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Topic - Climate
Posted: 04 Nov 2024 at 11:57pm By Dutch Josh 2
https://english.elpais.com/spain/2024-11-04/severe-weather-wreaks-havoc-in-barcelona-flights-canceled-and-trains-suspended.html or https://english.elpais.com/spain/2024-11-04/severe-weather-wreaks-havoc-in-barcelona-flights-canceled-and-trains-suspended.html ;

The same storm system that caused deadly flash flooding in Spain’s Valencia region has now gripped parts of Catalonia

The same storm system that caused deadly flash flooding in Spain’s Valencia region hit the province of Barcelona on Monday. Heavy rain and strong winds affected the province of Tarragona overnight, and by Monday morning, the storm had moved northward, bringing severe conditions to the coastal areas of the city of Barcelona. The Catalan regional government issued alerts to residents in Barcelonès, Garraf, Maresme, and the two Vallès regions, advising them to limit movement to essential travel only.

Spain’s Civil Protection unit released a statement urging parents not to pick up their children from school, stressing that “schools are a safe place.” The statement underscores the importance of minimizing mobility. The AP-7 freeway is currently closed near Tarragona, highways leading into southern Barcelona are flooded, and the national rail operator Renfe has suspended train services across Catalonia.


DJ, My view/understanding; There were in-time warnings for extreme weather in/near Valencia. Somehow that communication failed to reach the public or was ignored.

There are also stories of dry riverbeds used to park cars...A concrete "thing" in a riverbed blocking water...So-YES-several (local)  governments may not have done such a good job...Driving a car in flooded areas is high risk...

More bad weather may be on its way to Spain. Both from another low in the Mediterranean and former "Patty" moving in via Portugal from the Atlantic...
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"Rafael" https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/18L_gefs_latest.png or https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/18L_gefs_latest.png again more narrow-still in between Texas and Florida-this weekend...

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/18L_intensity_latest.png or https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/18L_intensity_latest.png Cat.1...maybe Cat-2 but will be a storm by landfall...

Like with "Helena" it may be the speed of the storm moving inland that could do a lot of damage...The faster it goes the higher the risks...but still days away...and also some uncertainty...So maybe "Rafael" may NOT become a problem...
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https://www.fastcompany.com/91219487/the-disturbing-link-between-climate-change-and-authoritarianism or https://www.fastcompany.com/91219487/the-disturbing-link-between-climate-change-and-authoritarianism ;
Political scientists have theorized that, in the face of physical, economic, and social vulnerability, voters seek safety in the form of leaders who promise to take decisive action to deliver relief. One study of elections in India found that voters punish incumbents when it floods—unless the incumbents respond vigorously to the disaster.

DJ, bad leaders create crises...still get a lot of votes. Climate-denial is popular-"there is no problem"...even I would love to believe that...Only it does NOT solve real problems...

Climate (pandemics is related to climate collapse) needs a GLOBAL answer...It may be one of the "motors" behind BRICS+....Countries kept poor by the west did see a lot more climate problems-NOT being solved by that "west"...A.o. China and India did see lots of flooding AND drought...

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