NATO-nazi link
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Subject: NATO-nazi link
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2024 at 12:56am
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DJ, NL has been a member of NATO since (before) it started in april 1949. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_NATO - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_NATO or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_NATO ; The history of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO - North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) begins in the immediate aftermath of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II - World War II when British diplomacy set the stage to contain the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union - Soviet Union and to stop the expansion of Soviet power in Europe. The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom - United Kingdom and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France - France signed, in 1947, the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Dunkirk - Treaty of Dunkirk , a defensive pact, which was expanded in 1948 with the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brussels - Treaty of Brussels to add the three https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelux - Benelux countries ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgium - Belgium , the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands - Netherlands , and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg - Luxembourg ) and committed them to collective defense against an armed attack for fifty years. The British worked with Washington to expand the alliance into NATO in 1949, adding the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States - United States and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada - Canada as well as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy - Italy , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal - Portugal , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway - Norway , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark - Denmark , and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland - Iceland . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_NATO#cite_note-wiebes_zeeman-1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece - Greece and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey - Turkey joined in 1952, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germany - West Germany joined in 1955, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain - Spain joined in 1982, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_Republic - Czech Republic , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary - Hungary and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland - Poland joined in 1999, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgaria - Bulgaria , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonia - Estonia , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvia - Latvia , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania - Lithuania , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania - Romania , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovakia - Slovakia , and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovenia - Slovenia joined in 2004, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania - Albania and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia - Croatia joined in 2009, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montenegro - Montenegro joined in 2017, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Macedonia - North Macedonia joined in 2020, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland - Finland joined in 2023, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden - Sweden joined in 2024. DJ, So NL, Belgium joined "pre-NATO" in 1948...At that time all major members UK-France-NL and Belgium all were in (lots of) colonial wars...in Africa and Asia most... From the start "stop communism" was part of a neo-colonial agenda. Therefore pro-western "leaders" in (former) colonies had to allow western companies to steal energy, gold, order coffee, cacao, fruits etc... The basic idea was "western whites" know best..."colonial subjects" were there to be exploited...De-colonization did result in neo-colonialism without the burden to "care for people"...."Keep them poor and uneducated"-was good for profits.... "USrael" also started in 1948....backed by both the US and Soviet Union. The Soviet Union-stalin-hoped former Jewish Red Army/World War Two veterans would play a major role in a "Jewish State"....
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2024 at 1:03am
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https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1823267742696214972 - https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1823267742696214972 or https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1823267742696214972 on USrael; https://x.com/MoonofA - https://x.com/RnaudBertrand">  https://x.com/RnaudBertrand - - https://x.com/RnaudBertrand - < aria-describedby="id__x6j19tb7x9n" aria-label="Subscribe to @RnaudBertrand" role="" ="-175oi2r r-sdzlij r-1phboty r-rs99b7 r-lrvibr r-15ysp7h r-4wgw6l r-3pj75a r-1loqt21 r-o7ynqc r-6416eg r-1ny4l3l" -testid="43061739-subscribe" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; : rgb239, 243, 244; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; border-color: rgba0, 0, 0, 0; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 32px; min-width: 32px; padding: 0px 16px; : relative; : 0; border-radius: 9999px; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; transition-property: , -shadow; user-: none; transition-duration: 0.2s;"> Subscribe < aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="menu" aria-label="More" role="" ="-175oi2r r-1777fci r-bt1l66 r-bztko3 r-lrvibr r-1loqt21 r-1ny4l3l" -testid="caret" ="" style="text-align: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; align-items: stretch; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; border-color: black; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0px; min-height: 20px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; : relative; : 0; overflow: ; justify-: center; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; user-: none;"> Extraordinary text by Israeli historian Omer Bartov, a former IDF soldier who's now the world's leading scholar on genocide and the Holocaust: https://t.co/BCjj3HNeUC -
He directly compares the ideology in today's Israel to that of Nazi Germany, says Israel is committing genocide and that it might be headed towards "self-annihilation".
Some extracts:
"[Israel has adopted a] logic of endless violence, a logic that allows one to destroy entire populations and to feel totally justified in doing so. It is a logic of victimhood – we must kill them before they kill us, as they did before – and nothing empowers violence more than a righteous sense of victimhood. Look at what happened to us in 1918, German soldiers said in 1942, recalling the propagandistic “stab-in-the-back” myth, which attributed Germany’s catastrophic defeat in the first world war to Jewish and communist treason. Look at what happened to us in the Holocaust, when we trusted that others would come to our rescue, IDF troops say in 2024, thereby giving themselves licence for indiscriminate destruction based on a false analogy between Hamas and the Nazis...
I told [some Zionist students] the story of how, in 1930, the German student union was democratically taken over by the Nazis. The students of that time felt betrayed by the loss of the first world war, the loss of opportunity because of the economic crisis, and the loss of land and prestige in the wake of the humiliating peace treaty of Versailles. They wanted to make Germany great again, and Hitler seemed able to fulfil that promise. Germany’s internal enemies were put away, its economy flourished, other nations feared it again, and then it went to war, conquered Europe and murdered millions of people. Finally, the country was utterly destroyed. I wondered aloud whether perhaps the few German students who survived those 15 years regretted their decision in 1930 to support nazism. But I do not think the young men and women at BGU understood the implications of what I had told them...
By the time I travelled to Israel, I had become convinced that at least since the attack by the IDF on Rafah on 6 May 2024, it was no longer possible to deny that Israel was engaged in systematic war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocidal actions. It was not just that this attack against the last concentration of Gazans – most of them displaced already several times by the IDF, which now once again pushed them to a so-called safe zone – demonstrated a total disregard of any humanitarian standards. It also clearly indicated that the ultimate goal of this entire undertaking from the very beginning had been to make the entire Gaza Strip uninhabitable, and to debilitate its population to such a degree that it would either die out or seek all possible options to flee the territory. In other words, the rhetoric spouted by Israeli leaders since 7 October was now being translated into reality – namely, as the 1948 UN Genocide Convention puts it, that Israel was acting “with intent to destroy, in whole or in part”, the Palestinian population in Gaza, “as such, by killing, causing serious harm, or inflicting conditions of life meant to bring about the group’s destruction”." - https://x.com/JohnAchterhof - - https://x.com/JohnAchterhof - · https://x.com/JohnAchterhof/status/1823303644243984502 - Zionism - understood not as a settled feat but as an ongoing, relentless project - mirrors Nazism:
- The aim of lebensraum
- virulent racist contempt
- collective narcissism & self-deception
- victimhood: "...nothing empowers violence more than a righteous sense of victimhood." - https://x.com/TanausuX">  https://x.com/TanausuX - - https://x.com/TanausuX - · https://x.com/TanausuX/status/1823270135102066913 - The Nazi comparison is 99% accurate with the 1% difference being purely geographical
One might even say that Israel has become more nazi/fascist than Germany ever was.
They’ve managed to “perfect” fascism while insisting that they are the “victim”. This is an entirely new level DJ, USrael may have started in reaction of the nazi-horrors. The holocaust mass murder of over 6 million Jews can push a "limited group" -like people identifying as "Jewish" into seeking safety in a "Jewish State".... Certainly given the anti-semitism for centuries in most western countries-based on christianity blaming the "Jews" for murdering jesus... However it resulted in USrael becoming an apartheid state where even a lot of less extreme zionists no longer feel at home...
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2024 at 1:40am
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Did write a part 3 on colonial wars, anti communism ...posted it...gone...So I will write on it later on... Let me be clear-I HATE the idea the west is not far from nazism now...Nazism/fascism is mixed in western history NOT an isolated exception... NOT stopping climate collapse/pandemics -because profits matter more than humans- should alarm us all !
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