disease

Blood type may also be linked to the risk of developing heart disease. A meta-analysis from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, analyzing health data from nearly 90,000 individuals over more than 20 years, found that people with type O blood had the lowest risk of developing coronary heart disease. After adjusting for cardiovascular risk factors, participants with blood types A, B, and AB had an increased risk of coronary heart disease by 6, 15, and 23 percent, respectively, when compared to people with type O blood.

Increased Risk of Allergic Diseases

There is also a clear association between blood type and allergic diseases. A review found that people with type O blood were more prone to allergic rhinitis and asthma compared to those with non-O blood group. In contrast, people with non-O blood types had a higher likelihood of developing atopic dermatitis, with the highest prevalence among those with type B blood, followed by type A.


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part 2, 

Males have more ACE-2 receptors then females...it is also in male reproduction organs. May explain why more men then women die from CoViD. 

H5N1 in part is spread by udders in cattle...udders may have receptors that are vulnerable for the (cattle variant of) H5N1...the same receptors are found in human eyes...

A person that did catch H1N1, H3N2 flu may have better protection when catching H5N1...it may explain why children can get much more ill...

DJ, In preventative healthcare knowing blood-type, anti-bodies in your body after previous infections may result in a "risk profile"...
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Of course when CoViD -in general- may result in less immunity protection in mammals there are tens-of-billions of hosts providing a lot more room for lots of (new) diseases...

So "public health risks" are "growing" (exponential ???).  In preventative healthcare masks, eye protection, ventilation, limiting mass events, travel would all be "wise and welcome"...But they do not bring profits....

Which brings me to the point of a high risk economic system....NL has over 100 million farm animals in a small country with over 18 million people...It is a major reason why Q-fever, mink-CoViD, H5N1 etc. are such a high risk....

IF one is willing to make human survival a priority one has to reduce meat consumption/farm animals...The insane choice is "saving profits"....

Climate collapse and pandemics are interlinked. WE PRODUCE BOTH !

So are humans self-destructive...YES-it looks like it...

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part 3,

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⚠️Worried—This is at least the 3rd COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION incidence of H5N1 without any animal contact. Same with the ICU hospitalized case. This is either human-to-human, or maybe long distance airborne transmission from animal to human somehow without direct contact. Worrisome.
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another H5N1 in a child with no clear exposure. fortunately it is in California where public health seems to be responsive. This virus needs to be tracked assertively...
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Nothing makes me more apprehensive regarding H5N1 than human cases in which the route of infection is unknown. The previously hospitalised patient in Missouri in August. The Canadian teenager with severe illness. Now the child in California.
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Highly pathogenic avian influenza not gone from Europe. Experts have provided clear advice (see for example three-monthly EFSA reports: www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/to...), but governments and poultry sector seem slow to follow up. www.poultryworld.net/health-nutri...
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DJ, again-what is the CoViD history of the H5N1 infected hosts...Did CoViD "open the door" ? 

DJ-I have a limited history background. African Swine Fever (ASF) going global-just before CoViD-19 makes me believe there could be a link....Did "early"CoViD-19 spread as a coinfection in pigs with ASF...did we "miss" it...(did testing for a corona-virus in pigs miss it ? Was the test made for detecting the sort of corona-virus ???) 

From a history timeline;

-2018-2020 global African Swine Fever in (hundreds of) millions of pigs worldwide..
-2019 start of CoViD-19 (was it in Africa ? It was around prior to the Wuhan China outbreak-but military games/october 2019 may have been a spread event). 
-2022 Mpox clade llb goes global
-2024 Mpox clade lb, increase of H5N1 in humans US, SE Asia....

DJ-with a lot of spread not detected...H5N1 will result in human cases also in Europe...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/19/bird-flu-cases-mutation-canada or https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/19/bird-flu-cases-mutation-canada 

DJ, big pharma main goal is profits...however vaccines may offer protection against severe disease-are part of the tool kit...A "kennedy" can further damage public health...

"A healthy immune system" can kill by over reacting...
(DJ-linking to bsky providing complications...)
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https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/11/preprint-enhanced-encephalitic-tropism.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/11/preprint-enhanced-encephalitic-tropism.html ;

Although seasonal flu can occasionally cause neurological symptoms (see 2018's Neuroinfluenza: A Review Of Recently Published Studies) it is relatively rare phenomenon, and usually only results in mild, and transient symptoms. 

The exact mechanisms behind these neurological manifestations are largely unknown, as seasonal flu viruses are generally regarded as being non-neurotropic.

Some researchers have posited that neurological symptoms may be due to neuroinflammation induced by the host's immune responseRegardless of the mechanism, we've seen seen evidence that some influenza viruses - particularly novel flu types - can be more neuroaffective than others.
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 Over the past few years we've seen numerous reports of mammals infected with the 2.3.4.4b subclade of H5Nx experiencing severe, and often fatal, neurological manifestations.  Often, cats and other small mammals were initially suspected being rabid, only to test positive for H5Nx.
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While there are still more questions than answers, over the years we've looked at numerous studies (some more compelling than others) linking severe and/or repeated viral infections (including flu) to a variety of neurological diagnoses later in life. 

In 2011 a study by Boise State biology professor Troy Rohn  appeared in PLOS ONE , which unexpectedly found immunohistochemical evidence of prior influenza A infection in the post-mortem brain tissues of 12 Parkinson’s patients they tested.
Immunolocalization of Influenza A Virus and Markers of Inflammation in the Human Parkinson's Disease Brain
Troy T. Rohn*, Lindsey W. Catlin
The following year, in Revisiting The Influenza-Parkinson’s Link, we looked at another study, conducted by the University of British Columbia, that found a linkage between a past history of severe bouts of influenza and the likelihood of developing Parkinson’s disease later in life.
According to their research, a severe bout of influenza doubled a person’s chances of developing the neurological condition (Severe flu increases risk of Parkinson's: UBC research).

None of this is conclusive, but it does raise serious questions. 

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Whenever we talk about long-term sequelae from influenza, the mysterious decade-long epidemic of Encephalitis Lethargica (EL) that followed the 1918 pandemic always comes to mind.

It is estimated that between 1 and 5 million people were affected with severe Parkinson's-like symptoms.  While some scientists have suggested they may have been linked to the pandemic virus, others have pointed to a post-streptococcal immune response, or believe it was an aberrant autoimmune response, and dismiss the link with the 1918 pandemic.

The cause remains a mystery.

Throughout history, there have been reports of similar outbreaks, including febris comatosa which sparked a severe epidemic in London between 1673 and 1675, and in the wake of the 1889–1890 influenza pandemic, a severe wave of somnolent illnesses (nicknamed the "Nona") appeared.

And more recently, we've seen evidence that SARS-CoV-2 infection can produce persistent neurological manifestations (see CMAJ: Even Mild COVID-19 May Have Long-term Brain Impacts).

While the mild presentation of H5N1 in the United States thus far is reassuring, these viruses continue to mutate and evolve, and what we say about them today may not hold true tomorrow. 

Because with influenza viruses, the only constant is change. 

DJ, Maybe the smaller the host (so also a child) the relative higher the viral load may be-resulting in more severe disease ? And disease may bring long term damage more often. 

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/mysterious-influenza-outbreak-at-army-camp-in-sri-lanka-causes-25-infections-and-500-in-quarantine or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/mysterious-influenza-outbreak-at-army-camp-in-sri-lanka-causes-25-infections-and-500-in-quarantine 

DJ-In this story "flu-like-symptoms"...but testing must have been done and was not able to find a (flu)virus...Was it something else (in food/water ???)
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DJ, Warmer sea water is stronger storms...Some diseases may be spread as dust-from dried up bird droppings-may explain "unclear infection stories"....

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/local-regional-communities-and-organizations/cidrap/1000875-cidrap-climate-change-may-drive-migratory-birds-farther-north-introducing-exotic-tick-borne-diseases or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/local-regional-communities-and-organizations/cidrap/1000875-cidrap-climate-change-may-drive-migratory-birds-farther-north-introducing-exotic-tick-borne-diseases ;


Climate Change Rising temperatures fueled by climate change may allow pathogen-infected ticks attached to birds migrating from tropical to cooler locations to survive at their destinations, researchers reported this week in Frontiers in Cellular and Infection Microbiology.
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Mapping the distributions of tick-carrying bird species during spring migrations highlighted geographic hot spots where songbirds could shed pathogen-carrying ticks on the way to or upon arrival at their breeding grounds, the latter showing average dispersal distances of 421 to 5,003 kilometers (262 to 3,109 miles). Short-distance migrants carried more ticks than their long-distance counterparts.

DJ, Birds going into "new" areas may bring lots of diseases into those areas/animals...new to the region. 

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/columbia-study-warns-that-covid-19-kp-3-1-1-and-xec-variants-are-highly-immune-evasive-than-even-jn-1-or-kp-3  or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/columbia-study-warns-that-covid-19-kp-3-1-1-and-xec-variants-are-highly-immune-evasive-than-even-jn-1-or-kp-3 link to;
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.11.17.624037v1 or https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.11.17.624037v1 ;

KP.3.1.1 is currently the most prevalent subvariant worldwide, while the recombinant subvariant XEC is exhibiting the fastest growth rate.
 Here we measured the in vitro neutralization of KP.3.1.1 and XEC by human sera, monoclonal antibodies, and soluble hACE2 receptor relative to their parental subvariants KP.3 and JN.1. KP.3.1.1 and XEC were slightly more resistant (1.3-1.6-fold) than KP.3 to serum neutralization, and the resultant antigenic map showed that the new subvariants are antigenically similar.

 Both also demonstrated greater resistance to neutralization by select monoclonal antibodies and soluble hACE2, all of which target the top of the viral spike.
 Our findings suggested that upward motion of the receptor-binding domain in spike is partially hindered by the N-terminal-domain mutations found KP.3.1.1 and XEC, thereby allowing these subvariants to better evade serum antibodies that target the viral spike when it is in the up position and thus having a growth advantage in the population.

DJ, New variants of CoViD also interact with older variants/immunity...New variants of CoViD that "work better" with other widespread diseases-like types of flu- may have more chance of spreading. 

Cullers in BC infecting poultry?

DJ, animal-human-animal spread ? 

Also, one reason why "Europe" may have low/no H5N1 human cases is "limited testing in higher risk groups"...(but PPE may be more in use, also higher level of vaccination compared with most of the US ???)...so very likely there may be less/no cases yet...

However with increase of wild bird spread of H5-flu types Europe may see an increase of human H5-infections (H5N5 ???)

DJ-my non-expert view; the "main new pandemic" is decrease of immunity after coViD resulting in more room for other diseases like Mpox, H5/H7 types of flu etc. 

A "testing period" of what diseases mix best-in what hosts-may be the present "pre-crisis". We "may not know what hit us" when a mix of diseases establishes itself...

As always-hope to be very wrong !
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DJ, Completely ignoring recent developments and findings https://www.gld.nl/nieuws/8234336/vogelgriep-duikt-weer-op-is-het-gevaarlijk-voor-de-mens or https://www.gld.nl/nieuws/8234336/vogelgriep-duikt-weer-op-is-het-gevaarlijk-voor-de-mens we get this non-sense....here in NL. 

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/11/usda-california-announces-63-more.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/11/usda-california-announces-63-more.html ;

On Monday, California announced another 41 infected cow herds, bringing their total to 335. Today, just 3 days later, that number has jumped again by 63, bringing them to 398 infected herds and the nation to 612. 

At this point more than 1/3rd of California's (roughly 1,100) herds have tested positive. What we don't know is how many herds that have been tested, have come back negative.

Once again, most states are not aggressively testing bulk milk, or cattle, for the virus. Only 4 non-affected states (Arkansas, Massachusetts, Oklahoma, and Pennsylvania) currently require precautionary bulk milk testing, and most states that have reported outbreaks do not have mandatory testing. 

As a result we continue to fly blind in regards to how many herds are affected, across how many states, and whether those numbers are increasing or declining. 

The USDA also updated the number of backyard and commercial poultry flocks that have been affected, with 13 outbreaks across 7 states (Alaska, California, Illinois, South Dakota, Minnesota, Washington, and Hawaii) added since Monday's update. 

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Since `bird flu season' generally begins in mid October, we've only just begun this year's battle. 

DJ, Mammals DID get H5N1/H5 by eating infected animals...that is how wild animals/cats did get H5-flu-eating most dead birds...some other dead animals...

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/hawaii/1000538-us-hawaii-confirms-avian-flu-detected-in-flock-of-birds-in-central-oahu-h5n1-november-15-2024?view=stream  or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/united-states/h5n1-tracking-af/hawaii/1000538-us-hawaii-confirms-avian-flu-detected-in-flock-of-birds-in-central-oahu-h5n1-november-15-2024?view=stream ;

HONOLULU — The Hawaiʻi State Department of Health (DOH) is investigating human contacts to the flock infected with H5N1. No humans in Hawaiʻi have tested positive for avian influenza at this time.

To date, 54 individuals have been investigated for potential exposure. Of those, 34 were offered testing because of unprotected exposure (meaning without use of adequate personal protective equipment), to the infected birds within the past 10 days, or because they had developed respiratory symptoms within 10 days of contact with the birds.

DJ, Can H5-flu be spread by dried up bird droppings ? Or does the virus NOT survive that long ? Depends also on moisture, temperature...If a host has not much immunity a very low viral load may be able to cause an infection...

Farmers often do all they can to protect farm animals-and their income-from disease. Dried up droppings getting in via ventilation may be one of the few explanations left...

So far most experts believe H5-virus may not survive that long/spread that way...but do not have an alternative explanation. Can filters help to ventilate while keeping the virus out ? 

The role of CoViD in humans and animals-weakening immunity-keeps being ignored...We had Mpox doing strange things, now see H5 doing unseen things...CoViD-immunity-damage (CID ?) may explain that...? 
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Friday, November 22, 2024

CDC Confirms California H5N1 Infection In A Child - FluView 6 Cases Added This Week

Via an emailed statement (below) the CDC today confirmed the results reported earlier this week (see California Dept Public Health: Investigating Presumed Positive H5 Infection In A Child), including identifying the subtype as H5N1.
Including this most recent case, 55 human cases of H5 bird flu have now been reported in the United States during 2024, with 29 in California.  

While the official CDC count has risen to 55, this does not include 4 cases confirmed by state labs but not by the CDC, nor does it include the 2nd, strongly suspected case in Missouri, or the 8 asymptomatic and/or mild cases retrospectively identified by serological testing.

These detections via serological testing strongly suggest some additional cases have gone unidentified. How many, is unknowable.   

It takes more than a little luck for a community case  - one w ithout known contact with livestock or someone who is known to be infected - to be picked up by surveillance.  Most doctors and walk-in clinics only perform rapid flu tests (if they do a test at all), and that generally does not reveal the subtype, only if it is Influenza A positive or not. 

While there may be a heightened index of suspicion in community with outbreaks of H5N1 in cattle or poultry, in most communities mild or moderate cases can be difficult to detect. The Missouri case was only identified a week after the patient was released from the hospital.

Last year, in UK Novel Flu Surveillance: Quantifying TTD, the HKHSA described some of the challenges in detecting or confirming community spread of H5N1 - even in the UK - until after dozens, or even hundreds, of cases had occurred.


And with seasonal flu on the rise, along side other winter respiratory bugs, it is only going to become more difficult to identify novel infections in the community. 

DJ, It only just begun...
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Why a teenager’s bird-flu infection is ringing alarm bells for scientists - Nature

20 November 2024​
By Heidi Ledford

doi: https://doi.org/10.1038/d41586-024-03805-4

In a children’s hospital in Vancouver, Canada, a teenager is in critical condition after being infected with an avian influenza virus that has researchers on high alert.

Viral genome sequences released last week suggest that the teenager is infected with an H5N1 avian influenza virus bearing mutations that might improve its ability to infect the human airway. If true, it could mean that the virus can rapidly evolve to make the jump from birds to humans.

It’s a worrying development but it doesn’t mean that a new pandemic is imminent, says immunologist Scott Hensley at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia. At present, there is no sign that the virus — which is related but not identical to the H5N1 virus infecting US dairy cattle— has been transmitted from the sick adolescent to other people.

“There is reason to be concerned,” he says. “But not reason to totally freak out.”

How did the teenager get infected?

That is unclear. The adolescent did not work or live on a poultry farm, and researchers have found no signs of H5N1 infection in household pets, said Bonnie Henry, a public health officer for the province of British Columbia in Victoria, Canada, during a press conference. “There is a very real possibility that we may not ever determine the source,” Henry said.

Why is this virus so concerning?

The sequencing data suggest that the teenager is infected with a mixture of viruses, all of which are similar to a lineage of H5N1 viruses that is currently infecting poultry and waterfowl in the region. But researchers have homed in on three key differences between those viruses and the teenager’s: two possible mutations that could enhance the virus’s ability to infect human cells, and another that could allow it to replicate more easily in human cells, not just in the cells of its usual avian host.

DJ, https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/11/cdc-confirms-california-h5n1-infection.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/11/cdc-confirms-california-h5n1-infection.html ; The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has confirmed a human infection with avian influenza A(H5N1) (H5N1 bird flu) in a child in California. This is the first reported avian influenza H5 virus infection in a child in the United States. Consistent with previously identified human cases in the United States, the child reportedly experienced mild symptoms and received flu antivirals.

DJ, So in communication it is either "low/no risk" or "freaking out"....bad communication ! 
Several North American cases are now "unclear"...direct contact with an infected animal host "less likely"....


1. Time for a
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update: Flu activity is still low, but it is starting to pick up. In the week ending 11/16, 2.7% of people going for outpatient care have respiratory illness. When that hits 3%, flu season will be considered to have started. The map shows dark green receding. Flu's coming.

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reports that a second child in the US has died of
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(seasonal flu, not
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DJ, Again...immunity damage by CoViD may create lots of room for other diseases...

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MPOX UPDATE Manitoba, Canada reports the first confirmed case of clade lb mpox in the province, which is also the first case of clade I mpox in Canada.

DJ, since (all kinds of) flu is the most widespread disease-earlier infection with H1N1/H3N2 may offer some protection against H5N1... (vaccines very likely also doing some job !) CoViD and flu may mix...
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A pandemic ripping through the animal kingdom can be just as brutal and destabilizing as one hitting humans.

DJ, poultry, cattle, pigs are kept for food production...so a lot of diseases in farm animals is food prices going up...

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H5N1 UPDATE - FLORIDA H5 avian influenza virus detected in St. Petersburg, Florida wastewater

DJ, if you do not control it it will spread...

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-including-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-march-24-2024?view=stream or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/987828-discussion-thread-h5n1-avian-flu-in-us-dairy-cows-including-human-cases-poultry-dairy-workers-march-24-2024?view=stream 

DJ-Also trying to get a basic view...For me (DJ) a major question is what role (previous) CoViD infection is playing in decrease of immunity-opening the door for Mpox, H5-flu etc. 

In lots of stories/news it looks like the CoViD-history is ignored...both in human and animal cases...

Feeding cattle "poultry litter" is not new...may have been practice for decades...with no major problems. 

Did cattle catch CoViD earlier ? Without major symptoms at first...however immunity damage later on ? Or did H5-in poultry litter-turn out to be that "active" it could spread into cattle...? 

What I make of cattle/farm workers is they may have catched H5 via receptors in their eyes while milking cattle (via milking robots). Cow udders have the same receptors as human eyes...So poultry workers may also have catched H5-flu virus via the eyes (???)...

In the US vaccinations (CoViD, Flu etc) is much lower then in most of Europe...(and in Europe often tax payed...in the US one has to pay for it themselves...). 

It may explain some of the differences between Europe and the US...most likely we -in Europe- may also have been lucky so far...

Certainly the NetherLands (NL) -over 100 million farm animals- is high risk...
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Avian influenza detected in California raw milk confirms what we’ve feared. Cross-species spread is advancing. The virus has found new entry points into mammalian systems. This isn’t isolated, it’s evolution in action, and the implications are catastrophic.

DJ...H5 types of flu are very widespread in lots of species-mixing with all kinds of other flu-types...My non-expert view is CoViD immunity damage opened the door to Mpox, H5...
Flu is "just a starter"....soon we may face diseases we never expected to become a risk for humans....

The wrong idea is vaccinating farm workers would do much to stop the spread&mix of H5-flu....Over time H5N1 did evolve towards better spreading in lots of hosts...(because viruses need hosts for reproduction-the more species/hosts the better for the virus...). 

"Politics/strategies" keep running behind realities....the longer one waits the more radical strategies have to become to be of any use. Non Pharma Interventions (masks eye protection), decrease farm animals, as good as stop on travel...Just like climate collapse stopping pandemics has to be a global priority...

https://cop29.az/en/conference/what-is-cop29 was an insulting "joke" on climate...(the "rest" of the world will now compensate climate damage by making "the rich" pay a very high price for energy...). Learning the hard way in pandemics will be a very hard way...If the "mild" Spanish Flu killed 5% of the global population-in todays global 8,2 billion population that 5%=400 million+ deaths....

What we are facing-linked to CoViD-19, may have already hundreds of millions of people dealing with Long CoViD....other diseases (like flu) on top of it may kill billions of people...(Just like climate collapse can end humans/life...). 

If you fail to take risks seriously there is a price...Hope to be very wrong as always !

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