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3 BILLION PEOPLE INFECTED with SARS-COV-2, in the last 12 months, who DON'T KNOW IT because they are ASYMPTOMATIC !!! A recent study involving 1,089 participants found that 52.9% were asymptomatic ...

link https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0311287 or https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0311287 ;

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A year after the start of the COVID-19 pandemic in Arkhangelsk, Northwest Russia, 59.7% 95% CI (56.7; 62.6) of the surveyed adult population aged 40–74 years had been infected by SARS-CoV-2. Symptomatic cases comprised 47.1% 95% CI (43.2; 51.0) of the total infected, and 8.6% 95% CI (6.6; 11.1) of those previously infected were hospitalized. Our findings indicated a high proportion of asymptomatic cases that remained undetected by the healthcare system. The asymptomatic COVID-19 cases were unaware that they had been infected and might have continued their usual activities spreading the infection to others. This could have resulted in the rapid COVID-19 transmission and unsuccessful disease control.

Since the asymptomatic COVID-19 patients are difficult to be diagnosed, a wider testing of high-risk populations should be performed regardless of symptoms to improve the control strategies. Combining different surveillance approaches could prevent future outbreaks by capturing silent infection spread.


DJ, So based on identified cases being a certain % the idea is there must be a realistic estimate on unidentified cases...translating that number to global cases-in humans...

DJ-I am not an expert-do not know what to think of this claim; however;
-Very likely lots of CoViD cases (certainly in 2024) go without any testing...
-Non-human cases may run in the "millions"

So -my non expert view- CoViD is 99% out of control...With some variants/reinfections resulting in more long term damage...

"Politics look the other way"...
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DJ, For latest realistic info in these days-on ANYTHING !!!!-I end up at twitter/X etc. 
The "media/politics" for sale have become a major part of the problem...(EU sticks to 1,5C temperature rise in the Azerbaijan climate bla-bla...lots of indications REAL temperature rise using the 1700-1750 baseline is 2,75C...so "we go for a 1950 baseline"....insanity !) 

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⚠️ BREAKING: COVID Hospitalizations Surge to Alarming Levels as New Variant XEC Rapidly Spreads Across the UK 🇬🇧 COVID hospitalizations in Britain have surged at an “alarming” rate following the emergence of a new variant, the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) warns.
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🚨🚨A study found that children who contracted COVID-19 have a 55% to 58% increased risk of developing type 2 diabetes within 6 months vs those with other respiratory infections. This highlights the health impacts of COVID-19 on children

DJ, CoViD is immunity damage. Flu-season started in the north part of the globe...so "Flu-Rona" with lots of hospital/healthcare spread will be a new normal....

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?time=2022-08-14..latest&country=USA~GBR~NLD or https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?time=2022-08-14..latest&country=USA~GBR~NLD ...excess deaths stay above the long term trend...Euromomo still showing 0-14 Y/O excess deaths above the 2020-2023 "pandemic" years...Those children -in general- are NOT vaccinated against CoViD...

DJ-In statistics people may die from hearth, lung, other problems-so a direct CoViD link may be missed by the way "statistics" work...

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Another week of more than 1000 new #COVID deaths!
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U.S. reports more than 1,000 new COVID deaths for the 9th week in a row - BNO tracker
DJ, Non-sterilizing vaccines-only as a "strategy" to get out of the CoViD-pandemic is just another disaster...We knew corona-virus disease in farm animals-for decades- often only could be controlled by killing/"culling" all the animals in the farm...

Somehow "we" -governments decided "living with a corona-virus" would "save the economy"...DJ-It is the same kind of insanity as "living with climate collapse" or "a winable nuclear war"...

Have we gone completely insane ? 
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Good deep dive into the recent paper by Nguyen et al about why we don't develop long-term antibody immunity to Covid from the mRNA vaccines (and from infection). Turns out the spike proteins in the virus are spaced in just such a way that antibodies can't crosslink and trigger the formation of long lived plasma cells in the bone marrow. There's hope that Novavax and future vaccines might overcome this, but will need more study. Bone marrow sampling is exceedingly painful and it's hard to get volunteers...
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🔥“The bad news is the failure of SARS2 mRNA vaccines themselves—with or without natural infections—to induce long-lived plasma cells (LLPCs) in the bone marrow/protective immunity." ➡️ Excellent commentary article on last months LLPC's study findings. https://science.org/content/article/missing-immune-cells-may-explain-why-covid-19-vaccine-protection-quickly-wanes
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https://x.com/KashPrime/status/1846710437124985092/photo/1 or https://x.com/KashPrime/status/1846710437124985092/photo/1 
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https://x.com/KashPrime/status/1846710437124985092/photo/2 or https://x.com/KashPrime/status/1846710437124985092/photo/2 

DJ, Corona-virus infections are NOT new ! In farming they were a known risk for over 90 years...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus_diseases or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus_diseases ;
Coronavirus diseases are caused by viruses in the coronavirus subfamily, a group of related RNA viruses that cause diseases in mammals and birds. In humans and birds, the group of viruses cause respiratory tract infections that can range from mild to lethal. Mild illnesses in humans include some cases of the common cold (which is also caused by other viruses, predominantly rhinoviruses),[1][2] while more lethal varieties can cause SARSMERS and COVID-19.[3][4] As of 2021, 45 species are registered as coronaviruses,[5] whilst 11 diseases have been identified, as listed below.
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The first coronavirus disease was discovered in the late 1920s. Coronaviridae were generally of limited interest to the wider scientific community, until the appearance of SARS. Human coronaviruses were discovered in the 1960s, through a variety of experiments in the United States and the United Kingdom.[12] A common origin in human coronaviruses is bats.[13]

DJ, Untill SARS-1 showed up in 2003 corona-virusses were seen as "very limited risk" for humans...Since there are MILLIONS of possible health risks we were not ready for SARS-1...still managed to contain it....by taking enough action. From testing to stop travel...

The "bad news" for SARS-2/CoViD-19 is bad choices were made then-still are made now...

DJ-History repeats itself because people do not want to learn from it, face it....In many countries even today "history" is used for "nation-building", propaganda...NOT for learning from previous mistakes...
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DJ, Some countries returning to masks (and eye protection ? shields ?) in care settings to stop the spread of diseases like CoViD..Also in a lot of countries trade unions try to get some income/compensation for workers with long CoViD...A lot of them had NO protection in the early days of CoViD however can not prove their present Long CoViD is linked to the work they did in 2020...

Maybe a warning; IF YOU get infected at the job you may end up in poverty...By now it should be clear "politics" save "economies" NOT workers !

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Here are the leading countries reporting XEC.*. Germany, Italy and Spain have all reached levels around 40%, noting that data from Germany is lagging the other countries shown.

DJ, NL would now be at 30% for XEC variants...going up...Worse may be more coinfection with flu-types/ "Flu-Rona"....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus ;
Coronaviruses constitute the subfamily Orthocoronavirinae, in the family Coronaviridae, order Nidovirales and realm Riboviria.[3][4] They are enveloped viruses with a positive-sense single-stranded RNA genome and a nucleocapsid of helical symmetry.[5] The genome size of coronaviruses ranges from approximately 26 to 32 kilobases, one of the largest among RNA viruses.[6] They have characteristic club-shaped spikes that project from their surface, which in electron micrographs create an image reminiscent of the stellar corona, from which their name derives.[7]

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomyxoviridae or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomyxoviridae ;
Orthomyxoviridae (from Ancient Greek ὀρθός (orthós) 'straight' and μύξα (mýxa) 'mucus')[1] is a family of negative-sense RNA viruses. It includes seven generaAlphainfluenzavirusBetainfluenzavirusGammainfluenzavirusDeltainfluenzavirusIsavirusThogotovirus, and Quaranjavirus. The first four genera contain viruses that cause influenza in birds (see also avian influenza) and mammals, including humans. Isaviruses infect salmon; the thogotoviruses are arboviruses, infecting vertebrates and invertebrates (such as ticks and mosquitoes).[2][3][4] The Quaranjaviruses are also arboviruses, infecting vertebrates (birds) and invertebrates (arthropods).
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Viruses of the family Orthomyxoviridae contain six to eight segments of linear negative-sense single stranded RNA. They have a total genome length that is 10,000–14,600 nucleotides (nt).[7] The influenza A genome, for instance, has eight pieces of segmented negative-sense RNA (13.5 kilobases total).[8]

DJ, the "longer" the viral genome the higher the chance for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_recombination or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_recombination ;
Genetic recombination (also known as genetic reshuffling) is the exchange of genetic material between different organisms which leads to production of offspring with combinations of traits that differ from those found in either parent

DJ, positive/negative sense means the way the RNA-string is twisted...CoViD and Flu have different "twist"....but will that limit the chance of the two RNA-strings getting "mixed" ? 

A recombination would result in "FluRona" as a disease on itself...with its own RNA-virus...Such a "mix" may start in ANY host catching both flu and CoViD...and there are lots of animal species that may be able to catch both viruses...

"FluRona" as its "own" disease may develop as a cold or a killer....
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5) ...the early low-normal decline group. These findings demonstrate that COVID-19 can have lasting negative impacts on bone health. It highlights the need to closely monitor bone density in COVID-19 patients and take steps to manage bone health, especially for high-risk groups
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We'd like to keep things positive today. Does anyone have any links to research mentioning parts of the body CANNOT be infected by SARS-CoV-2?
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UK: Mayor calls for firefighters to respond to medical emergencies "Andy Burnham has called for firefighters to respond to medical emergencies to help overstretched paramedics."
link https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/24649070.burnham-calls-firefighters-respond-medical-emergencies/ or https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/24649070.burnham-calls-firefighters-respond-medical-emergencies/ ;

Andy Burnham has called for firefighters to respond to medical emergencies to help overstretched paramedics.

Greater Manchester Fire and Rescue service vehicles carrying defibrillators could see patients attended to "more quickly" than North West Ambulance Service personnel when they’re under severe pressure and "help save lives", the mayor argued. 

In a letter penned to the chief fire officer on Thursday, October 10, Mr Burnham asked the service to help "take the pressure off the shoulders of the NHS".

Due to growing queues at A&E, ambulance wait times have soared over the last few years, putting patients at risk. 

DJ, Like news on flooding/extreme weather often no longer is linked by "media-for-sale" to climate collapse also hospital/care "under pressure" and "excess deaths" are -in the media- de-linked from ongoing CoViD pandemic...

DJ-Will it get worse ? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-CoViD does damage ALL over the body
-LONG term damage...
-CoViD "may never leave" its host
-CoViD is found in lots of species, hundreds of billions of hosts...
-CoViD damages immunity (some claim as a sort of HIV-like level) opening the door to all kinds of diseases...

DJ-My non expert-grim-view; CoViD itself may have over a million (sub)variants...Vaccination/anti-virals may be losing effectiveness quite fast...

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UK: Berkshire hospital service 'under pressure' ahead of winter "Practices are under similar pressures to hospital... I think demand for healthcare services are high across any sector you are in."

DJ, and it is only october...
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https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/10/nature-study-on-sentinel-hosts-for.html or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2024/10/nature-study-on-sentinel-hosts-for.html ;

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Until the SARS virus began its limited world tour in 2002-2003, (see SARS and Remembrance), only four coronaviruses (Alpha coronaviruses 229E and NL63, and Beta coronaviruses OC43 & HKU1) were known to infect humans.

These human coronaviruses were thought to produce only mild upper respiratory illnesses and were believed responsible for 15%-30% of the `common colds’ around the world, Only rarely did they migrate to the lower respiratory tract (cite).
 
But SARS was followed by the emergence of MERS-CoV on the Arabian Peninsula in 2012, where it sparked numerous large and deadly nosocomial outbreaks, and even spread (via infected travelers) to other countries.  

As of today > 2,600 MERS-related human infections, and 943 associated deaths have been reported, although both are likely under-counts. 

SARS-CoV-2, which emerged as COVID-19 five years ago, removed all doubts as to the ability of coronaviruses to spark a major pandemic.  And while COVID is exquisitely adapted to humans, it has also shown an unexpectedly broad host range, and has become entrenched in many non-human species. 

The concern is - given how rapidly COVID mutates and evolves in humans - it may be undergoing similar parallel evolution in a number of other mammalian species.  And at some point, a radically mutated SARS-CoV-2 virus could spill back into the human population. 

It is not an idle concern.  

In late 2020, Danish authorities announced the spillover of COVID into millions of susceptible farmed mink, and the discovery of several `mink specific' mutations in the virus (see Denmark Orders Culling Of All Mink Following Discovery Of Mutated Coronavirus), which subsequently jumped back into the human population.

Although this `mink variant' was quickly overtaken by the Alpha variant - and no longer circulates - over the summer of 2021 we learned from an SSI Study: Denmark's Cluster-5 mink Variant Had Increased Antibody Resistance

This served as a `proof of concept' that - if allowed to spread in a non-human species - SARS-CoV-2 could evolve into something `new' and potentially more dangerous, and spillover into the human population with unpredictable results. 

We saw a more recent example of this kind of parallel evolution last year in Eurosurveillance: Cryptic SARS-CoV-2 Lineage Identified on Two Mink Farms In Poland, when we looked at the detection of two closely related COVID variants that turned up - 3 months apart - at two mink farms in Poland.

Cats and dogs - because they often live in close proximity to humans - are not only at high risk of exposure (see EID Journal: SARS-CoV-2 Seroprevalence Studies in Pets, Spainthey may also serve as a conduit for the virus to infect other peridomestic animals.  

All of which brings us to a new report - published last week in Nature - that identifies a short-list of non-human hosts (dogs, cats, mink, deer, etc.) which should be continually monitored for SARS-CoV-2 mutations and specific sites within the Spike Protein that need to be monitored for signs of novel animal variants. 

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While we grudgingly accept that influenza pandemics occur several times a century, and that most have a zoonotic origin, there seems to be a widespread belief that our coronavirus pandemic was somehow a rare - one off - event, that is unlikely to be repeated. 

This despite two other brushes with `COVID-like' epidemics in the past 20 years (SARS & MERS), and the fact that new emerging coronavirus threats continue to be discovered (see J. Med. Virology: Potential Cross-Species Transmission Risks of Emerging Swine Enteric Coronavirus to Human Beings).

The reality is that coronaviruses are highly mutable, and have the potential to recombine into new variants, which raises concerns over the co-circulation of SARS-CoV-2 along with MERS-CoV, and other coronaviruses (see Nature: CoV Recombination Potential & The Need For the Development of Pan-CoV Vaccines).

Add in the concurrent circulation and evolution of SARS-CoV-2 in dozens of other non-human species, and you have ample opportunities for new threats to emerge. 

The uncomfortable truth is we now live in a new age where the the number, frequency, and intensity of pandemics are only expected to increase over the next few decades.

DJ, Do some "corona-cold-viruses" have a link to ME-CFS ? 

African Swine Fever was a worldwide crisis killing millions of pigs. Could a "pre-CoViD-19"corona-virus have been spreading in (infected with ASF) pigs-jumped to humans ? (In China, Africa ? NL ?)...

A human weakness may be detecting one disease may stop looking for other co-infections...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-76506-7 or https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-76506-7 on the corona timeline...
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That’s a remarkable statistic. In layman’s terms, if you have already had COVID once, you are more than 5x more likely to get COVID again than someone is to be infected the first time. And guess what? Your odds get even worse with every subsequent infection.
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How can these people look in the mirror? If you had covid-19, the Hazard Ratio for another covid 19 infection is 5.65! If you had covid-19, your risk of TBC is 91% higher, etc... There is no benefit of being infected with covid-19, just like there is no benefit of getting cholera, typhus through water or salmonella through food. You only will benefit from clean air, clean water and healthy food. https://medium.com/@carlvank/impa
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Dr. Bonnie Henry just now: "If you've had covid recently, you've had a boost to your immunity. So that's a good thing." No, Dr. Henry, getting covid is NEVER a good thing. It won't help or improve your immune system. Your immune system isn't a muscle, and covid isn't the flu.

DJ, Very likely more than half the global human population has had CoViD at least once...If catching CoViD would result in creating natural immunity we would be at the end of a CoViD-pandemic...We are NOT ! 

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/sars-cov-2-xec-variant-shows-enhanced-immune-evasion-through-ntd-glycosylation or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/sars-cov-2-xec-variant-shows-enhanced-immune-evasion-through-ntd-glycosylation ....

DJ-Corona virusses in (farm) animals are well known-only controlled by killing all the farm animals...Part of human colds are corona-virus linked. This however does not mean ALL corona virus infections in humans would be "mild colds"...Part of the cold-corona-virus infections may have had links with ME-CFS/ME/CFIDS (Chronic Fatigue Immunity Dysfunction Syndrome-"Long CoViD")..."but we did not want to know"....

CoViD-19 in the last 5 years may have killed over 40 million people...Only the Spanish Flu/H1N1 between 1917 and 1923 may have killed more people...HIV-AIDS did kill a number of people close -tens of millions-but over decades...

IF CoViD results in -in some cases- HIV-like immunity problems then we are only AT THE START of a global health crisis-NOT at the end of it...Excess deaths remain high-certainly in unvaccinated (age)groups...

Non-sterilizing vaccines may limit disease...however may result in the virus finding ways around vaccine-immunity so those vaccines may prolong a pandemic...(and the vaccines itself-only part of the mRNA-worldwide-do carry risks themselves...Like any other medical intervention.)

With winter on its way new CoViD-variants-possibly co-spreading with types of flu- may bring the pandemic to a new peak...
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https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-recombinant-sars-cov-2-variant-xek-likely-to-be-the-next-predominant-strain-by-late-winter-superseding-xec or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-recombinant-sars-cov-2-variant-xek-likely-to-be-the-next-predominant-strain-by-late-winter-superseding-xec 
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The chance of catching something in hospital seems off the scale. At a time of so much pressure on an already-pressured system, we should be trying much harder to reduce risk of nosocomial infections. 🧵
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So to answer the original question at the top of this thread: What is my best guess re: Covid prevalence right now? The data is extremely limited but I would not be surprised if Covid prevalence (as of 12 Oct) was somewhere in this orange band, ie. between 3-5%… …and rising.

DJ, So 3 to 5% of UK population now infected by CoViD-19...

However there is hardly any testing-even in hospitals...So even there if people did not have CoViD they may get CoViD...

Another long term trend could be vaccines offering less and less protection-with variants getting ever better in finding ways around it. 

Co-infection with flu (and only testing for one infection-so missing the other one) may further worsen the burden on healthcare/society...

"Politics" going for crazy avoidable wars waste the trillions needed to get out of the health-linked to climate-crises...

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https://nltimes.nl/2024/11/01/first-long-covid-patients-now-heading-new-specialized-centers  or https://nltimes.nl/2024/11/01/first-long-covid-patients-now-heading-new-specialized-centers ;

Starting Friday, patients with long-term symptoms of Covid-19 can be referred by their doctors to one of the country’s first three Post-Covid specialist centers. These opened in the academic hospitals Maastricht UMC+, Amsterdam UMC, and Erasmus MC in Rotterdam.

These centers will assess and treat patients but may not have capacity for everyone. According to a spokesperson, approximately 1,000 patients can be seen by January, though around 90,000 adults are estimated to suffer from Post-Covid, also known as Long Covid. Eventually, all university medical centers are expected to open their own specialist centers.

It may take a few days before the first patients are admitted. Children with Long Covid symptoms can also be referred to Maastricht, Amsterdam, and Utrecht, but they may need to wait for access to treatment. Plans are still underway to expedite this. The exact number of children suffering from Post-Covid remains unknown but is believed to be much lower than for adults.

Common symptoms include fatigue, shortness of breath, memory and concentration issues, muscle pain, and heart palpitations. To qualify, adults must have had symptoms for at least a year, show significant fatigue, and preferably have tried therapies like physical or occupational therapy. Children can be referred after six months of symptoms.

The centers will also work with the Post-Covid Network Netherlands (PCNN) to collect data and conduct research on the chronic condition. Specialists plan to share findings with other health providers to create standardized treatments across the country. The centers’ research will not only address care but will also aim to uncover the physiological factors behind Long Covid.

One such finding has already provided valuable insight into the physical origins of fatigue in Long Covid patients. Researchers at Amsterdam UMC and Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam recently identified abnormalities in the muscle tissue of these patients, particularly at the cellular level.

“At the cellular level, we observed that the mitochondria—the cell’s ‘energy factories’—were functioning less effectively and producing less energy,” said Professor Michèle van Vugt, a lead researcher. “The cause of the fatigue is genuinely biological. Muscles require energy to move, and this discovery allows us to explore effective treatments for long COVID patients.


and https://nltimes.nl/2024/10/31/nearly-10000-long-covid-patients-netherlands-unable-work or https://nltimes.nl/2024/10/31/nearly-10000-long-covid-patients-netherlands-unable-work ; Nearly 10,000 Long Covid patients in the Netherlands have been declared fully or partially incapacitated for work. At the end of August, benefits agency UWV paid out occupational disability (WIA) benefits to 9,746 people due to Long Covid, also called post-Covid syndrome, the Volksrkant reports.

Another 1,246 people received WIA benefits with Long Covid as the secondary diagnosis, meaning that they are unable to work due to symptoms from the syndrome, combined with another illness. WIA benefits are provided to employees who have been unable or barely able to work due to illness for two years or longer.

The WIA benefits for Long Covid patients cost the treasury at least 200 million euros per year, insurance physician and lawyer Jim Faas calculated for the newspaper. The costs are structural. Long Covid doesn’t have a cure yet.

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The disability benefit figures show how big and how invisible the Long Covid problem is, former GP Alfons Olde Loohuis of C-support, the organization that supports patients with long-term symptoms after a coronavirus infection, told the newspaper. “I know young people who have been in bed for four years. They do not feel heard and not seen. They have an elusive disease for which doctors do not yet have a solution.”

Around 32,000 patients are currently registered with C-support and over 300 new patients register every month, Olde Loohuis said. The most dramatic cases date from the first wave of coronavirus infections, before vaccinations, he said. But people are still getting Long Covid, often after a mild infection.


DJ, Experts claim CoViD by now is "mild" ignoring both Long CoViD (in part hard to monitor) and excess deaths https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?country=USA~GBR~NLD or https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?country=USA~GBR~NLD August 18 NL excess deaths at 17%, UK 9%, US 8%...

CoViD causing a lot of indirect deaths...
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Another insightful🧵 on Excess Deaths from : UK! "This contradicts the prevailing government and media narrative, accepted by most in the community, that the pandemic is over and life has returned to normal." Futhermore👇 "It's(🧵) a stark illustration of the ongoing failure of public health in the UK (as elsewhere) to stand up to politicians and act in the interests of the public in their care." #Belgium

DJ, CoViD does damage all over the body...so people may die from hearth, brain, kidney problems, cancer...if you fail to link the increase of excess deaths to CoViD infections you end up with "bad statistics"...

A lot of Long CoViD patients end up in poverty...THEY pay a bill for bad politics...THEY are poor because "uni-parties" save their rich donors...

Politics-for-sale "market economy" CANnot end the pandemic, climate collapse because the basic system is causing the problem...A snake eating its own tail...

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UK: Babies under one year old account for 64% of all childhood hospital admissions with Covid "Covid is almost as bad for babies now as it was in the early days of the pandemic,"

DJ, excess deaths in 0-14 y/o in 2024 is even higher than previous "pandemic" years...Excess deaths in unvaccinated groups are far higher than in vaccinated groups...STILL fools keep spreading insanity like "vaccines kill"...

Non-sterilizing vaccines will NOT get us out of a pandemic...Vaccine/healthcare should be non-profit-because healthcare is already very high cost...and a country has to keep strategic services under national control (not sell it to foreign investors going for maximum profits...)

By now new CoViD variants may evade more and more vaccine-immunity...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement has to be a growing risk...

Every new CoViD infection does increase risks for Long CoViD/organ damage...CoViD is NOT mild !!!

But-just like with climate collapse-the steps needed to stop it are "very drastic"...
-decrease/stop long distance travel
-decrease/stop meat production (CoViD may be in hundreds of mammal-species...)
-increase testing/sequencing (waste water)

Take the risks serious ! It may be a human-survival story..."saving the economy" only indicating you fail to see the risks pandemics, climate collapse is bringing...

Jill Stein/Green Party in the US may be more realistic but has as good as no chance in the US election"fraud"...The "uni-party" always wins...trump or harris...One may claim biden in many ways did an even worse job then trump on climate, healthcare-pandemics...biden did bring the world close to World War Three...trump may go for an even worse war with China (and Iran)....

Change the underlying system if you want to stop pandemics...!
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“They wouldn’t let Covid spread if it was THAT bad” It took authorities FIVE YEARS to be honest about HIV & only because they couldn’t hide it anymore. See also tobacco, asbestos, lead... Governments don’t give a sh*t about you. They only care about money & power.

DJ, CoViD results in Long CoViD-if not after a first infection then after a following infection. In general WE ALL !!! end up with Corona-virus in our body hiding in organs-getting active again in a "weak" moment (stress, catching flu, old age...). 

Immunity damage by now is clear...the level of immunity damage may differ-some experts claim CoViD is causing HIV-like damage...(See HIV-AIDS...)

Also there is NO SPOT in a host where CoViD can NOT do damage...It may be spreading in hundreds of species-so over 100 billion+ hosts...not only the 8,2 billion human hosts...

It will more-and-more co-infect with (lots of)  other diseases since CoViD damages/weakens immunity so-since there are BILLIONS OF HOSTS !!!!- other diseases also get so much more chance...

Utter stupidity went for "living with the virus/saving the economy"....Corona-virus in farm animals-for almost a hundred years !!!!! only could be controlled by killing all the possibly infected farm animals...

Going for non-sterilizing vaccines may have limited the damage after infection-it could not get us out of the CoViD pandemic ! 

As a strategy Non Pharma Interventions would have worked better...at lower costs (so less profits for Big Pharma-political donors...)...Masks/eye protection, work/study from home, travel restrictions...

DJ-"Politics" seems unable to have a longer term perspective...Like in climate, also pandemics NEED a long term strategy...


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