Post Reply - WAR

   DJ, For NL World War Two started in may 1940-almost 85 years ago...The European aspect of that war for NL has three stages; Invasion-may 1940 and two (main) battles; september 1944, april 1945...
It is now 80 years ago British and Canadian forces moved in towards my town Arnhem. In september/october 1944 around 200,000 citizens from this area were "evacuated"...Some of them survived the winter 44/45 in chicken runs. The west of NL faced mass starvation killing 20,000 people. (With excess deaths very likely above a "norm" for a lot of people not dying). 

So in april 1945 British/Canadian forces moved into the Arnhem region from the South-East..the same route the Germans used in may 1940 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_of_Arnhem or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_of_Arnhem ..."the liberation" of Arnhem was described as moving into a ghost town...Several hundreds died while fighting in ruins...

UK/Canada forces in part fighting Dutch ss troops...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evacuation_of_Arnhem or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evacuation_of_Arnhem Some parts of Arnhem-and suburbs to the east (Velp a.o) were NOT evacuated...Allied bombings did kill dozens of Dutch citizens...
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At an international reception a woman from Nijmegen-at that reception- heard a US air force "higher rank" bragging on how he bombed Nijmegen in february 1944...killing over 800 Dutch citizens...The woman was shocked and disgusted...
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DJ, Does the US understand what war is ? Europe has seen way to much bloodbaths...Russia/Soviet Union lossed 27 million people beating the nazi's...it stopped napoleon and will stop nato...

China not only did see millions killed fighting Japan since the 1930's...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War#Casualties or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War#Casualties China also did see the US killing tens of thousends Chinese forces in Korea 1950-53...with a "coalition of the willing" fighting against the USSR/China-communism...

Europe did also send some "experienced fighters" (in part to get rid of them) that did fight for the Germans and/or in colonial wars...

The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War 1980-1988 -US created- may have seen 1 million deaths...the 2003 NATO invasion of Iraq may have resulted in loss of lives at the same level....

My point; If you have seen war you will do all you can to avoid war...Somehow US politics never realizes what war brings...A possible outcome could be the US may see war on its soil...Learning the hard way...