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Topic: Climate collapse=pandemics !!!!!!
Posted By: Dutch Josh
Subject: Climate collapse=pandemics !!!!!!
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2024 at 11:45pm
DJ, From a statistical point of view https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation ;
In  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics - statistics correlation or dependence is any statistical relationship, whether  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality - causal  or not, between two  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_variable - random variables  or  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bivariate_data - bivariate data .may be seen...

Although in the broadest sense, "correlation" may indicate any type of association, in statistics it usually refers to the degree to which a pair of variables are  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_%28geometry%29 - linearly  related. Familiar examples of dependent phenomena include the correlation between the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height - height  of parents and their offspring, and the correlation between the price of a good and the quantity the consumers are willing to purchase, as it is depicted in the so-called  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demand_curve - demand curve .

Correlations are useful because they can indicate a predictive relationship that can be exploited in practice. For example, an electrical utility may produce less power on a mild day based on the correlation between electricity demand and weather.

DJ A WHO study/view;
12 October 2023
https://www.who.int/ar/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/climate-change-and-health - العربية
https://www.who.int/zh/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/climate-change-and-health - 中文
https://www.who.int/fr/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/climate-change-and-health - Français
https://www.who.int/ru/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/climate-change-and-health - Русский
https://www.who.int/es/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/climate-change-and-health - Español

Key facts

  • Climate change is directly contributing to humanitarian emergencies from heatwaves, wildfires, floods, tropical storms and hurricanes and they are increasing in scale, frequency and intensity.
  • Research shows that 3.6 billion people already live in areas highly susceptible to climate change. Between 2030 and 2050, climate change is expected to cause approximately 250 000 additional deaths per year, from undernutrition, malaria, diarrhoea and heat stress alone.
  • The direct damage costs to health (excluding costs in health-determining sectors such as agriculture and water and sanitation) is estimated to be between US$ 2–4 billion per year by 2030.
  • Areas with weak health infrastructure – mostly in developing countries – will be the least able to cope without assistance to prepare and respond.
  • Reducing emissions of greenhouse gases through better transport, food and energy use choices can result in very large gains for health, particularly through reduced air pollution.





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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2024 at 11:54pm
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7829891/ - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7829891/ or https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7829891/ ;

Analysis of Correlation between Climate Change and Human Health Based on a Machine Learning Approach

Our findings suggest that anthropogenic climate change is strongly correlated with human health; some diseases are mainly related to risk factors while others require a more significant number of variables to derive a correlation. 
In addition, a forecast of victims related to climate change was formulated. The predicted scenario confirms that a prevalently increasing trend in climate change factors corresponds to an increase in victims.
DJ, Can one have a "pandemic of heatstrokes"? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus_outbreak_timeline - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus_outbreak_timeline or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus_outbreak_timeline ;
This article primarily covers the chronology of the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_Zika_virus_epidemic - 2015–16 Zika virus epidemic . Flag icons denote the first announcements of confirmed cases by the respective nation-states, their first deaths (and other events such as their first reported cases of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcephaly - microcephaly  and major  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_health - public health  announcements), and relevant sessions and announcements of the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization - World Health Organization  (WHO), and the U.S.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention - Centers for Disease Control  (CDC), as well as relevant  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virology - virological https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology - epidemiological , and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entomology - entomological  studies.

DJ, Also malaria, dengue, lyme do have clear climate links...Zika virus (ZIKV; pronounced  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English - / - ˈ - iː - ə/  or  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English - / - ˈ - ɪ - ə/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus#cite_note-Pronunciation-3 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus#cite_note-eid14-4 - ) is a member of the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus - virus   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_%28biology%29 - family   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaviviridae - Flaviviridae . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus#cite_note-MaloneHoman2016-5 -  It is  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosquito-borne_disease - spread  by daytime-active  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aedes - Aedes  mosquitoes, such as  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aedes_aegypti - A. aegypti  and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aedes_albopictus - A. albopictus . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus#cite_note-MaloneHoman2016-5 -  Its name comes from the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziika_Forest - Ziika Forest  of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda - Uganda , where the virus was first isolated in 1947. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus#cite_note-SikkaChattu2016-6 - This section is an excerpt from  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culicoides_imicola#Role_of_climate_change - Culicoides imicola § Role of climate change .[ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Culicoides_imicola&action=edit#Role_of_climate_change - edit ]
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Traditionally, Culicoides imicola has been found in subtropical  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia - Asia  and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa - Africa . However, due to climate change, they have spread all the way to  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe - Europe  and as far as  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden - Sweden . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetongue_disease#cite_note-Culicoides_imicola_ref10-28 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetongue_disease#cite_note-29 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetongue_disease#cite_note-Culicoides_imicola_Bett2017-30 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetongue_disease#cite_note-Culicoides_imicola_AR6_WGII_Chapter5-31 - : 747 

So insect-spread diseases and climate should be above discussion...(my view). 


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2024 at 12:31am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_mpox_outbreak - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_mpox_outbreak or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_mpox_outbreak ;

In May 2022, the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization - World Health Organization  (WHO) made an emergency announcement of the existence of a multi-country  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease_outbreak - outbreak  of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpox - mpox , a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_disease - viral disease  then commonly known as "monkeypox". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_mpox_outbreak#cite_note-WHO13-7 -  The initial cluster of cases was found in the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom - United Kingdom , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_mpox_outbreak#cite_note-:13-8 -  where the first case was detected in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London - London  on 6 May 2022 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_mpox_outbreak#cite_note-gov.uk-9 -  in a patient with a recent travel history from  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria - Nigeria  where the disease has been  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endemic_%28epidemiology%29 - endemic . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_mpox_outbreak#cite_note-WHO12-10 -
 On 16 May, the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Health_Security_Agency - UK Health Security Agency  (UKHSA) confirmed four new cases with no link to travel to a country where mpox is endemic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_mpox_outbreak#cite_note-gov.uk-9 -  Subsequently, cases have been reported from many countries and regions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_mpox_outbreak#cite_note-11 -
 The outbreak marked the first time mpox had spread widely outside  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Africa - Central  and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Africa - West Africa . The disease had been circulating and evolving in human hosts over several years before the outbreak and was caused by the clade IIb variant of the virus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_mpox_outbreak#cite_note-12 -
-Is there a clear climate factor ???? Maybe in a timeline/big picture....

One could claim overpopulation/urbanization is the main motor for Mpox in Africa...more contact between animals with Mpox and humans (via urine/droppings of those infected animals)....


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2024 at 1:08am
DJ The 2022 global outbreak of Mpox was linked to the West African variant/clade...Mpox has been a problem in Africa for decades...HIV/AIDS, population growth/urbanization and CoViD may all be factors for "Mpox getting out of cotrol" in 2022...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpox_in_the_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo#2023-2024_outbreak - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpox_in_the_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo#2023-2024_outbreak or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpox_in_the_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo#2023-2024_outbreak ;

2023–2024 Central Africa outbreak

During 2023, a clade I outbreak of mpox disease in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) resulted in 14,626 suspected cases being reported, with 654 associated deaths, making for a case-fatality rate of 4.5%. The outbreak continued into 2024 with an additional 3,576 suspected mpox cases and 265 deaths being reported in the DRC through the first 9 weeks of the year, making for an estimated CFR of 7.4%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpox#cite_note-drcmpox-93 - Transmission of the virus in the outbreak appears to be primarily through sexual and close familial contact, with cases occurring in areas without a history of mpox, such as  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Kivu - South Kivu  and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinshasa - Kinshasa . An estimated 64% of the cases and 85% of fatalities have occurred in children. The outbreak seems to consist of two separate sub-variants of clade I, with one of the sub-variants having a novel mutation making detection with standard assays unreliable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpox#cite_note-drcmpox-93 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpox#cite_note-94 - The outbreak spread to the neighbouring country of the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Congo - Republic of Congo , with 43 mpox cases being reported in March 2024. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpox#cite_note-drcmpox-93 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpox#cite_note-cohen-68 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpox#cite_note-:1-18 -



Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2024 at 1:22am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#2018%E2%80%932020_African_swine_fever_panzootic - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#2018%E2%80%932020_African_swine_fever_panzootic or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#2018%E2%80%932020_African_swine_fever_panzootic ;

In August 2018,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China - China  reported the first African swine fever outbreak in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liaoning - Liaoning  province, which was also the first reported case in East Asia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-71 -  By September 1, 2018, the country had culled more than 38,000 hogs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-72 -  Since the week of September 10, 2018, China has blocked transports of live pigs and pig products in a large part of the country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-73 -  to avoid spread beyond the 6 provinces where the virus was then confirmed. By the end of 2018, the outbreaks had been reported in 23 provinces and municipalities across China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-74 -  On April 25, 2019, the virus was reported to have spread to every region of China, as well as parts of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia - Southeast Asia , including  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodia - Cambodia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laos - Laos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand - Thailand  and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam - Vietnam . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-BBC_Santorelli-75 -  The Chinese pig population was reported to have declined by almost 100 million compared with the previous year, driving European pork prices to reach a six-year high. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-Guardian-76 - In September 2019,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea - South Korea  confirmed a second case of African swine fever at a pig farm in Yeoncheon, where 4,700 pigs had been raised, a day after reporting its first-ever outbreak of the virus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-79 -  As of 31 October 2019, the virus has been detected in domestic pigs in nine places in Gyeonggi-do and five places in Incheon City. It was also confirmed in 18 wild boars from Gangwon-do and Gyeonggi-do, inside or near the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Demilitarized_Zone#Civilian_Control_Line - Civilian Control Zone . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-FAO-80 - ASFV is endemic to  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-Saharan_Africa - sub-Saharan Africa  and exists in the wild through a cycle of infection between ticks and wild pigs, bushpigs, and warthogs. The disease was first described after European settlers brought pigs into areas endemic with ASFV, and as such, is an example of an  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerging_infectious_disease - emerging infectious disease .

ASFV replicates in the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytoplasm - cytoplasm  of infected cells. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-sobrino10-1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-5 - ASFV crossed the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Ocean - Atlantic Ocean , and outbreaks were reported in some Caribbean islands, including  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispaniola - Hispaniola  (Dominican Republic and Haiti). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-Carib-27 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-Carib-27 - [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed - In 2018 the virus spread to Asia, affecting more than 10 percent of the total pig population in several countries, leading to severe economic losses in the pig sector. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#cite_note-28 - Abstract

Swine coronaviruses (SCoVs) are one of the most devastating pathogens affecting the livelihoods of farmers and swine industry across the world. These include transmissible gastroenteritis virus (TGEV), porcine epidemic diarrhea virus (PEDV), porcine respiratory coronavirus (PRCV), porcine hemagglutinating encephalomyelitis virus (PHEV), swine acute diarrhea syndrome coronavirus (SADS-CoV), and porcine delta coronavirus (PDCoV). Coronaviruses infect a wide variety of animal species and humans because these are having single stranded-RNA that accounts for high mutation rates and thus could break the species barrier. The gastrointestinal, cardiovascular, and nervous systems are the primary organ systems affected by SCoVs. Infection is very common in piglets compared to adult swine causing high mortality in the former. Bat is implicated to be the origin of all CoVs affecting animals and humans. Since pig is the only domestic animal in which CoVs cause a wide range of diseases; new coronaviruses with high zoonotic potential could likely emerge in the future as observed in the past. 

The recently emerged severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus virus-2 (SARS-CoV-2), causing COVID-19 pandemic in humans, has been implicated to have animal origin, also reported from few animal species, though its zoonotic concerns are still under investigation. 

This review discusses SCoVs and their epidemiology, virology, evolution, pathology, wildlife reservoirs, interspecies transmission, spill-over events and highlighting their emerging threats to swine population. The role of pigs amid ongoing SARS-CoV-2 pandemic will also be discussed. A thorough investigation should be conducted to rule out zoonotic potential of SCoVs and to design appropriate strategies for their prevention and control.


DJ, So could African Swine Fever Virus be mixed with a Swine coronavirus and have resulted in the SARS-2 pandemic killing so far 32-40 million humans ? 

With climate a major underlying factor ? 




Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2024 at 1:49am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-1 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-1 ;
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 1 (SARS-CoV-1), previously known as severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-1#cite_note-van_Doremalen_et_al.,_NEJM_2020-2 -  is a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strain_%28biology%29 - strain  of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus - coronavirus  that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS - SARS ), the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_illness - respiratory illness  responsible for the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002%E2%80%932004_SARS_outbreak - 2002–2004 SARS outbreak . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-1#cite_note-Thiel-3 -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2 ;

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS‑CoV‑2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-CoronavirusStudyGroup-2 -  is a strain of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus - coronavirus  that causes  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19 - COVID-19 , the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_illness - respiratory illness  responsible for the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic - COVID-19 pandemic . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-NYT-20210226-3 -  The virus previously had the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novel_coronavirus - provisional name  2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-WHO21Jan2020-4 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-CDC-nCoV-5 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-CDCAbout-6 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-NYT6-7 -  and has also been called human coronavirus 2019 (HCoV-19 or hCoV-19). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-Zoonotic-8 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-Proximal-9 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-NEJM-Stability-10 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-China_natl_GeneBank-11 -  First identified in the city of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan - Wuhan , Hubei, China, the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization - World Health Organization  designated the outbreak a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_health_emergency_of_international_concern - public health emergency of international concern  from January 30, 2020, to May 5, 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-WHO-PHEIC-12 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-WHOPandemic-13 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-14 -  SARS‑CoV‑2 is a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive-sense_single-stranded_RNA_virus - positive-sense single-stranded RNA virus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-Machhi2020Sep-15 -  that is  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagious_disease - contagious  in humans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2#cite_note-Chan24Jan2020-16 -

So...(I am NOT any kind of expert-just making my mind up...This is NOT science...just a forum on science...)

"Climate collapse = pandemics" ????

-It will be a major factor ! There may not be other ways to explain the growth in diseases going global...
-CoViD decreasing immunity is worsening the problem...However Zika-virus, African Swine Fever became global before CoViD19 showed up...
-CoViD-19 itself may have become a global disaster with climate collapse being a major factor. 

DJ-Of course there are lots of other factors;

Pandemic triangle is disease-transport-host...

The transport factor -tens of millions of people per day traveling from one continent to another will result in more diseases going from one continent to another...

Decrease of travel=decrease of pandemic risks...

Hosts, humans/mammals may have become more vulnerable...There may have been over 4 billion human CoViD cases...so even if that "only" would decrease human immunity defense by 10% it -in itself-would mean more diseases going global...

Diseases have been part of human history...most of the time we were able to "limit damage enough" to see human population grow from 1 billion in the 1800's to over 8.1 billion in 2024...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_growth - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_growth or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_growth 

DJ-There may be a point in population growth=climate collapse...
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https://x.com/ProfMarkMaslin/status/1708771106641871023 -
https://x.com/hashtag/COP28?src=hashtag_click - #COP28 https://x.com/hashtag/ClimateChange?src=hashtag_click - #ClimateChange is about consumption of very richest people in our global society. 50% of global emissions are emitted by just 10% of the population. 90% of global emissions by 50% of the population. We need climate justice to save our planet. The rich need to step up

DJ, One could claim a small group of people may be responsible for increasing both climate and pandemic risks...Overpopulation itself is NOT the major problem...

Around 80% of airtravel is done by 20% of air travellers...(Very likely over 50% of the global population NEVER was in an airplane !!!). 

Airpolution is killing millions of people per year...so yet another factor....

DJ-I leave it to experts to further investigate the climate component of pandemics...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaneer_Bar-Yam - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaneer_Bar-Yam or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaneer_Bar-Yam ;

Yaneer Bar-Yam (born 1959) is an American scientist and activist specializing in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_system - complex systems . An expert in the quantitative analysis of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic - pandemics , he advised policy makers on the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_African_Ebola_virus_epidemic - Western African Ebola virus epidemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaneer_Bar-Yam#cite_note-1 -  and founded EndCoronavirus.org, a global network of several volunteers formed in February 2020 to provide information, guidelines, and policy advocacy to fight the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic - COVID-19 pandemic . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaneer_Bar-Yam#cite_note-:0-2 -  He is the founding president of the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Complex_Systems_Institute - New England Complex Systems Institute  (NECSI), an independent research institution that studies complex systems science and its real-world applications.

DJ, Understanding "compex systems" may help finding solutions...




Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2024 at 2:04am
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adk4500 - https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adk4500 or https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adk4500 ;

Will climate change amplify epidemics and give rise to pandemics?

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adk4500#con1 - https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adk4500#con2 -
SCIENCE
25 Aug 2023
Vol 381Issue 6660
https://doi.org/10.1126/science.adk4500 - DOI: 10.1126/science.adk4500


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A comprehensive meta-analysis revealed that climate change  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-022-01426-1 - could aggravate more than 50% of known human pathogens . Unfortunately, this is happening now.
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Since the last big wave of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)—the omicron variant—less than 2 years ago, a range of pathogens have suddenly emerged. Some are not well-known, such as mpox and chikungunya virus; others have been known about for centuries, such as Vibrio cholerae (which causes cholera) and Plasmodia parasites (which cause malaria). There is even the prospect that pathogens frozen in the permafrost, for which no immunity currently exists, may be released as the climate continues to warm. Such a notion may be considered alarmist. And some people may think neither climate change nor epidemics are real or that both will pass. However, there is overwhelming  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/apr/28/climate-crisis-future-pandemics-zoonotic-spillover - evidence that climate change is fueling disease outbreaks and epidemics  and that it is not a matter of if, but when, such events will precipitate another pandemic.
There are several ways that climate hazards aggravate infectious diseases, both directly and indirectly. These include the slow rise in temperature; changes in environmental conditions that increase the dispersal of disease vectors such as mosquitoes, rodents, and ticks; and the sudden appearance of extreme events such as floods, which contaminate drinking-water sources and trigger the displacement of humans and animals, which can carry and transmit pathogens.
DJ, climate "hazards" and "diseases" can interact in so many ways...

PTSD/mental issues are an increasing problem...Losing hope in fellow humans, the future, politics are part of that problem as well...

https://necsi.edu/the-collapse-of-civilization - https://necsi.edu/the-collapse-of-civilization or https://necsi.edu/the-collapse-of-civilization (2008 !!!)

The cover story of April 5's New Scientist offers commentary by NECSI president, Yaneer Bar-Yam, on the nature and vulnerabilities of modern civilization. The increasing interconnectedness of global systems both enhances our abilities, and leads to collective risks. Any segment of the global community threatened by natural disaster or disease will have severe repercussions for the rest of the world.

"Losing pieces indiscriminately from a highly complex system is very dangerous," said Dr. Bar-Yam. "One of the most profound results of complex systems research is that when systems are highly complex, individuals matter." According to Bar-Yam, understanding the weaknesses of civilization is critical to our ongoing existence. "Complexity leads to higher vulnerability in some ways," he said. "This is not widely understood."

Complex systems science is a vital tool for protecting society worldwide from such dangers as pandemics, natural disaster, terrorism, climate change, resource exhaustion, as well as economic crises.


DJ, A part of a solution may be in making systems less complex....

I think "internet" is great...but when a software update error disturbs air travel to hospitals around many countries for hours we may not be using it in a clever enough way...

Cars are "great"...but 1 billion cars on this planet is a disaster making mobility problems worse NOT better...

DJ; We may even benefit from "re-thinking" the way we live ! Less stress, less meat, less car use may improve our lives ! It also may save the planet and humanity !



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