On the UK riots
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Topic: On the UK riots
Posted By: Dutch Josh
Subject: On the UK riots
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2024 at 9:38pm
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DJ, It is very easy and cheap to blame all the UK riots on a marginal "english defense league" group. Farage did get 14% of the votes in the last UK elections...hardly any seats in parliament. The two party-district-system ended up in a uni-party power elite... It is criminal to attack refugees, Muslims, Jews or all other groups because they are "different". It is also criminal to get the rich even more rich - the poor deeper into poverty. The US-UK-NL has a lot of similarities. Here in NL in parliament we end up with 15 parties...the welcome fact may be less people do not feel represented...However even in NL there is a tendency towards a "uni-party"...
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2024 at 9:52pm
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https://x.com/Tracking_Power/status/1819696060941627553 - https://x.com/Tracking_Power/status/1819696060941627553 or https://x.com/Tracking_Power/status/1819696060941627553 What role may "USrael" play in organizing anti-Muslim riots ? In NL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#Financing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#Financing or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#Financing ; Financially, the party has been largely relying on donations. The party has not disclosed any of its finances until 2013. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_Brinkman - Hero Brinkman , a former MP for the party, the PVV received most of its finances from certain foreign (American) lobby-groups. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#cite_note-162 - [162] According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuters - Reuters , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pipes - Daniel Pipes' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Forum - Middle East Forum paid for the trials and security of Geert Wilders and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz - David Horowitz paid Wilders "a good fee" for two speeches given in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#cite_note-163 - [163] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#cite_note-164 - [164] Since 2013, Dutch political parties are required by law to disclose all donations of 4,500 euro or more. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#cite_note-financinglaw-160 - [160] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#cite_note-politicofinances-165 - [165] The Party for Freedom disclosed no donations for 2013. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#cite_note-166 - [166] For 2014 to 2016, the party disclosed a total of 148,391.07 euro in donations from the California-based https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz_Freedom_Center - David Horowitz Freedom Center , a total of 18,700 euro in donations from a private donor in the Netherlands, and a donation of 6,853.70 euro from the New York-based company FOL Inc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#cite_note-politicofinances-165 - [165] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#cite_note-167 - [167] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#cite_note-168 - [168] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#cite_note-169 - [169] The 2015 donations of just over 108,244 euro from the Freedom Center was "the largest individual contribution to a Dutch political party that year." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Freedom#cite_note-170 - [170] and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#Early_life_and_career - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#Early_life_and_career or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#Early_life_and_career ; Wilders' goal after he graduated from secondary school was to see the world. Because he did not have enough money to travel to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia - Australia , his preferred destination, he went to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel - Israel instead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#cite_note-visions-7 - [7] and volunteered for a year in a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshav - moshav , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomer - Tomer , on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank - West Bank . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#cite_note-moshav-39 - [39] With the money he saved, he travelled to the neighbouring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_world - Arab countries, and was moved by the lack of democracy in the region. When he returned to the Netherlands, he retained Israeli ideas about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-terrorism - counter-terrorism and a "special feeling of solidarity" for the country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#cite_note-Vkrant-40 - [40] and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#Personal_life - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#Personal_life or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#Personal_life ; According to a profile in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier_Weekblad - Elsevier Weekblad Wilders was in a short-lived marriage at the age of 20. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#cite_note-180 - [180] He has since been married to Krisztina Wilders (née Márfai), a former diplomat from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary - Hungary of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish - Jewish origin, since July 1992. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#cite_note-181 - [181] Wilders is an agnostic, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#cite_note-182 - [182] but he has stated that he thinks Christians "are my allies" and that they fundamentally should want the same thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#cite_note-iran-37 - [37] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#cite_note-cbn-183 - [183] In June 2011, disclosure of Wilder's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_finance - personal finances indicated that he founded a self-administered company one year earlier without reporting this via the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_records - public records of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Representatives_%28Netherlands%29 - House of Representatives , which he, as a parliamentarian, should have done. The company is known as OnLiberty BV and is aimed at acquiring intellectual and property rights. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#cite_note-184 - [184] Wilders later explained he had acted this way for security reasons and that the company had no connection to the PVV. OnLiberty BV has since been formally registered in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breda - Breda . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders#cite_note-185 - [185] DJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peoples_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy# - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy# or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy# Former PM mark rutte his party. Both "freedom parties" hide a lot of their financing. May be to close to "Jewish/zionist lobby groups". So; -In the US no one has any doubt on USrael/zionists having a major influence in US politics -In the UK, NL that influence may be more hidden... Another point has to be NOT all "USraeli groups/organizations" work for the USrael government. Organized crime also may play a role (and "intel" may use crime groups for their goals).
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2024 at 10:08pm
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DJ, If you want less migrants/refugees than stop wars resulting in refugees, solve the problems behind it... A major problem is almost all "politicians" come from "better of" families and neighbourhoods...It is so easy to claim "integration works" when you live and work in an "elite environment"... Some economists describe both the US and UK as "third world countries with a rich elite"...so the GDP still suggest a rich country but inequality is that major most citizens face major socio-economic problems. My view; goals to fight for are; -GOOD housing -GOOD healthcare -GOOD education for ALL !!! The "divide and rule" games are setting up one group of poor and exploited against another...Using the unrest to get even more "control" (to exploit). If you are "not far right just fed up" know what is making you "fed up"! https://x.com/georgegalloway - https://x.com/georgegalloway or https://x.com/georgegalloway https://x.com/halimanyomi - https://x.com/halimanyomi or https://x.com/halimanyomi DJ-A rich elite puts profits above public health ! In 2003 SARS-1 was stopped ! In 2019 profits mattered more than stopping SARS-2 !!! Wars to steal oil, gas, uranium, gold are now top-priority of an anti-democratic elite. That elite is further defunding housing, healthcare, education and playing groups of the polulation so the "elite" can secure their position and finance even "better"... Pandemics most hurt the poor...life expectency for "the poorest" may be 20+ years LESS than for the "elite"... Stop fighting fellow poor-start fighting an anti democratic elite always trying to use you !
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2024 at 11:58pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdHktWSMnxo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdHktWSMnxo or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdHktWSMnxo Firstpost/India;
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 11:31pm
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https://x.com/georgegalloway - https://x.com/NormanBrennan">  https://x.com/NormanBrennan - - https://x.com/NormanBrennan - · https://x.com/NormanBrennan/status/1821268281874915694 - Folks it currently looks quite calm & in some areas even cordial across Britain! I’m sure we all want that to remain case! Feel free to RT this as you can take it from me that it’s Not>Fake news but what tens of millions of us want to see & hear>No to any hate anger or disorder  DJ, Lots of protests against racism/fascism in the UK...A violent group -supported by some "media" - had a chance to attack refugees, black, brown, yellow skinned fellow humans... https://x.com/HalimaNyomi - - https://x.com/HalimaNyomi - · https://x.com/HalimaNyomi/status/1821229768932557039 - Over 100 planned riots across the country.
The Purge has commenced and it feels like it looks in the movies.
Whatever happens tonight, the UK has some of the best intelligence on planet Earth.
I refuse to believe hooligans evaded intelligence in their planning of 7th August. DJ, The "uni-party" (conservative-labour) has a lot to explain. How could "right wing extremists" go "this wild"...What role does "US-rael" play in anti-Muslim riots ? My view; Some politicians/parties undermine democrazy-turned it into democrazy...politicians-press-"science" for sale is destructive...A basic cause for CoViD becoming a pandemic... The UK riots did not spread outside the UK...(there were some "issues" in occupied north part of Ireland...). That it did not spread is welcome news...
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