Pandemic Watch

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   DJ-One of the wrong ideas may be we are "watching" for just one disease to be a next "pandemic"...
HIV/AIDS is still "pan-demic" παν (pan)   and δῆμος (dêmos)
DJ; Old-Greek "Pan Demos"means "All of the people"...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic so CoViD came on top of the ongoing HIV/AIDS pan-demic. 

HIV/AIDS was first identified as a disease in 1981, and is an ongoing worldwide public health issue.^[65]^[66] Since then, HIV/AIDS has killed an estimated 40 million people with a further 630,000 deaths annually; 39 million people are currently living with HIV infection.

DJ, In history lots of diseases may have had "co-spread"...One disease may undermine immunity defense against other diseases...

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Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 23 Jun 2024 Status: Offline Points: 554	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Pandemic Watch Posted: 01 Jul 2024 at 11:19pm
	DJ-One of the wrong ideas may be we are "watching" for just one disease to be a next "pandemic"... HIV/AIDS is still "pan-demic" παν (pan) and δῆμος (dêmos) DJ; Old-Greek "Pan Demos"means "All of the people"...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic so CoViD came on top of the ongoing HIV/AIDS pan-demic. HIV/AIDS was first identified as a disease in 1981, and is an ongoing worldwide public health issue.^[65]^[66] Since then, HIV/AIDS has killed an estimated 40 million people with a further 630,000 deaths annually; 39 million people are currently living with HIV infection. DJ, In history lots of diseases may have had "co-spread"...One disease may undermine immunity defense against other diseases...

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 23 Jun 2024 Status: Offline Points: 554	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jul 2024 at 12:50am
	A "PHEIC"-called by the WHO- (World Health Organization) is NOT the same as a pandemic; A Public Health EMERGENCY of International Concern however may be the start of such a pandemic. CoViD is no longer "emerging"-a NEW disease...in a "showing up phase"...(because "old" diseases can become pandemic as well...) Since the "Spanish Flu" was the last major killer-pandemic; may have killed up to 5% of the global population between 1917 and 1923-a lot of "experts" did see "flu" as the major pandemic risk... However HIV/AIDS, CoViD, Mpox are all major risks-by now- and NOT "a type of flu"... https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/bacterial-pneumonia-caused-most-deaths-1918-influenza-pandemic or https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/bacterial-pneumonia-caused-most-deaths-1918-influenza-pandemic ; The majority of deaths during the influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 were not caused by the influenza virus acting alone, report researchers from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. Instead, most victims succumbed to bacterial pneumonia following influenza virus infection. The pneumonia was caused when bacteria that normally inhabit the nose and throat invaded the lungs along a pathway created when the virus destroyed the cells that line the bronchial tubes and lungs. DJ; In the last few years we did see (non-sense) "discussions" on hospital cases/deaths "with" or "from" CoViD....Point is CoViD did play a role...Like with the H1N1 "Spanish Flu" bacterial pneumonia did get a "chance to kill"....

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 23 Jun 2024 Status: Offline Points: 554	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jul 2024 at 12:55am
	Pandemics are NEVER isolated events ! CoViD-19 may even have some links with HIV/AIDS...a person may have catched a corona-virus that could develop into CoViD(19)... It is unclear how CoViD-19 started...a claim of a "Wuhan lab-leak" (gain of function study gone wrong) is -in my non-expert view- AND in the view of WHO experts !- not that likely... There are (lots of) stories CoViD did show up early in 2019...far before the "vet market spread" in Wuhan. Another "idea" could be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#2018%E2%80%932020_African_swine_fever_panzootic or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus#2018%E2%80%932020_African_swine_fever_panzootic did give a corona-virus-as co-infection- a chance...In that scenario CoViD may have jumped from pigs into humans...Simply being missed-because the idea was the pigs "only" had African Swine Fever (ASF)...so no need to look further... It reminds me of H5N1 in US cattle...very likely the virus spreading from cattle into farm cats and farm workers...In NL two dogs did catch Blue Tongue Virus (BTV)...it was not known dogs could catch-and die-from it...BTV was widespread in NL sheep...(the idea was it would show up again this year...but it did not !)

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 23 Jun 2024 Status: Offline Points: 554	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jul 2024 at 1:07am
	July 2024 already shows alarming rates of CoViD...here in NL waste water samples indicate wave 14 of covid...However-in NL-we did see extreme high-by far the highest-waste water viral load at the end of 2023...and it did NOT bring that much more (serious) CoViD cases... For now Mpox clade 1B seems to be contained in Africa...over 20,000 cases-over 1,000 deaths...most in children. Very likely contact/droplet spread...maybe even "aerosol" spread... The difference between "droplet" and "aerosol" spread is with droplets-small viral parts (relative heavy) stay around an infected person. 6 feet-2 meters may be enough to offer a lot of protection... Aerosol spread does see (lighter) viral parts "all over the place"...Ventilation may lower the viral load. Masks/glasses (eye protection) may be needed if an infected person is spreading a "serious disease" via aerosols... H5N1 is another disease to watch-has several "clades/variants"...Case Fatality Ratio (CFR) is put high...but very likely a lot of H5N1 infections may be missed...Very likely H5N1 is "worse" then a "normal flu"...(killing between 400,000 and 600,000 people world wide each year) but-again- like with the Spanish Flu co-infections matter... "Flu-Rona" -a co-infection of CoViD with -a type of- flu may push up the CFR... So it would be welcome to test people further after finding CoViD or Flu...one disease does not rule out more diseases...CoViD is undermining immunity...so it is increasingly likely to bring other diseases...