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    Posted: Yesterday at 2:36am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_crash_of_1929#Background or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_crash_of_1929#Background ;
The "Roaring Twenties", the decade following World War I that led to the crash,[4] was a time of wealth and excess. Building on post-war optimism, rural Americans migrated to the cities in vast numbers throughout the decade with hopes of finding a more prosperous life in the ever-growing expansion of America's industrial sector.[5]
Despite the inherent risk of speculation, it was widely believed that the stock market would continue to rise forever 
DJ, The neo-liberal "market economy-blind capitalism phantasy" did see governments sinking in debts and pushing public money to private companies/billionaires expecting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics ;

Trickle-down economics is a pejorative term for government economic policies deemed by opponents to disproportionately favor the upper tier of the economic spectrum (wealthy individuals and large corporations). These opponents reject the notion that spending by this elite group would "trickle down" to those who are less fortunate and lead to economic growth that will eventually benefit the economy as a whole.[1] According to Australian economist Heinz Arndt, use of the term has been criticized on the grounds that no mainstream economist or major political party advocates the trickle-down theory.[2]

DJ...politicians-for-sale serving their buyers...
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https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/extremely-urgent-just-got-the-word-margin-calls-began-this-morning or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/extremely-urgent-just-got-the-word-margin-calls-began-this-morning ;

Hedge funds have been hit with the biggest margin calls since Covid shut down huge parts of the global economy in 2020, after Donald Trump’s tariffs triggered a powerful rout in global financial markets.

Wall Street banks have asked their hedge fund clients to pony-up more money as security for their loans because the value of their holdings had fallen as stock values dropped, according to three people familiar with the matter.

Several big banks issued the largest margin calls to their clients since the beginning of the pandemic in early 2020.  I am told these Margin Calls are "much larger than during the 2008 Great Financial Crisis."

The margin calls underscore the intense turbulence in global markets on Thursday and Friday as Trump’s tariffs announcement was followed by retaliatory duties by China, and other countries readied their own responses. Wall Street’s S&P 500 share index was set to post its worst week since 2020, while oil and riskier corporate bonds have sold off heavily.


DJ...so buying shares to take loans to buy more shares-pushing up "demand" in self illusion...US debts grow almost as fast as the stocks went up...

"the real danger of the stock market dropping like it is, is that as stock values drop, the Banks will make Margin Calls to those borrowers telling them they need to pony-up more money to collateralize their loans.  Some who borrowed will be able to pay, others will not.   When they cannot pay, the Bank "calls-in the loan" and the Borrower is "in Default."

As more and more defaults happen, more stock values plunge, triggering more stock selling which only makes the whole thing worse.  It feeds on itself!

This immediately triggers the "Credit Default Swaps."   Banks went to Insurance companies and bought protection if the Borrowers Default.  That protection is Credit Default Swaps: If the loan defaults, the Insurance company pays the "Swap."

But as this stock slide continues, more and more loans will default and some Insurance companies may NOT be able to pay-off on those Credit Default Swaps.  The Insurance companies go under.

When they go under, all the OTHER banks that they insured must then book losses ON THE SAME DAY . . . . and the Banks go under.


DJ, Global economy is a house of cards...In his insanity trumpf just blew over that house of cards...

The idea of "everlasting economic/GDP growth" in itself is insane...

Globalization of the economy had to maximize profits-seeking ever lower production costs. The basis for such kind of globalization meant massive exploitation of "the poor" to get "the rich" even more rich...
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DJ, Another factor then shares as security for loans to buy more shares...is creating money out of thin air...

The intrinsic value of the US$ may be 5% of its "paper" value...The US has a debt based economy...Foreign investers no longer buy US bonds, US citizens are unable to repay debts...

De-dollar-ization was NOT a BRICS+ goal but the outcome of western sanctions-overuse, "freezing" assets of too many countries...while at the same time the US ever more urgently NEEDED those countries to keep using the US$ as reserve currency...

You CAN NOT both sanction/freeze assets of Russia, Iran, Venezuela 9etc) AND expect them to also keep using the US$...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0alGvV0Sjc or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0alGvV0Sjc Judge Naploitano;

Prof. Jeffery Sachs : The Disaster of Tariffs


DJ, US trade defecits are the outcome of US outsourcing jobs to low-income countries. Assembly in the US is "made in USA"...So the tariffs back fire...
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https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/figures/2021/human-and-budgetary-costs-date-us-war-afghanistan-2001-2022 or https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/figures/2021/human-and-budgetary-costs-date-us-war-afghanistan-2001-2022 Afghan war did cost 2,313 trillion US$...

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🇺🇸📉3.25 trillion USD wiped out from the US stock market today. 📈 5.4 billion USD was added to the crypto market.

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🇪🇺🇺🇸 The European Commission has announced that EU trade ministers will meet on April 7 to agree on retaliatory measures against the sweeping U.S. tariffs imposed by the Trump administration. A full-scale transatlantic trade war is brewing.
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🇺🇸 Rubio: The U.S. Expects NATO Countries to Increase Defense Spending to 5% of GDP

DJ, US bombing of Yemen costs over 1,000,000,000 US$....https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/true-cost-iraq-war-3-trillion-and-beyond or https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/true-cost-iraq-war-3-trillion-and-beyond ; Writing in these pages in early 2008, we put the total cost to the United States of the Iraq war at $3 trillion. This price tag dwarfed previous estimates, including the Bush administration's 2003 projections of a $50 billion to $60 billion war. But today, as the United States ends combat in Iraq, it appears that our $3 trillion estimate (which accounted for both government expenses and the war's broader impact on the U.S. economy) was, if anything, too low. For example, the cost of diagnosing, treating and compensating disabled veterans has proved higher than we expected.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/ or https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/ DJ-The UKraine war-since 2008-may have cost over 1 trillion US$....(but a lot of playing around-it is an "investment"...a loan...however UKraine will not be able to pay for it...
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A bit more from the hal turner story; who will pay for this trump made crisis ? YOU will pay for this trump made crisis ! ;

While today's troubles are not caused by MORTGAGE-BACKED Securities, as was the case in the year 2008, it now appears it will happen because of loans to Commercial Entities!   

They borrowed money and used Stocks as collateral.

The stocks didn't go up, they have now gone DOWN.

The loans they took are no longer properly collateralized, so the banks call them and say, we need you to put up more collateral or cash.

The Hedge Funds (maybe) can't do it.   They default - and go under.

The Banks took out a sort of Insurance against this, called Credit Default Swaps.   The Banks go to the Insurance Company and demand payment.   Maybe the Insurance company CAN'T pay all the claims - they default and go under.

Now, all the other Banks that those Insurance Companies had Swaps with, have to book losses because the Swaps are no good.  They book all the losses - on the same day - and THEY GO UNDER.

The whole system comes crashing down ---- again.  

No "Bail-Outs" --  This time, "BAIL-IN"

Only THIS TIME, the laws have changed.  THIS TIME, the banks don't get bailed-OUT by government, they get BAILED-IN by . . .  you and me.  Depositors.

When we opened our Checking, Savings, Certificate of Deposit, I.R.A. or 401-K accounts, the terms in the Contract (and the new laws) allow the Bank to TAKE OUR MONEY and swap Stock Certificates in that Bank, for the value of money they took from the Depositor!   YOU AND ME "Bail-IN" the Bank.

While the terms and conditions vary from Bank to Bank, the common theme is that a Depositor CANNOT SELL THOSE BANK SHARES for a year or more!

Sooooooo . . . . what do you and me do for money until then?  

Oh, and once that year or so arrives, who is going to want to buy those Stocks in a bank that went bad?   Probably nobody!

So you and I are left with almost worthless "Stocks" in a Bank that took our money.


DJ, So these laws push for bank runs...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-how-trumps-tariff-tizzy-burning-down-house or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-how-trumps-tariff-tizzy-burning-down-house ;

Circus ringmaster Trump’s Tariff Tizzy (TTT), christened by himself as “Liberation Day”, is being largely interpreted around the world – Global North and Global South alike – as Slaughterhouse Day.

This de facto uncontrolled economic demolition gambit starts with the warped fantasy that launching a customs war on China is a bright idea. As bright as collecting a few trillion extra dollars in tariffs assuming the rest of the planet will be somewhat “encouraged” to sell to the Hegemon, while pretending that these tariffs will lead to the re-industrialization of the U.S.

The tragicomic mask of a self-appointed circus ringmaster of turbo-capitalism may be as pathetic as the European chihuahua rage boosting their “revenge” via Rearmament – with funds that they plan to steal from the savings accounts of unsuspecting citizens.

The indispensable Michael Hudson has configured the key problem. Allow me a little tweak: “Sanctions and threats are the only thing that the United States has left. It no longer can offer other countries a win-win situation, and Trump has said that America has to be the net gainer in any international deal it’s made, whether it’s a financial deal or a trade deal. And if America is saying, any deal we make, you lose, I win”, that Mafia extortion gambit does not exactly reflect the Art of the Deal.

Prof. Hudson neatly describes Trump’s negotiation tactics: “When you don’t have very much to offer economically, all you can do is offer not to hurt other countries, not to sanction them, not to do something that will be against their interest.” Now, with TTT, Trump is actually “offering” to hurt them all. And they will certainly invest in all sorts of counter-tactics to “get away” from that “strategy” of American “diplomacy”.

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A rentier FIRE Empire (financialization, insurance, real estate, as masterfully analyzed by Michael Hudson), which offshored its manufacturing industries and was gobbled up by a pile of overleveraged hedge funds, Wall Street derivatives and Silicon Valley totalitarian surveillance in the end decides to strike…itself.

Poetic justice applies. Burning Down the House – from inside the house. As for the emerging, sovereign Global Majority, rejoice: and step on the high-speed rail de-dollarization train.

DJ, Iran also warned; A US attack on Iran would destroy the US economy...

European and US banks are very much linked. A US banking crisis also will pull European banks with them...

Trust is a basic essential for any economy...and for "the west" trust is gone...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv5ZkxQvsz8 or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv5ZkxQvsz8 Geopolotical Economy Report/Ben Norton;

Trump's tariffs make no sense, and will backfire hard on the US economy

In what he called "Liberation Day", Donald Trump imposed heavy tariffs on countries around the world, falsely claiming they were "reciprocal". In reality, the taxes on imports were based on the US trade deficit with other nations. Ben Norton explains how the Trump administration's economic policies are contradictory and will backfire hard on the US economy, fueling inflation while failing to re-industrialize. Sources and links here: https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2025/... Topics 0:00 Trump imposes heavy tariffs 0:27 (CLIP) Trump's "Liberation Day" 0:52 Trump's global trade war 1:18 (CLIP) "Tariff is the most beautiful word" 1:41 New tariff rates 3:20 Backfiring 4:04 How the tariffs were calculated 7:08 Retaliation 8:45 Role of US dollar dominance 9:30 (CLIP) Trump on de-dollarization 9:48 (CLIP) Trump threatens BRICS 10:17 US balance of payments 12:37 Alternative to US dollar 13:14 Dumbest trade war in history 13:42 Reindustrialization 14:32 Financialization 17:53 Inflation 20:00 Coffee, fruit, & vegetables 22:06 Imports from China 24:02 Imports from Vietnam 25:26 Imports of electronics 27:51 Industrial policy 33:41 Moving tax burden from rich to poor 37:02 Outro || Geopolitical Economy Report || Please consider supporting us at https://GeopoliticalEconomy.com/Support
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DJ, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWvKs_XWZQs or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWvKs_XWZQs ;

USA Ending Its Own Hegemony. Tariffs Are HUGE Gift To China And BRICS | Dr. Warwick Powell


The trumpf-tariffs-insanity does see the EU meeting China, Vietnam in Hanoi april 16...
The EU may have a "problem" with the "R" in BRICS+...however "BICS+" may show a good alternative...

Trade between the EU and India, China would have to go via TIP-Türkiye-Iran-Pakistan...
The US (and UK) are "attacking" also that link...after blowing up Nordstream-pushing the EU towards higher energy costs...

However blowing up Nordstream did NOT bring the EU to massive-very high costs- US energy...Lots of other energy exporters offered energy at lower then US prices..
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